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I have used 28, 30 and 32 in my RBA/RDAs. But really, you can use anything, it completely depends on what resistance your after, if you plan to dual coil or single coil and what kind of batteries your going to use it on. Some more info here would help to answer better.

If you haven't bored out the air-holes yet, and plan to do simple wrapping, then I suggest aiming for a higher resistance, so use the 32.

Personally, I have moved away from other wick types and stick to cotton. That said, when I did use silica, I used 1.5mm silica folded over. Wrap the coil close to the folded end with 32 guage. If your going to dual coil do 7/6 wraps. If your going to single coil then do a 5/4 wrap. Once wrapped, cut the excess wick to about an inch away from the coil and untwist the silica.

In an IGO W I wouldnt recommend SS mesh, and as I have no experience with some of the more exotic wick types like bamboo, I cant advise on these.
 

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I have used 28, 30 and 32 in my RBA/RDAs. But really, you can use anything, it completely depends on what resistance your after, if you plan to dual coil or single coil and what kind of batteries your going to use it on. Some more info here would help to answer better.

If you haven't bored out the air-holes yet, and plan to do simple wrapping, then I suggest aiming for a higher resistance, so use the 32.

Personally, I have moved away from other wick types and stick to cotton. That said, when I did use silica, I used 1.5mm silica folded over. Wrap the coil close to the folded end with 32 guage. If your going to dual coil do 7/6 wraps. If your going to single coil then do a 5/4 wrap. Once wrapped, cut the excess wick to about an inch away from the coil and untwist the silica.

In an IGO W I wouldnt recommend SS mesh, and as I have no experience with some of the more exotic wick types like bamboo, I cant advise on these.


So I should use 32 guage?
i thought the thicker the wire the better.
soo thinner is better?
 

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So I should use 32 guage?
i thought the thicker the wire the better.
soo thinner is better?

As said, it very much depends on how you plan to build your coils, what resistance your aiming for, etc.

Thicker wire results in lower resistance. If you do this, go sub ohm, and don't have a battery that can handle it, you can end up with battery acid leaking all over or even an explosion in the worst case scenario. This is why the first thing I did was ask for more info.

A single coil 5/4 wrap with 32 gauge will put you at about 2.4 ohm with a 2.5 mm internal diameter. A dual coil with 7/6 wraps on 2.5 mm will put you at about 1.8. Both are safe for any decent battery. If you did the same with 28 gauge wire, you would be at about 1.4 and 0.7 respectively, the latter being dangerous on some battery types.

If posting advice, I would rather err on the side of caution than tell you to do something that may end up going very badly.

If you post your battery types, mod, etc, people can respond much more accurately. Also, what resistance are you aiming for?
 

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As said, it very much depends on how you plan to build your coils, what resistance your aiming for, etc.

Thicker wire results in lower resistance. If you do this, go sub ohm, and don't have a battery that can handle it, you can end up with battery acid leaking all over or even an explosion in the worst case scenario. This is why the first thing I did was ask for more info.

A single coil 5/4 wrap with 32 gauge will put you at about 2.4 ohm with a 2.5 mm internal diameter. A dual coil with 7/6 wraps on 2.5 mm will put you at about 1.8. Both are safe for any decent battery. If you did the same with 28 gauge wire, you would be at about 1.4 and 0.7 respectively, the latter being dangerous on some battery types.

If posting advice, I would rather err on the side of caution than tell you to do something that may end up going very badly.

If you post your battery types, mod, etc, people can respond much more accurately. Also, what resistance are you aiming for?

Well I'm just aiming for super high clouds , but with right resistance.
I'm going for dual coil on my igo-w
 

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I'm sorry, but 'right resistance' doesn't qualify as an answer for this.

If you want crazy clouds, I dual coil at 0.2 ohms on a trident v2 clone with a silver plated mech mod (k101) with a Sony 1600 mah high drain battery rated at 30 amp continuous using pure VG - yes, I'm cheap. If you build that without knowing your battery type, and you happen to have a 10 amp max limit battery, your going to vent battery acid all over yourself - not worth the clouds.

Cloud chasing is done by folks with a fair bit of knowledge, if you want to do it, your going to need to do a ton of research. You MUST know how to calculate the amperage your going to draw, you MUST know if your battery can handle it.
 

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The allure of cloud chasing alludes me. As stated above, it is a dangerous sport requiring a lot of knowledge of electricity and electronics. While not electronics per-se, you are dealing with putting a load across a battery. Have you ever seen a wire bridged across a car battery? Not pretty.

Consider that you are shopping for high capacity, high drain batteries. Not your typical AA or or D cells, but very specific high drain batteries. Then, you are putting them under load to walk the line by pulling as much power out of them as you can to generate as much heat as possible. This, in turn, can easily go bad if you don't know exactly what you are doing.

You will get all sorts of advice on one aspect or another, but understanding the whole is key to not hurting yourself. While people may tell you to get one mod or another, and one atomizer or another... or recommend a certain battery, or wire gauge, it's the whole thing together that can go boom. Be careful.

Before you figure out what wire to use, you should know some of these things, and this is by no means a full list:

Understand Ohm's Law and how it pertains to the relationship between Voltage, Wattage, Resistance and Amperage

The Amperage rating of your battery, and if it is peak or constant

The voltage drop from your device

The actual resistance of your coil head

The Voltage output of your battery

Also, the internal resistance of your battery is good to know as well, also if it has a built in protection circuit.

The top two are most important. Knowing the specs of your battery will give you the Voltage and Amperage numbers you will need to understand what resistance you should be shooting for in your coil, and you will need to factor in the voltage drop your device will offer. From here, you will need to apply Ohm's Law to calculate whether or not you will be drawing more current than your battery can safely provide.

