100mg NIC Accidents?

[vikassi]

Hello,

Spills and such are bound to happen, sometimes no matter how careful one is. Has anyone spilled any NIC on their fingers, hands, or any body part? If so, how much and what were the effects or what did you do to circumvent? I'm amazed when I see videos on youtube of DIY juice demonstrations and they're not wearing gloves or being "extra" careful. Just exactly how dangerous is 100mg NIC when "spilled" on your persons? Maybe a few drops on the skin?

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[dannyv45]

I've gotton 100mg NIC on my skin many times and wash it right off. I've never suffered any serious effects. It's only common sense. Would you let any household chemical linger on your skin for any long amount of time? Some may be more sensitive to it's effects but the worst I've herd was it giving a mild headache. If a large amount is spilled you would want to put on some rubber gloves and clean it up right away and keep it away from children and pets. I am one of those people that do not wear rubber or latex gloves when mixing and feel confident enough and excercise reasonable caution when handling NIC.

 

[vapero]

100mg is not as toxic as it is posted here if you get a little on your fingers or hands don't worry you don't need to go running to clean yourself, just wipe it up, finish your mix and then wash your hands, it has happened to me a few times and there is nothing to worry about just use a bit of caution, don't drink it and you will be good to go

 

[dannyv45]

100mg is not as toxic as it is posted here

+++++1 I totally agree. It's been overly hysterizised. Hey I think I just made up a new word

 

[Towmotor]

I had a syringe literally explode while I was depressing the plunger. Got 100mg all over my face and in the eyes. Washed my face immediately and flushed my eyes thoroughly, no ill effects.

 

[nyiddle]

Heard a story of a guy accidentally dumping a big bottle of 100mg nic all over his leg, and he did feel the effects. Took his pants off (lol) washed his leg down/got everything he could off himself, but.. Got very sweaty/dizzy/nauseous, had to spend about an hour with a cold, wet towel on his forehead. Said he really felt like he had to puke, but never ended up puking.

Pants-less.

 

[vexxis]

Heard a story of a guy accidentally dumping a big bottle of 100mg nic all over his leg, and he did feel the effects. Took his pants off (lol) washed his leg down/got everything he could off himself, but.. Got very sweaty/dizzy/nauseous, had to spend about an hour with a cold, wet towel on his forehead. Said he really felt like he had to puke, but never ended up puking.

Pants-less.

And he might have had the very same reaction to spilling water on himself if he believed it was liquid nicotine, the reaction may have been psychosomatic.

 

[Boletus]

The effect is relative to your nic tolerance. Someone that vapes a couple ml of <10 mg/ml a day would be at more risk than someone who chain smokes or vapes lots of 36 mg/ml. I can't say how much risk there is for people with low nic tolerance, and I am not sure anyone really knows, so the precautions are more proactive than absolute, IMO. And of course children would be at the most risk, so keeping it away from them is really not optional.

I have heard getting any amount in your eyes is painful, and I am willing to believe that rather than testing it.

 

[vikassi]

I had a syringe literally explode while I was depressing the plunger. Got 100mg all over my face and in the eyes. Washed my face immediately and flushed my eyes thoroughly, no ill effects.

damn .. That would freak me out .. the plastic exploded?

 

[Towmotor]

Not really. pressure build up caused the needle to explosivley detatch from the tank and the nic sprayed in all directions. Forgive my hyperbole in the previous post.

 

[Dana A]

I have gotten 18 mg in my eye and it hurt/burnt sooooooooo bad. I flushed and flushed and flushed. My eyelid was swelled up the next morning.

 

[eyerhere]

I had a syringe literally explode while I was depressing the plunger. Got 100mg all over my face and in the eyes. Washed my face immediately and flushed my eyes thoroughly, no ill effects.

Did you exceed that syringes amp limit?

 

[Double Helix]

As previously stated I wouldn't consider it to much of a hazard in small amounts if immediately washed. Transdermal adsorption isn't exactly a quick process. It's not like you're handling chemicals on either side of the pH scale. I had a small spill on my hand when I forgot to put gloves on once. There were no problems at all, but I also operate within 5 feet of a sink.

With that said, you can never be to safe when handling toxic chemicals especially when a pair of gloves costs less than 50 cents. I can understand if someone tried to skip out on wearing gloves, but I sure as hell wouldn't skip out on the eye protection. My eyes are worth more than it'd cost me to purchase a $5 pair of goggles.

