2010 GGTS with AVS Help Needed

[jsaveker]

Hi Folks....

I have just recieved my GGTS and it is just fab.

However whilst I am familiar with AFSv2 I have never used the AVS.

I put my atty on the screw thing and placed the o ring at the bottom of the atty. I then screw the atty in to the AVS. Then fill the AVS with juice and in seconds the AVS vents juice out of the small hole in the screw bit... i.e. not leaking past the o ring but rather out of the small tube the atty is screwed in to.

I then chucked the juice and started again. Washed the components and this time screwed the AVS in to the collector tank prior to filling.

This time the same happened but worse... the collector tank vented on to my batterys... it just drips striaght onto and past the battery connector post on the collector tank.

Please could someone point me the right direction in respect to troubleshooting...

Also is the collector tank supposed to vent juice?

Cheers in advance folks

Jim.

 

[HoPeFuLLL]

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Come chat before I fall asleep.

 

[jsaveker]

Turns out with a little diagnostic help from Hopeful I am missing two small o-rings from my top cap / collector tank thingy.

 

[vapn]

The IRC chat thing is not good for the rest of the people having issues. The whole purpose of this forum is so that there is information available for others having the same issues. When you take people off in your chat room it is private and once you close that room all that valuable information is gone. Why don't you help people here on the forum so that others can benefit from it as well? There are people that just read the forum and learn from others mistakes and fixes. While I am sure it is a great tool to support one person at a time, what about the hundreds or thousands that come here looking for information?

 

[jsaveker]

Good point....

Let me break down what happened.

When I attempted to use the AVS I assembled as shown by one of the many videos on youtube.... I filled with juice and began vaping.

I quickly became aware juice was venting in to the GG itself... my cells were swimming in juice.

After going in to the chat room and speaking with Hopeful it became apparent I was missing the two tiny o-rings that seal the atty / bat pin on the top cap.

I removed the two o-rings from my other GGTS topcap and put them on my new GGTS with AFS... suddenly everything is working.

I have e-mailed the supplier asking for him to send me some.... hopefully he can turn this around quickly for me.

I am also starting to wonder if the attys I ordered are indeed HV as the juice seems burnt... I may concede this might be me not allowing enough juice to the atty so after this tank is finished I will swap the new atty recieved today for one of my existing HV attys and see if there is any difference.

The atty's I receieved today do not have any markings indicating HV... but then this might be normal.

Other than the missing o-rings I am very happy with the new GGTS.... I love how it is so much lighter than my existing 2009 model.

On one note... I think this forum is a great resource for help... but I still can't help thinking the GG needs a Wiki which could be a living document of how to assemble, use and maintain the GG.

All in all Great job Imeo.

Will update back tomorrow with my findings on the atty... hopefully it's just me being silly and not regulating the juice to the atty propery.

 

[jsaveker]

Update - just for the crack I put a sinlge 18650 3.7v cell in and the juice no longer tastes burnt and it's hitting like a champ!

Then I check my order.... and see that I ordered

***901 Atomizer Chrome HIGH RESISTANCE****

So I am getting confused... should I have ordered Low Resistance.... I thought high resistance was correct for 6v

I am starting to feel a bit stupid?!?

 

[vapn]

You are right. The high resistance atty is indeed a high voltage atty. Low resistance would be good for 3.7v only. Believe me though I have had a few High resistance atties that tasted better at 3.7v. You have the option to use what ever battery you want in the TS and that is the beauty of the device. You can tune it to your tastes. You will get the hang of the AVS in time and it will be second nature knowing what the atty needs. If you reach a burnt taste close off the control ring (adjustable draw ring) and take a few very short pulls. This will force a little juice in the atty. Remember to take only VERY short puffs without pushing the button. We call this a primer puff. Imeo says you can also open the Control ring and blow into the mouthpiece for the same effect. Very quick puffs of air going past the juice inlet hole will get a few drops to enter the atty. Most important part is to not give up on it. You always have the option to use a cartomizer with a hole. They are the most user friendly way to use the AFS.

Thanks for posting your issues, hopefully someone else will benefit from your experiences.

 

[jsaveker]

Thanks Vapn. I am fairly familar with using the AFS v2 and I think the AVS is pretty much the same....

After having used the 3.7v bat on this atty for 20 mins I am convinced it is not a HV atty.... that said I just dismantled the AVS and put in one of my existing HV attys and popped my 6v bat setup in and bliss.

