18650+kick mods
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Here's a kickable one more in the $130 to $200 range (depending on how you have it built and finished).
It's not a 'true' mechanical, as it does have a touch-switch and some wiring...
Saber "Kick" Edition
Can't say yet how it performs...have one on order.
I do enjoy my EHPRO brass Chimisis. I most use it in 18650+Kick2 mode. Compared to my K100 in 18650 mode, it's only about 1cm taller when both mods are stood on the button end.
It's not a 'true' mechanical, as it does have a touch-switch and some wiring...
Saber "Kick" Edition
Can't say yet how it performs...have one on order.
I do enjoy my EHPRO brass Chimisis. I most use it in 18650+Kick2 mode. Compared to my K100 in 18650 mode, it's only about 1cm taller when both mods are stood on the button end.
Thank you UncleChuck, for the long explanation! And I agree with you. I was just curious if there were more moving parts I wasn't aware of. I'm just new to mechanicals, but I'm a fast learner
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Is the DNA20 a type of 'kick'?
. Is the DNA20 a type of 'kick'?
Thank you UncleChuck, for the long explanation! And I agree with you. I was just curious if there were more moving parts I wasn't aware of. I'm just new to mechanicals, but I'm a fast learner
Is the DNA20 a type of 'kick'?
The Genuine Evolv Kick 2 and DNA20 have similar specs.
The obvious difference is lack of screen and buttons on a Kick 2.
They'll both take atties down to around 0.5 Ohms and offer thermal, short circuit, and over-drain protection.
When using sub-ohm atties, they go into a DC bypass mode. The regulator doesn't buck voltage enough (if any) to allow low wattage vaping, but if you're doing sub-ohm, you're most likely looking for high wattage in the first place. I'm not sure how much voltage regulation is applied (if any) when using sub-ohm stuff.
With regular atties from 1.5ish and up:
Kick 2 can do from 5 watts to 15 watts.
DNA20D can do from 5 watts to 20 watts.
I personally use a Kick 2 with single coil atties from 2 to 2.5 Ohms...that allows me to get the full range of the voltage regulator...from a cool 5w up to a quite warm 15w.
I've not yet tinkered with sub-ohm stuff. I never really need over 10 watts per coil, and I rarely run dual coils. What little I've run dual coils on my Kick 2 (1 to 1.5 Ohm builds)...I found the 7.5 watts per coil acceptable, tho I sensed a little more kick, as offered by the DNA 20 or a pair of DNA 12 chips would be nice to have. Have not tried a sub-ohm build yet...no need to go there for me.
Multiple coils over 1 Ohm is where the extra 5 watts of the DNA20D would really come in handy.
The sub-ohm by pass mode is great if you want really hot dual coil, or moderate quad coil configs (Only use the very best high drain (20 or more amps) batteries and be very careful if you mess with sub-ohm).
If you're happy with single coil stuff, or cooler dual coil set-ups (I.E. top coil tanks like the vivi-nova stuff, or stock BDDC varieties)...a Kick 2 is plenty in my opinion.
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The most prized feature of a mech mod besides exclusivity (sad) is it's conductivity. The less moving parts and the purer and more conductive the materials the better for our needs.Thank you UncleChuck, for the long explanation! And I agree with you. I was just curious if there were more moving parts I wasn't aware of. I'm just new to mechanicals, but I'm a fast learner
Is the DNA20 a type of 'kick'?
The DNA20 is a regulator much like the Kick but it's not for mechs, can't just be slipped in or out. Has more power than a Kick and Kick2 as well.
Hopefully Evolv will release a Kick with enough power for dual-coils someday.
Also, 'Kick' might seem like a product category but it's an actual product name, specifically made by Evolv (also behind the DNA20) - you'd never see the Crown being called a Kick even though it is a Kickalike.
Why would someone ever want to kick "dual coils"????? Even @ 3.7v a .7Ω dual coil is producing 19.55 watts... Most people that vape dual coils are usually around .5Ω and that would be 27.38 watts.... So again, why would someone want to kick "dual coils"????
To get a regulated non-sagging vape?
I'm sceptically hopeful that they'll outdo themselves and release a 30w Kick3 to mirror the DNA30's capabilities.
Depends on what type of dual coil build.
More watts is not always better. Draw style and air flow properties, wick type, etc...it's about balance, not sheer power.
There's alot of stuff that works great with only 4 or 5 watts per coil...and any more than 6 or 7 watts can get pretty bad since the wicks don't keep up or the air flow is set up for a tighter draw style.
There's still lots of folks who enjoy the low watt dual coil stuff, don't really want much more (not seeking giant lung hitting clouds), and can't afford to vape 10+ mil of liquid or more a day whetting the appetite of a 20+ watt build.
For me, a single coil is enough for this style of vaping and cuts down on the amount of liquid I use, while also allowing me freedom from carrying around extra batteries...but still, there are some nice low wattage dual coil builds out there that lots of people like.
ADJUSTABLE
With the right build, you get a more control over the temperature maintained in the coils without having to rip apart your build and start over. If it's a bit too hot, turn it down, and vice verse.
SAFETY
There are some safety features there as well. Thermal, over drain, and short circuit.
MODULATED
Depending on the resistance of the atty...you get some voltage bucking/boosting capabilities that keep the power steady and consistent till the battery voltage drops below safe limits. You set the desired power, and it vapes there till the battery is too low to be boosted safely up to the required voltage.
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Madvapes bolt w/ 2x extender rings spend the rest on a TON of juice
1x extender can use 18600 w/kick 2x = 18650
The bolt is a "quasi" mechanical...there are wires to the push button
Here is my fasttech bolt and setup
Bolt and kick were $21.71, K2 BCC $7.26, Efest battery from RTDVapor $7.10
Mine is in 18500 mode, need to get another extender
With the above tank I run it at 6.5watts, with a genesis style atomizer I set it at 8 watts...vapes very very very good...but I'm not chasing clouds either
1x extender can use 18600 w/kick 2x = 18650
The bolt is a "quasi" mechanical...there are wires to the push button
Here is my fasttech bolt and setup
Bolt and kick were $21.71, K2 BCC $7.26, Efest battery from RTDVapor $7.10
Mine is in 18500 mode, need to get another extender
With the above tank I run it at 6.5watts, with a genesis style atomizer I set it at 8 watts...vapes very very very good...but I'm not chasing clouds either
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well ?? think they will try to match the 70watt box coming out of the phils in a few weeks ?!?!
Not sure if serious, but I don't think they will, no. Brandon was initially wary of anybody having a need for 15-20w, never mind the 30w of the newest DNA.
If he ever decides to build a 70w+ beast (unlikely because the small market for those will already be served by the small producers doing it) he'd probably insist on non-removable twin 18650s for consumer safety - it'd be the only way he could guarantee some idiot wouldn't try to power an octo-coil with *****fire batteries.
If you like the high watt stuff try to get someone to build a twin 18650 mechanical for you. A guy over on UKV had one built for him and using 30A Sony batts he's got 0.1v drop on a 0.3ohm coil. Crazy-good performance.
Potential to lower resistance to 0.07ohm = 252w.
LegalVape4000 isn't looking too far away!
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