1st Mech Mod

[RigBick]

Yo bro got my first Mech Thursday. A nice gift from an awesome guy at my local brick and mortar. It is a different world. Not necessarily willing to give up my regulated mods. But a pleasant change. Enjoy yours and be safe. Your .09 coils scared me when I first read it. Glad you put them up for other devices. I wrapped dual Kanthal 24AGW, 7 - 2.5 mm wraps in my dead rabbit deck and all ohmed out at .42 A very nice vape. Let's as the new mech dudes be safe. Share your experiences as a new dude as well. Thank you and May the force be with you.

 

[dhomes]

I run .09s to 0.15 alll the time on Sonys VCT5As, it's the only 18650 I buy these days.

I highly recommend you buy batteries from rtdvapor.com (illumn.com is also good), they are 100% original batteries

 

[Baditude]

I run .09s to 0.15 alll the time on Sonys VCT5As, it's the only 18650 I buy these days.

0.09 ohms has an amp draw of 46.66667 amps.
0.15 ohms has an amp draw of 28 amps.

In both cases, you are way over the 25 amp limit of the Sony VTC5A batteries.

Sony VTC5A 2500mAh 18650 Bench Test Results...a fantastic 25A battery!
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I'm not sure what your purpose in posting the above comments were. To post that in a thread that the original poster admits he is using his first mechanical mod seems to indicate that going over the amp limit of a battery is acceptable. That is a disservice to him and any other uneducated (battery safety/ohm's law) mech mod noobie that may come across this thread.

Everyone is free to choose what their own personal safety standards are. If you choose to build above your battery's amp limits, that's your perogitive. But please consider who may be reading your posts the next time you do that. At the very least add a disclaimer.

 

[dhomes]

No, i'm not encouraging to use it by any means, i know and assume the risks, but he did mention his first coil was in that ballpark. I meant to say "hey, ok not good for you but dont be so alarmed"

Sorry,

0.09 ohms has an amp draw of 46.66667 amps.
0.15 ohms has an amp draw of 28 amps.

In both cases, you are way over the 25 amp limit of the Sony VTC5A batteries.

Sony VTC5A 2500mAh 18650 Bench Test Results...a fantastic 25A battery!
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I'm not sure what your purpose in posting the above comments were. To post that in a thread that the original poster admits he is using his first mechanical mod seems to indicate that going over the amp limit of a battery is acceptable. That is a disservice to him and any other uneducated (battery safety/ohm's law) mech mod noobie that may come across this thread.

Everyone is free to choose what their own personal safety standards are. If you choose to build above your battery's amp limits, that's your perogitive. But please consider who may be reading your posts the next time you do that. At the very least add a disclaimer.

 

[Outcast]

I run .09s to 0.15 alll the time on Sonys VCT5As, it's the only 18650 I buy these days.

I highly recommend you buy batteries from rtdvapor.com (illumn.com is also good), they are 100% original batteries

So do I but as he is a new mech user he shod build within the cdr till he knows what he is doing then go low also ... u will get hate as all the ohm laws amp cdr and mooch bible thumpers will chime in best not to say what u vape at here cuz just brings u bs drama bro


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[stols001]

Amazon may not be selling batteries much longer (or at least without a disclaimer) due to an explosive incident.

Amazon is great for a LOT of stuff but they are also a third party seller. They will not be verifying the authenticity of batteries from all (or even any) batteries they sell. They may continue to sell them, IDK, it's a big company that can handle a lawsuit or two.

Are you in the US? I'd post Mooch's chart but I always fail doing that. You can easily find it HERE:

https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/blogs/mooch.256958/

Use the most recent chart, and Mooch lists the more popular battery options as well as in the last cell reputable vendors selling authentics. The sad part is, most reputable vendors are faster, cheaper, and overall BETTER than sources of unknown origin which are completely unknown and you MUST treat them as such, ESPECIALLY with a mech. I use IMRbatteries.com they are fast, send free battery case and battery rewraps, and have a legal disclaimer about vaping. They also have EXCELLENT customer service. I accidentally ordered the wrong battery once and they told me to just put return to sender on it and once they received it, they credited my account INCLUDNG shipping. I couldn't get my order undone fast enough because they were so fast with getting it shipped.

I use them pretty exclusively except it they don't carry the battery I want. IMO you can't get much better than that.

There is no excuse for using a rewrapped or inauthentic cell but I'm glad you are asking the questions, that's how we learn and etc.

Best of luck. You can do it. With the right battery and etc.

Anna

 

[Ben85]

So do I but as he is a new mech user he shod build within the cdr till he knows what he is doing then go low also ... u will get hate as all the ohm laws amp cdr and mooch bible thumpers will chime in best not to say what u vape at here cuz just brings u bs drama bro


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Mooch bible thumpers? Nope, just sensible and considerate members who know what they are talking about.

No one who “knows what they are doing” will go below the batteries CDR. It doesn’t take knowledge to work out how to build low, it takes knowledge to work out how to get a decent vape in the safe parameters of the battery. Building stupidly low is a cop out for someone who has very little understanding of correct building techniques and therefore compensates for this with a ton of amps. Build well and this is completely unnecessary.

 

[Outcast]

Mooch bible thumpers? Nope, just sensible and considerate members who know what they are talking about.

No one who “knows what they are doing” will go below the batteries CDR. It doesn’t take knowledge to work out how to build low, it takes knowledge to work out how to get a decent vape in the safe parameters of the battery. Building stupidly low is a cop out for someone who has very little understanding of correct building techniques and therefore compensates for this with a ton of amps. Build well and this is completely unnecessary.