--edit-- just tried a further test... I tried my existing HV attys with a 3.7 cell and they did not even fire.... only further making me believe I have been sent the wrong attys --edit--

I think this is a simple case of being sent the wrong attys.

I much prefer the warm vapor of 6v than 3.7 but 6v on the attys I was sent today just tastes burnt.

I have mailed the supplier so hopefully all will be resolved soon enough.

I love the idea of the collector tank and adjustable draw for carto's.... when I thought Imeo could not improve on the device he continues to impress.

Jim.

 

[ggero]

Jsav you can meter the resistance of the atty to see what is going on...you will need a polymeter for this

 

[jsaveker]

Jsav you can meter the resistance of the atty to see what is going on...you will need a polymeter for this

Of course.... why did I not think of this. I have a multimeter. I will go ahead and get some reading tomorrow.

Thanks for the heads up!!!!

 

[vapn]

Just what I was going to say. While a multimeter is not required it sure is handy when you are dealing with different resistance atties that are not labeled or just to see if an atty might be mislabeled or if it really is dead..... Sure helps when you think the one in your AFS is dead. You can check it at the battery connection without taking it out of the AFS.

You can always trouble shoot by swapping parts though.

 

[VPDownunder]

Yeah a multimeter is something every vaper should own imho, I've mixed up attys before and it's the only way to know 100% which is which when they aren't labeled.

 

[HoPeFuLLL]

The IRC chat thing is not good for the rest of the people having issues. The whole purpose of this forum is so that there is information available for others having the same issues. When you take people off in your chat room it is private and once you close that room all that valuable information is gone. Why don't you help people here on the forum so that others can benefit from it as well? There are people that just read the forum and learn from others mistakes and fixes. While I am sure it is a great tool to support one person at a time, what about the hundreds or thousands that come here looking for information?

Mate, I'm, helping people who are not my customers to sort issues out quickly and easily if I can. They just received their shiny new product and want it working now, not several hours from now after hopefully someone posts a reply.

I do agree if we find something new that they should post it here though. Up to them.

And I 100% agree about the meter.

 

[jsaveker]

The IRC chat thing is not good for the rest of the people having issues. The whole purpose of this forum is so that there is information available for others having the same issues. When you take people off in your chat room it is private and once you close that room all that valuable information is gone. Why don't you help people here on the forum so that others can benefit from it as well? There are people that just read the forum and learn from others mistakes and fixes. While I am sure it is a great tool to support one person at a time, what about the hundreds or thousands that come here looking for information?

I have to disagree... Hopeful was able to resolve my issue in minutes using real time chat.

Whilst this is certainly one on one support I don't think it detracts from the usefulness of this forum especially considering I posted an update on the tread to keep people updated.

I see that this forum has a wiki for documentation... if people feel strongly that we should document common issues, troubleshooting techniques and general usage instructions then we should use the wiki. A wiki would be easier to present the information in such a manner people could easily read and search for things that interest them.

This forum has a "mediawiki" wiki the same software that wikipedia itself uses.

Posts could be categorised by tags and menu pages could be built.

Most open source software knowledge base repository use wiki's and that way rather than having to read through entire threads of information people could edit the original document to improve it over time... it's a living document.

We should not be concentrating on one means of sharing knowledge but embracing the various means to our disposal for better use.

Just my $0.02

 

[imeothanasis]

Exellent work my friend Hope and quick. IRC worked like a phone call. And it was very kind of you to help a GG member that was not your customer! I am really impressed with you buddy

 

[waywardsister]

I enthusiastically second (or third) the wiki idea. There is far too much info needed for this cig than forum posts can handle

 

[urbanite]

yeah I definitely agree on the Wiki idea... some way to structure all this info scattered about in the threads about the GG would be very useful... I didn't know this place has one... the less reasons to not make it happen...

 

[imeothanasis]

What is wiki?

 

[jsaveker]

This place does have one

Main Page - E-Cigarette Wiki

Imeo - A Wiki is a web site that can be edited by any reader. Wikis offer the opportunity to share knowledge and information

 

[imeothanasis]

This place does have one

Main Page - E-Cigarette Wiki

Imeo - A Wiki is a web site that can be edited by any reader. Wikis offer the opportunity to share knowledge and information

I see. Thanks a lot Js. So do we need something like that?