18650 Extra battery Storage

[macpeace]

So I will need to carry a second 18650 battery with me. I failed to get a case for this at the vape shop. I went online and found this and ordered it. I am a little nervous because it is made out of aluminum. Is this safe????
Thanks

$6.27 Munkees Water-resistant Outdoors "Pill" Case for Batteries - holds 18650* / 14500 / 10440 / CR123A / AA / AAA at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping


Also with my iTaste VTR I got two Efest V2 IMR 3.7V LI-MN batteries 2000mah. These don't seem to last all that long. Is there a better battery that last longer? Thanks

 

[LEE9476]

I'm sure somebody a bit more experienced will come along with more insights and suggestions, but if you're really worried about it you can always cut some plastic disks from milk carton caps or rubber discs from stoppers and put them in either end of the case to prevent any metal to metal contact. I don't think aluminum is very conductive to begin with, but that's what I would try doing. Hope it's helpful

 

[WattWick]

Got one of those incoming as well. Worst case scenario is I fill the ends with hot glue.

 

[Paul.K]

If you want longer lasting batteries try AW IMR's or Panasonic from a reliable vendor.
RTD Vapor AW Batteries
You can also get battery cases there too.
I use this one and is very handy.
Battery Cases : Nylon Battery Case w/ Carabiner

 

[Myk]

I would assume it's made to not short out batteries if that's what they're advertising it to do.

I used something like 18650 Battery Case - Kidney Puncher
FastTech also has those.

I assume your battery is 2000mAh. You can get 3400mAh NCR18650B. (I also assume you got IMR based on recommendations and that is outdated information, plus probably not entirely applicable to your VV/VW mod.)

 

[Thrasher]

I have that same nylon case from RTD, pretty cool but for a long time I just used a small ziplock, more then anything you just need to make sure the battery cannot short out.

 

[Ryedan]

I think the spherical ends of the case will not allow contact with the positive battery terminal.

 

[Baditude]

I assume your battery is 2000mAh. You can get 3400mAh NCR18650B. (I also assume you got IMR based on recommendations and that is outdated information, plus probably not entirely applicable to your VV/VW mod.)

Care to explain how using an IMR battery is "outdated information" and "not applicable for to your VV/VW mod"? What is your source?


Unless you know something about the VTR that I don't know, all regulated mods perform best with a high drain battery and are nearly always recommended for them. The Panasonic NCR18650B 3400mAh is not a high drain battery.

IMR and hybrid batteries are currently recommended for all mods for all applications over Protected ICR batteries. - http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ecf-library/129569-rechargeable-batteries.html

In fact, Orbtronics now runs the following disclaimers:

"Protected Li-ion 18650 batteries are made for high performance flashlights, not for e-cig mods."

"Important - Electronic cigarette owners: Powerful high drain 18650 battery cells for e-cig mods."

-- 3400mAh Protected Panasonic 18650 battery cell by Orbtronic


Either the Orbtronic or Panasonic NCR18650PB 2900 mAh batteries are the better choice as they are high drain hybrid batteries.

NCR18650PD - New NCR18650PF - High Drain Panasonic 18650 2900 mAh Li-ion Battery free shipping from Florida

NCR18650PD 18650 Panasonic Rechargeable Li-ion Battery Flat Top

 

[WarHawk-AVG]

If you want longer lasting batteries try AW IMR's or Panasonic from a reliable vendor.
RTD Vapor AW Batteries
You can also get battery cases there too.
I use this one and is very handy.
Battery Cases : Nylon Battery Case w/ Carabiner

nice!
10char

 

[Myk]

Care to explain how using an IMR battery is "outdated information" and not applicable for a regulated mod?

"Only buy IMR" is the outdated information. There are other safe chemistry batteries now that are better than IMR for both mAh and safety. Battery tech is advancing extremely fast because of the desire for electric cars.

"Probably not entirely applicable to VV/VW mods" is because I have seen "don't use an unprotected battery in ANY mod unless it's IMR" too many times by those who scream the loudest when the fact is you CAN'T use a protected battery in most VV/VW mods. The protection is in the mod which is within the manufacturer's guidelines for unprotected batteries. Good information for mechs, wrong information for VV/VW. Not entirely applicable is because the gist of using safe chemistry is hidden in there somewhere which is always a good plan.

 

[WarHawk-AVG]

I would assume it's made to not short out batteries if that's what they're advertising it to do.

I used something like 18650 Battery Case - Kidney Puncher
FastTech also has those.

I assume your battery is 2000mAh. You can get 3400mAh NCR18650B. (I also assume you got IMR based on recommendations and that is outdated information, plus probably not entirely applicable to your VV/VW mod.)

 

[Baditude]

"Only buy IMR" is the outdated information. There are other safe chemistry batteries now that are better than IMR for both mAh and safety. Battery tech is advancing extremely fast because of the desire for electric cars.

"Probably not entirely applicable to VV/VW mods" is because I have seen "don't use an unprotected battery in ANY mod unless it's IMR" too many times by those who scream the loudest when the fact is you CAN'T use a protected battery in most VV/VW mods. The protection is in the mod which is within the manufacturer's guidelines for unprotected batteries. Good information for mechs, wrong information for VV/VW. Not entirely applicable is because the gist of using safe chemistry is hidden in there somewhere which is always a good plan.

