100% VG -- how to

[Stonemull]

After some consideration, I have decided that flash point may make a difference but exactly the opposite to what kreator has decided.
since the flash point is the basically the point at which the liquid becomes a vapour and leaves the hot surface, its then going to cool down .. no part of 'flash point' involves it turning into something else, its not reacting .. its simply leaving the heat source ..
flammable liquids need a way to leave the surface .. and THEN another heat source to ignite them that is a great deal above the flash point .. perhaps a poorly wound atty could do it if the heater gets very hot, yet to see a flame on an atty though even with shorted genesis devices with bright orange heater.

 

[Kreator8]

I will point out again you do not need flame to burn something. You can burn your dinner, and never have it on fire. Let me show you what happened to my friend's atomizer when he turned it up to 6 volts. A full wet cartomizer recently filled and was vaping good at 3.2 volts. I told him not to, but he wanted to see, and the duel coil 3.0 ohm device blew one coil. He got a nasty hit, but then it still vaped on the one coil. Since it now had a poor taste he agreed to cut it open to see what happened. It seems the coil got hot enough to melt the tube "wicking" material around it and burn some of the wicking fabric as well before popping the connection of the coil itself. Since the coil was surrounded by juice I would also have to be concerned if any juice was burned as well. Remember vaporizing in an enclosed space is not the same as doing it in the open where in can spread and dilute into the air. The coil is enclosed. If there was a small flash of flame or not we cannot tell from the outside. But I present this photo of the inside after the fact. It does look burned, and the one tube is destroyed. This was a brand new cartomizer filled and tested at 3.2 volts, and working fine with a 50/50 mix. Was it the 6 volts? Was it defective? Who knows but it is burned. Point made. Note the small part of the burned away tube left over on the left of the photo from coil number one, and the good tube still O.K. on the right from coil number 2

 

[ChainVapitis]

Hi Everyone -

Just wanted to thank everyone for all the interesting info & all the effort put into it. Learned a lot .

 

[Ralikar]

Acrolein - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Yes, every time you burn some oil on the grill you inhale "deadly" acrolein! OMG! You burned that hamburger OMG!
Such a silly pseudo-scientific VG is so awesome and PG can kill you thread. The toxicity is also based on eating it in food.

RUN! MOM IS BURNING THE STEAK! OUT OF THE HOUSE CHILDREN!!!

DID YOU GET FLUFFY?

AHHHH....

Makes me happy my WL stuff is coming tomorrow--I'm doing all PG for better flavor. AHHH!

This thread is known as "panic science" or "fake science" to support your VG is awesome thesis. The odds of a high volt mod blowing off your hand>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Acrolein death. So if VG leads to hands blowing off on high volt mods, then it is far more dangerous than PG.

Let me clue you all in: you are sucking burning stuff into your mouth and throat! If you are a health nut, vaping may not for you. If you worry smelling a burning steak may kill you, vaping may not be for you... You cannot vape broccoli... You cannot vape tofu...

 

[Kreator8]

A bit over board my friend. I am sure mom can get some cooking lessons. A correctly cooked steak is never over done, and a correctly vaped juice does taste better. You can drive your car the speed limit or speed and get a ticket. In the end it's is all up to you. Most of users here are being very serious about understanding this new technology, but none the less thank you for your input. Enjoy your PG.

Acrolein - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Yes, every time you burn some oil on the grill you inhale "deadly" acrolein! OMG! You burned that hamburger OMG!
Such a silly pseudo-scientific VG is so awesome and PG can kill you thread. The toxicity is also based on eating it in food.

RUN! MOM IS BURNING THE STEAK! OUT OF THE HOUSE CHILDREN!!!

DID YOU GET FLUFFY?

AHHHH....

Makes me happy my WL stuff is coming tomorrow--I'm doing all PG for better flavor. AHHH!

Let me clue you all in: you are sucking burning stuff into your mouth and throat! If you are a health nut, vaping may not for you. If you worry smelling a burning steak may kill you, vaping may not be for you... You cannot vape broccoli... You cannot vape tofu...

 

[Adam the Aussie]

Forget about it.

 

[nodizil]

I used a dual punched carto and it seemed to work fine for me. I just switched to a Penelope atomizer which is like a tanked atomizer in my opinion. So far i have not tried 100% vg in it buti don't think it will be a problem.

 

[Kreator8]

Good call, two holes. Big holes are all you need for the 100%. I found 3 to 3.5 volts on a 2.0 ohm atomizer give a nice cloud, but all mods are not equal so you will have find your balance.

I used a dual punched carto and it seemed to work fine for me. I just switched to a Penelope atomizer which is like a tanked atomizer in my opinion. So far i have not tried 100% vg in it buti don't think it will be a problem.

 

[theoriginaljoey]

welcome-- I use only vg- and it can be used with a tank with no issues-- just remember every once in while the tank might lead-- usually caused by overusing the tank cartridge (it becomes loose after so many uses) . I have some videos on this- check out my website or go my youtube channel "thesmokenjoey" -- i like the joyetech 510 and ego models-- both can be used as tanks and also with regular cartridges--- thanks and good luck to you

 

[Hunny]

I agree VG is just better. Taste, vape, smooth, just real nice.

welcome-- I use only vg- and it can be used with a tank with no issues-- just remember every once in while the tank might lead-- usually caused by overusing the tank cartridge (it becomes loose after so many uses) . I have some videos on this- check out my website or go my youtube channel "thesmokenjoey" -- i like the joyetech 510 and ego models-- both can be used as tanks and also with regular cartridges--- thanks and good luck to you

 

[damthisisfun]

great thread - I am bookmarking this one for future reading.....right now - too many beers in my system....

