18490 alternative??

[mphsjeep]

Was wondering in any other size batt besides a 18490 will fit/work in a standard size provari with the stock cap? I have some credit from a vendor that seems to carry every size but 18490 Thanks!!!!

 

[Riverboat]

Was wondering in any other size batt besides a 18490 will fit/work in a standard size provari with the stock cap? I have some credit from a vendor that seems to carry every size but 18490 Thanks!!!!

No..................... buy good ones... AW or the like

 

[kiba]

If you dont use aw imr's you will void your warranty, its just not worth it when 18490's go for $8.99 to risk your warranty, if you want to get them from provape (i actually add one to my order whenever i get something from them) theyre still really cheap, around ~$10 bucks i beleive. Plus its just not safe to use an untrustworthy batt, Its like that guy who was using radio shack batts and they blew up in his face and exploded his teeth out of his head.


• sent from a dumb iphone so please excuse errors/mishaps

 

[zoiDman]

Was wondering in any other size batt besides a 18490 will fit/work in a standard size provari with the stock cap? I have some credit from a vendor that seems to carry every size but 18490 Thanks!!!!

It all Depends on how many Amps you are going to draw from the Battery.

I have an AW 18500 IC in rotation with 2 other AW 18490 IMR's and there is No Difference. Except that the AW 18500 IC has More mAh so it lasts longer between charges.

But... I don't draw a lot of Amps with the Volts/Ohms I vape at.

 

[mphsjeep]

Thats what I found...will get some 18500s. Im rarely above 3.3 with my rebuildables...thanks!!!

 

[zoiDman]

Thats what I found...will get some 18500s. Im rarely above 3.3 with my rebuildables...thanks!!!

Hold on.

It isn't just about Volts. What about the Ohms?

There kinda Locked up in a Dance when it comes to Amps.

 

[mphsjeep]

And this is where I get confused. My attys are measuring 1.1 Ohms so im vaping at 3.3V. This is what I am planning on getting when they are back in stock:
IMR 18500, LiMn 1100mAh Battery

The one review is saying it works, thoughts?

 

[vsummer1]

I would use those in my other PV's with no problems though not in my Provari as I wouldn't want to void a warranty for a few dollars in savings. They are the same as the AW's for specs though.

 

[zoiDman]

And this is where I get confused. My attys are measuring 1.1 Ohms so im vaping at 3.3V. This is what I am planning on getting when they are back in stock:
IMR 18500, LiMn 1100mAh Battery

The one review is saying it works, thoughts?

I think you will find that Amps is Equal to Volts Divided by Ohms.

So Amps = 3.3/1.1 => 3 Amps. That is Actually a Lot of Amps to draw from Many Batteries.

To know if a Battery can Handle 3 Amp draw you have to know what the "C" Rating is for a given Battery. Here's a Link that tells you how to do just that.

How To Find Your Lipo-Battery’s Maximum Constant Amp Draw

Unfortunately, the batteries you listed don't have a C Rating so there is no way to tell if they can Handle 3 Amps or Not.

 

[mphsjeep]

Good points.....never thought about the warranty

 

[mphsjeep]

I think you will find that Amps is Equal to Volts Divided by Ohms.

So Amps = 3.3/1.1 => 3 Amps. That is Actually a Lot of Amps to draw from Many Batteries.

To know if a Battery can Handle 3 Amp draw you have to know what the "C" Rating is for a given Battery. Here's a Link that tells you how to do just that.

How To Find Your Lipo-Battery’s Maximum Constant Amp Draw

Unfortunately, the batteries you listed don't have a C Rating so there is no way to tell if they can Handle 3 Amps or Not.

At work but will dive into this tonight......and im sure will have questions

 

[zoiDman]

At work but will dive into this tonight......and im sure will have questions

No problem.

It can be somewhat Confusing. Let it sink in and post your question when you get some free time.

 

[mphsjeep]

Thanks!!! Im also in the coop for a couple of the variable volt/watt mods and honestly have no idea what/why/how to do anything with a watt setting. Is it so I can just adjust directly to that "sweet spot" directly? I guess its time to get all this down

 

[zoiDman]

Thanks!!! Im also in the coop for a couple of the variable volt/watt mods and honestly have no idea what/why/how to do anything with a watt setting. Is it so I can just adjust directly to that "sweet spot" directly? I guess its time to get all this down

Maybe this would help with te Watts.

