So I just have to say it, .. if you are an e liquid vendor who charges 20 or more for a tiny 30 ml bottle of juice, you are ripping people off plain and simple. I understand that there is research and development and all that jazz , but seriously though! It's a buck or two to make it and for the larger vendors probably literally cents to produce a 30 ml bottle. Maybe at first the 20 is necessary to recoup cost , but if I go on your website and you have a damn racing team! Lower your freaking prices . And yes everyone I realize I don't have to buy it , that's not the point. The point is when somebody starts out you get bombarded with all these brands and flavors and house juice etc. Then there's the you tubers who "review " products and just flat out lie in some cases . I've already spent a ridiculously stupid amount of money in just a short time on tanks , mods, and more importantly juices which don't last long in the only tank I've found that I actually like so far tfv8 with rebuildable section. So long rant short , there will always be a new sucker but I'm wising up and moving on to a more affordable option, imagine the long term juice companies , not just the quick profit . Over time it's far more profitable to keep your clients at a reasonable rate than to have to drawbthe new crowd over and over who doesn't know any better. Honestly if I was a you tube review person and someone sent me a bottle of juice that was nearly a dOlla per ml I wouldn't even review it ! Because that is called a scam.