The new hybrid batteries, which you appear to be talking about, are safe chemistry and high drain batteries, which is what IMR batteries are. The battery that you recommended is neither.

I assume your battery is 2000mAh. You can get 3400mAh NCR18650B. (I also assume you got IMR based on recommendations and that is outdated information, plus probably not entirely applicable to your VV/VW mod.)

 

[puchox]

Care to explain how using an IMR battery is "outdated information" and "not applicable for to your VV/VW mod"? What is your source?


Unless you know something about the VTR that I don't know, all regulated mods perform best with a high drain battery and are nearly always recommended for them. The Panasonic NCR18650B 3400mAh is not a high drain battery.

While i agree with you that the Panny PD or the new PF is much better for high drain, the NCR18650B has its place.

I bought the B from Ft when i started vaping, well, because it said 3400mah and i thought wrongly "more mah, better" but up to 3A the B works just like the PD. It will last longer but afaik most regulated mods only fire the batts until 3.5-3.4v.

For example, using a 2ohm carto on a SVD at 15watts would give 2.75A so the B is not really being stressed.


Edit, on topic, the curved points of that pill case seem to be the way to prevent closing the circuit with the battery inside

 

[stevegmu]

mAh ratings seem to be as subjective as power ratings for car stereo amplifiers. The pair of Punch 40s I bought in 1993 deliver a cleaner, more powerful sound than do many modern 1000 watt rated amplifiers.

 

[Paul.K]

mAh ratings seem to be as subjective as power ratings for car stereo amplifiers. The pair of Punch 40s I bought in 1993 deliver a cleaner, more powerful sound than do many modern 1000 watt rated amplifiers.

My punch 45 was running 10 speakers wired series/parallel. Even with big coils and caps the old gear could push through with ease. Now everything is 1000w (so they say).

 

[stevegmu]

My punch 45 was running 10 speakers wired series/parallel. Even with big coils and caps the old gear could push through with ease. Now everything is 1000w (so they say).

People laughed when I spent $600 for them my senior year of high school; 20 years later, I have the last laugh, as they still work.

 

[Paul.K]

People laughed when I spent $600 for them my senior year of high school; 20 years later, I have the last laugh, as they still work.

Yeah I hear ya. Funny how my brother always wanted to borrow my car lol.

Sent from my cotton stuffed microcoiled Android unit.

 

[Cloud boy]

If you want longer lasting batteries try AW IMR's or Panasonic from a reliable vendor.
RTD Vapor AW Batteries
You can also get battery cases there too.
I use this one and is very handy.
Battery Cases : Nylon Battery Case w/ Carabiner

Nice find ! Exactly what I'm looking for!

 

[Ryedan]

"Only buy IMR" is the outdated information. There are other safe chemistry batteries now that are better than IMR for both mAh and safety. Battery tech is advancing extremely fast because of the desire for electric cars.

I've seen a couple of people say this before about the Panasonic hybrids. I know a bit about NCA chemistry and the heat resistant layer (HRL) technology they are using in the NCR series, but have never seen any data that these are safer than IMR.

If anyone has any, I would love to hear about it

 

[ITPython]

Care to explain how using an IMR battery is "outdated information" and "not applicable for to your VV/VW mod"? What is your source?


Unless you know something about the VTR that I don't know, all regulated mods perform best with a high drain battery and are nearly always recommended for them. The Panasonic NCR18650B 3400mAh is not a high drain battery.

IMR and hybrid batteries are currently recommended for all mods for all applications over Protected ICR batteries. - http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ecf-library/129569-rechargeable-batteries.html

In fact, Orbtronics now runs the following disclaimers:

"Protected Li-ion 18650 batteries are made for high performance flashlights, not for e-cig mods."

]Important - Electronic cigarette owners: Powerful high drain 18650 battery cells for e-cig mods."

-- 3400mAh Protected Panasonic 18650 battery cell by Orbtronic


Either the Orbtronic or Panasonic NCR18650PB 2900 mAh batteries are the better choice as they are high drain hybrid batteries.

NCR18650PD - New NCR18650PF - High Drain Panasonic 18650 2900 mAh Li-ion Battery free shipping from Florida

NCR18650PD 18650 Panasonic Rechargeable Li-ion Battery Flat Top

Unless somebody wants to go over the maximum recommended discharge rate, I don't see why protected 3400mAh li-ion's aren't recommended for use in ecigs.

3400mAh AW batts can safely pump out up to 6.8 amps. So unless the amperage exceeds 6.8A, protected 3400's are perfectly fine for a ecig mod (as long as it's a decent battery from a reputable manufacturer, which can be said for any li-ion type of battery).

Now for those who are going sub-ohm, over 5 volts and want some massive wattage, then protected 3400's can't safely produce that kind of amperage. But come on, who in their right mind is regularly vaping @25+ watts? Most people likely keep wattage under 10, and amperage well below 6.8A.