 

[VStarGirl]

I now use 100% VG because PG makes me wheeze almost as bad as analogs did. I've had the best luck with Johnson Creeks Red Oak line. I've never needed to thin it. A few other 100% VG juices that I've gotten elsewhere have been really thick and just clogged up my stuff. Maybe I'll try them again but thin it a bit as suggested by several members. Thanks!

 

[VStarGirl]

I've had the BEST luck with Johnson Creeks Red Oak line of VG juices. Not too thick like some others I tried. Works fine in Clearomizers and tanks.

 

[InformationChef]

This is a really helpful thread for me, thanks everyone! I'm looking to focus on natural flavorings and see if 100% VG vapes are doable as a DIY "homebrewer" and this looks simple & approachable.

 

[Puppy]

I like VG .. PG taste bad. Tastes old.

 

[Racehorse]

If you are a health nut, vaping may not for you.You cannot vape broccoli... You cannot vape tofu...

while I don't disagree with what you said overall.......always do find it humorous when health nuts are characterized as eating broccoli and tofu. Or pine cone salads and bark sandwiches kinda stuff. Maybe I'm more "gourmet" than most people LOL

I don't know anything about the science that has ensued in this topic, but I started it just because I already know I have problems with PG (dentist gave me some mouthwash where it is first ingredient and my gums got irritated) so I just decided I probably shouldn't vape it since I have an "established" sensitivity to PG.

I personally do not think PG is bad or dangerous.

I also do not vape at high voltage. I wasn't a heavy smoker when I smoked analogs, and so I vape 3.2-3.7 volts.... I like delicate fruit flavors, which taste great at low voltages. I think I would fall down vaping at 6V or more

I''ll probably just stick with Johnson's Creek and Virgin Vapors, which I've had the most luck with. Tried a few other "organic" juice makers and it tears up my throat.

 

[Racehorse]

PS I don't know WHAT is wrong with my clearos. I took them off my batts last night, set them down on the counter.

Woke up this morning and they are both sitting "in a puddle." All the juice leaked out the bottom. TWO DIFFERENT KINDS OF CLEAROMIZERS!

 

[recidivus]

I know from reading you can't use tank because VG is really thick and sticky, right?

Wrong.

I'm currently vaping 100VG in prepunched cartos (2 holes). You can add a couple drops of distilled water to the mix to thin it out slightly. Don't over do it or you will end up flooding the carto, but you can easily empty the tank, blow through the carto to get most of it out. Add more VG to the less viscous mix and refill.

Make sure to do a couple quick primer puffs every 5 or so pulls in a row, check to see if there's a bubble or two that escapes the holes into tank (that means it's getting where it should).

If you're feeling adventurous you can dremel a slot into the carto also, though this is irreversible and if it's too big the carto goes in the bin. Most vendors now sell carto punches also, so you can add as many holes as you desire. Again, it's irreversible, so don't go too overboard.

Some juice vendors that sell 100%VG premixed also thin it out a bit before it ships. Heat steeping also helps thin it out. Put the bottle of juice in a ziplock, put the ziplock in a sink full of hot water (tap hot, not boiling hot), shake it every 30-60 minutes until the water is room temp.

In time all this becomes second nature. Buy an extra pack or two of cartos just in case and you'll be golden.

 

[LexxBug]

VG is the bomb!! I think PG sucks.

 

[Racehorse]

Wrong.

I'm currently vaping 100VG in prepunched cartos (2 holes). You can add a couple drops of distilled water to the mix to thin it out slightly. Don't over do it or you will end up flooding the carto, but you can easily empty the tank, blow through the carto to get most of it out. Add more VG to the less viscous mix and refill.

Make sure to do a couple quick primer puffs every 5 or so pulls in a row, check to see if there's a bubble or two that escapes the holes into tank (that means it's getting where it should).

If you're feeling adventurous you can dremel a slot into the carto also, though this is irreversible and if it's too big the carto goes in the bin. Most vendors now sell carto punches also, so you can add as many holes as you desire. Again, it's irreversible, so don't go too overboard.

Some juice vendors that sell 100%VG premixed also thin it out a bit before it ships. Heat steeping also helps thin it out. Put the bottle of juice in a ziplock, put the ziplock in a sink full of hot water (tap hot, not boiling hot), shake it every 30-60 minutes until the water is room temp.

In time all this becomes second nature. Buy an extra pack or two of cartos just in case and you'll be golden.

I think this could actually be a "sticky" as far as how to vape 100% VG. Perfectly explained, and accurate.


That said, between Boge-gate and polycarb tanks etching from liquids (and the fact that some of us have no interest in fiddling w/carto punching......I'm probably gonna switch gears and get vivi nova rebuildable and/or ideally, wait til vivi nova comes in polyethylene.