 

[vapero]

As previously stated I wouldn't consider it to much of a hazard in small amounts if immediately washed. Transdermal adsorption isn't exactly a quick process. It's not like you're handling chemicals on either side of the pH scale. I had a small spill on my hand when I forgot to put gloves on once. There were no problems at all, but I also operate within 5 feet of a sink.

With that said, you can never be to safe when handling toxic chemicals especially when a pair of gloves costs less than 50 cents. I can understand if someone tried to skip out on wearing gloves, but I sure as hell wouldn't skip out on the eye protection. My eyes are worth more than it'd cost me to purchase a $5 pair of goggles.

my wife is against of me mixing, she says it looks like I'm running a me.. lab, so I assure here it is really safe and I make it look casual , imagine her face if he came in and saw me with gloves. so my only safety precautions are common sense

 

[Kurt]

VG and PG actually slow transdermal absorption of nic dramatically. That said, nitrile gloves are a good idea when first working with 100 mg/mL base.

A spill on the order of 100s of mL into a carpet is a big problem. There used to be a hazmat technician on ECF (Twisted Victor for all you elders) who claimed that if this were to happen, the carpet would have to be removed and incinerated.

The nic I am dispensing for DIY is always in these bottles, from SpecialtyBottles.com:

Specialty Bottle - Amber European Dropper Bottles

Usually the 50 mL size. The eurodropper insert allows syringe access and protects completely against spills if the bottle is open...and I have knocked them accidentally off my mixing table onto carpet several times, with no problems.

 

[nyiddle]

And he might have had the very same reaction to spilling water on himself if he believed it was liquid nicotine, the reaction may have been psychosomatic.

Alternatively, spilling ~5000mg of nicotine base on yourself does have some effect.

I can understand that the effects of nicotine are over-hyped. If you get some 24mg juice on your hands, you're not gonna start tripping balls. 100mg/ml nicotine, though, is quite dangerous. Dangerous enough that if you were to drink some, you'd potentially be taking a trip to the hospital. To suggest that 5000mg (50mL*100mg, though I'm not sure if it was a 50mL bottle) would have no effect is kind of uh.

Irresponsible? Silly? Optimistic? I don't know. It's something, though.

 

[Kurt]

Alternatively, spilling ~5000mg of nicotine base on yourself does have some effect.

I can understand that the effects of nicotine are over-hyped. If you get some 24mg juice on your hands, you're not gonna start tripping balls. 100mg/ml nicotine, though, is quite dangerous. Dangerous enough that if you were to drink some, you'd potentially be taking a trip to the hospital. To suggest that 5000mg (50mL*100mg, though I'm not sure if it was a 50mL bottle) would have no effect is kind of uh.

Irresponsible? Silly? Optimistic? I don't know. It's something, though.

Indeed! People need to remember that this is a public forum, open to all eyes. Best to advocate safety and caution, than be cavalier. A big spill on you will probably have a negative effect, depending on the permeability of whatever skin is affected. True the toxicity of nicotine has probably been over blown, but good dispensing habits are very important, especially for those new to DIY.

 

[Boletus]

my wife is against of me mixing, she says it looks like I'm running a me.. lab, so I assure here it is really safe and I make it look casual , imagine her face if he came in and saw me with gloves. so my only safety precautions are common sense

If you put your nic and destination bottle in an empty sink and do the mixing in there, a spill can be easily cleaned up and you can wash your hands instantly.

 

[Alien Traveler]

I have worked a lot with pretty nasty stuff, worse than 100% (read 1000 mg) nicotine, so I have some work habits preventing me (so far) from overturning bottles or spraying stuff around. As an alien I had torn away all carpet in my house (I do not like dust and dust mites) and replaced it with hardwood – so, in a case I spill my nicotine, I can easily remove it. And I wear glasses – no need for goggles. But, just to be on safer side, I still prepare my base solution (i.e. dilute 100 mg nicotine to 12 mg) in a sink. All other things I can do on my desk without any real troubles and precautions.

So, I 100% agree with boletus about usefulness of a sink.

 

[dannyv45]

I find the best way not to spill a bottle of NIC is to uncap, pour and recap right away and set it aside. Now I know it sounds like simple common sense and that is because it is. Now if you follow that procedure with every bottle of liquid that you use (even those little 10ml flavor viles) you would likely never spill a single drop.

I too am not perfect and have learned the hard way and luckly I've only accidentally tipped over a bottle of plain PG once but it was a mess to clean up. But if you get into the practice of recapping everything you use right after you use it these accidents can be avoided.