When you go to buy a Light Bulb, the Higher the Watts, the Brighter the Bulb, Right. And a Brighter Bulb means its running Hotter.

This is Basicaly what is going on with a Carto or Atty.

Watts are calculated by taking the Voltage (Volts) Squared and then Dividing it by the Resistance (Ohms).

Watts = (Volts x Volts) / Ohms

If the Volts remain the same, the only way to make the Watts go Up or Down is to Change the Ohms.

Since the Ohms are on the Bottom of the Fraction, (Volts x Volts) / Ohms, making the Ohms Smaller makes the Watts Bigger. And when the Ohms are made Larger, they go into the top of the , (Volts x Volts) / Ohms, less times, Hence the Watts are Less.

So just remember that if you Lower the Ohms of what you are using right now, say from 2.8 ohms to 2.4 ohms, the result will be the Carto/Atty Runs Hotter. Raise the Ohms and the Carto/Atty runs Cooler. A Carto or Atty that runs Hotter will make More Vapor. And it will make More Flavor to a Point. But if it runs Too Hot, then you e-Liquids start to taste Burnt.

Most people Experiment by buying Cartos/Attys of Lower and Lower Ohms until they Reach the Point where there e-Liquids taste Burnt. There is no Rule that fits Everyone as to what Ohms are Right. It's all based on what the Individual Likes and what their e-Liquids can Handle.

I'll tell you one thing that might be a Problem for you in that Mod Co-Op.

And that is the 3 amps that you draw when you use 1.1 ohms @ 3.3 volts. Many Mods can't Handle 3 Amps.

You might want to post a Question in the Co-Op thread and ask if it can.

 

[mphsjeep]

Have 5 amps on both im looking at:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ble-wattage-tube-mod-1-x18650-1-2-x18350.html

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...nless-steel-zmax-tuned-display-vrms-wrms.html

 

[zoiDman]

Have 5 amps on both im looking at:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ble-wattage-tube-mod-1-x18650-1-2-x18350.html

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...nless-steel-zmax-tuned-display-vrms-wrms.html

5 Amps will work for just about Any Situation.

 

[mphsjeep]

Just popin in real quick, kids are going crazy tonight...mapvapes says:
"The IMR 18500, LiMn 1100mAh Battery has a 10c rating."
Have not had a chance to read the link.
What amp are the standard cheapo lavatubes. I just got two mailed today and now learning about this made me skeptical but they are pushing my Chids just fine.

 

[mphsjeep]

Ok finally had some time. So using the formula(thanks for that, I fly RC helis and am sure that page will be used again), The mad vapes batt is 10C so thats 11 Amps Max Constant. So technically the batt can handle 3 amps.

Im getting the math. What I don't fully get is having a mod that is variable watts and volts. Help me here. If I have a VV mod, I can control the watts/vapor. So what would the point be for having these new mods that can directly control watts?

 

[zoiDman]

Ok finally had some time. So using the formula(thanks for that, I fly RC helis and am sure that page will be used again), The mad vapes batt is 10C so thats 11 Amps Max Constant. So technically the batt can handle 3 amps.

Im getting the math. What I don't fully get is having a mod that is variable watts and volts. Help me here. If I have a VV mod, I can control the watts/vapor. So what would the point be for having these new mods that can directly control watts?

Yeah... 10c is a Good Battery. You should have any Problems Amp-wise.

The Concept of Variable Watts (VW) is if you know what Watts you like for a given e-Liquid, you can set your PV to those Watts and it will adjust the Volts for Whatever Carto/Atty you put on it.

So in Theory, a 2.3ohm Carto/Atty should hit like your 1.1ohm Carto/Atty does.

For someone who uses a Lot of Different Carto/Attys of Different Ohms, this would be a Great Feature.

 

[mphsjeep]

Wow, I kinda figured that one out on my own...there is hope!!!
" Is it so I can just adjust directly to that "sweet spot" directly? I guess its time to get all this down"

Thanks for all your help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!