“Knows what they are doing” that’s just ur opinion but on off 1 cell tubes now anyhow and using 4s lipos cut I like hot vape and can do it “safer” with lipo cells


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[mimöschen]

1. You could switch to a parallel setup. Simple as that. But that's too inconvenient I guess?

2. To believe that you're vaping safe on an ampdraw of 50 is more of an opinion, than staying in the safety specs of the battery manufacturers.

3. As an "Ultra Member" you always have an exemplary function. Advertising such a low build to a noob is just irresponsible and on top of that unbelievably stupid.

 

[Topwater Elvis]

“Knows what they are doing” that’s just ur opinion but on off 1 cell tubes now anyhow and using 4s lipos cut I like hot vape and can do it “safer” with lipo cells


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This thread isn't about you, what you like, what you use or how you do it or to brag about how low you go.

Clearly stated in the title " 1st Mech Mod ", the OP is obviously new to their use, confused with basic battery selection, ohm laws, maintenance and the overall safe use and is looking for good/safe/sound advice for a new mechanical user.

Safety is not an ' opinion ', especially when offering advice to someone brand new to mechanical use.

Your attitude & advice is poor at best, equal to your spelling, punctuation & grammar.

Your disrespectful and rude comments about Mooch and his work combined with your continued interjection of flat out unsafe methods clearly demonstrate you do not know or understand how to get what you want in a safe manner.

Any dummy can use a bigger hammer.

 

[Outcast]

This thread isn't about you, what you like, what you use or how you do it or to brag about how low you go.

Clearly stated in the title " 1st Mech Mod ", the OP is obviously new to their use, confused with basic battery selection, ohm laws, maintenance and the overall safe use and is looking for good/safe/sound advice for a new mechanical user.

Safety is not an ' opinion ', especially when offering advice to someone brand new to mechanical use.

Your attitude & advice is poor at best, equal to your spelling, punctuation & grammar.

Your disrespectful and rude comments about Mooch and his work combined with your continued interjection of flat out unsafe methods clearly demonstrate you do not know or understand how to get what you want in a safe manner.

Any dummy can use a bigger hammer.

U shod read what I 1st said no kidding I said don’t tell him a .08 on 1st time user I did not start it so get off me thanks bro

Also said nothing about mooch just to the others that think it’s the Gospel it’s nothing but a guideline

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[stols001]

I'm a bit confused by your post, but it's okay, I really don't need to know much more. Etc.

Please don't take offense, I'm just well, I don't want to create any more dissent. Etc.

Anna

 

[Layzee Vaper]

I really can't see the point of pushing the cells we use beyond the CDR. You just end up with short vape times and shorten the life cycle of the cell. There are loads of high power mods available.... why push your luck and risk a cell venting or exploding when there are so many other options readily available? With practice most people manage to find a build that does satisfy without taking undue risks.

 

[r055co]

Finally got my Mech mod today, the first one I've ever owned. I was going to order a different one, but couldn't afford it and this was already ordered. So I am stuck with a Hybrid Mechanical Mod as my first. It is an Ijoy RDTA Mod and uses a single 18650 battery. One positive I see by looking at it is it has 4 air holes in the top for venting.

Anyway, I am using a Samsung 25R (20A) battery, and my build is showing as
.09 ohms. I tried plugging in the numbers to the ohms law calculator I found

Ohms Law Calculator

And got confused. It says to plug in 2 of the values and calculate. So the resistance I know would be .09 ohms. Would the voltage be 3.7v from the Samsung 25R battery? View attachment 745547

A little enlightenment here please!

This is my lecture for new Mech Users -

1. Ohm's law, Steam Engine | free vaping calculators makes it easy and there's even an app on it for Android
2. Batteries! you MUST take good care of your batteries and know them!!!!!!!!
a. Avoid garbage batteries like eFest, Imren, etc. who rewrap rejects with grossly inflated amp ratings. Stick with authentic LG, Sony or Samsung from reputable (not ebay or amazon) sources, great places to get authentic are from
Liion Wholesale Batteries | Li-ion battery/cell distributor
Earth's #1 source for IMR 18650 Batteries, Chargers, Cases & Wraps | IMRbatteries.com
b. Stick well within Continuous Discharge Rate (CDR) Not the "pulse"
c. Keep up to date with what Mooch tests and battery ratings, follow his posts on Facebook and his Blog
d. In Mod's with multipule batteries, marry them.
e. Get some battery wraps, they're cheap and easy to re-wrap batteries. Any nicks,tears or what ever don't be stupid and just re-wrap.
3. Don't build stupid low a good builder can chuck and get awesome dense vape from a good build. It's simple, with 20 CDR Amp batteries -
a. Single battery mod's you're fine with .2 ohms on up
b. Dual Parallel you're fine with .15 on up. Parallel you take the full CDR of one battery and you can add 1/2 the amp rating of the next battery
c. Series you double the voltage but you share the amp. So a series you build high with a lot of wire, no lower that .4 ohms.
4. Make sure you don't have any shorts. For an extra caution any new build I vape on a regulated mod for a few drips or with a tank about a 1/4 tank. This is to insure nothing wonky with my build or any shorts.
5. Careful if it's not in your hand, if it doesn't have a lock on the button and you put it in your pocket (which I really don't recommend) insure nothing else is in your pocket and it's loose. Don't want to put it in your front jeans pocket and blow your Johnson off ya know
6. Last but certainly NOT the least, keep it clean! Clean it when you first get it "before" you even use it and clean it on a regular basis.
a. Ultrasonics are a very good investment, got mine off Amazon for around $25.