20 Drops Isn't a ML!!

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zoiDman

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What if you want to make 100ml of Bavarian Caramel/Maple Twist at some point. Now you need to count 60 drops of caramel, 50 drops of maple, etc.
PITA, and in no way faster.

If you start off with 0.6ml caramel, 0.5ml maple, it is far easier and faster to make a bigger batch when you want to.

You would be surprised how Fast it is to Unscrew the Cap off a Flavoring Bottle, Drop out 60 Drops and then put the Cap Back On.

As to being a PITA, I say it is kinda a Perspective issue and Relative to the Frame of Reference of the Observer. To me, it is a PITA to buy, Use, Wash and then Dry Syringes and or Pipettes.

But, as I always say, Go with what Works Best for you.
 

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Because not all drops are created equal. So if someone with a larger/smaller dropper tries to replicate that recipe ... the finish product could very well taste much different and not what the recipe maker intended.

Some people might think "yeah but if you use the same size dropper for the entire recipe the flavors should balance out and taste just like the original." Unfortunately that is not always the case.

Some flavors will taste completely different at a higher volume, regardless if you increase the volume of the other flavors in the mix. Coffee flavors for instance can be VERY sensitive to slight imperfections in volume.

Now having said that ... people are free to make and post recipes however they desire. I'm just stating the potential errors this can cause when others try to replicate a recipe using "loose" measurements.

All drops are not created equal.

This is true. And I don't think there is much to Debate about it. But once again, What is Difference?

Perhaps if everyone liked the same Strength of Flavoring it would. But people Different. Some Like 7% Flavorings. Some 15%. And to others, 10% is Just Right.

Just because a Recipes Proportions work for one person Doesn’t mean that it will be what Another Likes and or Wants. So being able to Exchange Recipes isn't that relevant to me.

As for Drops being a "Loose" measurement, I think you are confusing Accuracy with Precision. Check out the graphic below for and Example of the Difference Between the Two Concepts.

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All of these are "right on the money".
It depends on your idea of accurate,taste,ymmv, etc.
But as an example, I do use recipes I have found here that use drops.
Because of this I have made a "cheat sheet" that looks like this.....
drops per ml
pipette = 38
amber bottle dropper (15-20ml all glass) = 35
glycerin bottle(walmart 6 fl oz) =16
caramel bottle(onestopdiy TFA 30ml) =26

You can add a recipe to ejuicemeup and every
time you change droppers... just go change the
drops per ml....and continue. The same can be
done for the % (I was soooo happy to figure this out)
This is offered not to debate; but only as an fyi.
 
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All of these are "right on the money".
It depends on your idea of accurate,taste,ymmv, etc.
But as an example, I do use recipes I have found here that use drops.
Because of this I have made a "cheat sheet" that looks like this.....
drops per ml
pipette = 38
amber bottle dropper (15-20ml all glass) = 35
glycerin bottle(walmart 6 fl oz) =16
caramel bottle(onestopdiy TFA 30ml) =26

You can add a recipe to ejuicemeup and every
time you change droppers... just go change the
drops per ml....and continue. The same can be
done for the % (I was soooo happy to figure this out)
This is offered not to debate; but only as an fyi.

Sounds like a Great Tech to me.

And it also sounds like you have given this some thought. Right On.
 

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If you checked & know your drop/ml ratio I don't see the problem. What am I missing here?

Ya except the "original recipe" which was based on 20 drops per ml wasn't actually a finished product of 10mls rather something less the difference of each flavors variance.

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Couldn't you make 10 different batches? In the same bottle? At the same time?

Only if i measured all components in drops but since i only measured the flavor in drops the volume of the parts don't grow proportionately. Also needed to volume correct... didn't want 47.925 mls... wanted 50mls

*tapatslk sucks... this was meant to respond to post 54

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Exactly why I posted my opinion.
If you scale up ..same drops/just more...I think
it will Usually be "close enough for government work"
But, given that I am as new as can be...
I have already run into not being able to recreate a juice I liked.
So I started keeping better notes, drops per ml included.
Especially since there was such a difference between the
bottles they came in (caramel 20 d/ml one vendor
and brown sugar 40 d/ml diff. vendor...both 30 ml bottles) .
 
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