There is a lot to knowing what gauge if wire is best.
 

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I tried the 30 ga. and not enough smoke... It feels like I'm hittin air.
Do u think 26 is safer or 28 guage ?

What resistance does the coil measure? How many volts are you putting on it? What type of coil did you wrap?

If you have a local vape shop, I might suggest popping in and asking a few questions, and maybe even a demo of how to wrap a coil. It makes more sense in person than on YouTube. Speaking of which, have you watched many videos of coil wrapping? I recommend checking out some of the big guys... Pbusardo, grimmgreen and RipTrippers videos. They are very informative... Rip has some solid devices, I am a little jealous.

Before you jump in too far, what is the amperage rating on your battery? I am reluctant to offer info based on how little info you seem to have. Not bashing at all... We all start somewhere, and I want everyone to vape safely. Before you try to go low resistance (ohms), make sure your battery can handle it. If not, you run the risk of it literally blowing your face up.
 

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I tried the 30 ga. and not enough smoke... It feels like I'm hittin air.
Do u think 26 is safer or 28 guage ?

Dude you keep asking all the wrong questions. Any gauge wire can be unsafe if you are that in the dark. (And no, your Sentinel clone does not output 3 volts. :facepalm:) You either need to hook up with someone who can guide you through all this in person or do some serious very basic research before you build anything.
 
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Hi everyone.
I have a igo-w tank and my mod is a sentinel clone which outputs 3 volts
which is the best guage wire to put ?
26
28
30
32?
and any tips for homemade wicks? that u can use besides cotton

As stated above, your mod isn't 3v, it's actually 3.7v average. 4.2v off the charger down to 3.5v (safe stopping point).
Look up an ohms law calculator, there are tons on the net, just Google, and type in some numbers, start at 3.8v, this will allow for the sag that the load will put on the battery fresh off the charger.
Learn the "C" rating on your batteries, not all batteries are created equal! This will tell you how many amps the will safely take, then subtract 20% just to CYA!
I don't encourage or endorse sub ohm vapping, nor do I practice it, I don't see the need. There are plenty of other ways to be obnoxious without risking eminent legislation on something that is actually helping people stop smoking!

I have an IGO-L and my typical build is 3mm silica with 32ga, a 4-5 wrap at around 1.7-2 ohms or a 3-4 wrap around 1.2 ohms. BUT, I test and work each one of my builds out on my Provari before I even think about putting them on a mechanical! I know they are safe to use because the Provari wont fire anything below .9 ohms and lets me know if there is a short that I need to sort out.
Good luck, but I fear this fell on deaf ears.
 

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I hope you stop back and read this with an open mind. I know all the cool kids are the ones blowing giant clouds. Somewhere along the way, this became a pissing contest, and puffing an a smokestack is what it's all about.

You sound young. I am thinking late teens from your grammar and tone, I could be wrong. It sounds like you decently discovered vaping, and are enamored with the giant cloud thing, maybe to be cool. This might sound insulting, but I am trying to relay important information, and the responses you are leaving sound to me (and from comments, others as well) that you are just looking for the quick answer of "use x gauge wire and blow giant clouds"... unfortunately, it's not that simple....

As stated previously, this is dangerous stuff if not approached with a certain baseline of understanding. Without knowing what you are doing, the consequences can be as serious as the device literally blowing up in your hand/face. The advice provided, and the comments I am making are coming from a standpoint of wanting to keep you, and every vaper safe.

I recommend just staying with standard coils, maybe even Kanger ProTanks and such for a while until you truly understand how the device works. Watch videos, read advice and gather as much info as you can before jumping in to sub ohm builds. You will notice that the majority of posters here talk about builds between 1.5 and 3 ohms, depending, and a minority are delving in to the sub ohm world (crazy giant clouds)

The approach you seem to be taking is like getting your drivers license and buying a Ferrari, or like learning to skate one day and expecting to go pro the following week. This doesn't work. There is a learning curve. It's obvious that you are having a hard time building a coil.. You should learn the basics before trying to push it to the limits. Simple things like break down, dry burn and re-wick a coil come before actually building one.

Please, slow down a bit, get the right info, listen to the answers you are getting instead of sifting for the answer you want. We are all here to help. I know that it might seem the contrary, since we are not giving you a straight answer to your question, but the truth is, the questions you are asking show that you are lacking a certain base of information. If you read back through this thread, you will find lots of direction, and areas of insight that you can use toi get this baseline of information.

Feel free to PM me with questions. I will answer the best I can, with an emphasis on safety. This is a fun hobby, but as I said, it's a dangerous one, and the consequences of jumping in with both feet can mean losing fingers, teeth or at best, a serious burn in your hands and lap.
 

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What resistance does the coil measure? How many volts are you putting on it? What type of coil did you wrap?

If you have a local vape shop, I might suggest popping in and asking a few questions, and maybe even a demo of how to wrap a coil. It makes more sense in person than on YouTube. Speaking of which, have you watched many videos of coil wrapping? I recommend checking out some of the big guys... Pbusardo, grimmgreen and RipTrippers videos. They are very informative... Rip has some solid devices, I am a little jealous.

Before you jump in too far, what is the amperage rating on your battery? I am reluctant to offer info based on how little info you seem to have. Not bashing at all... We all start somewhere, and I want everyone to vape safely. Before you try to go low resistance (ohms), make sure your battery can handle it. If not, you run the risk of it literally blowing your face up.



Well I have a sentinel clone and the tank is a igo-w
Idk much about it , but i think it gives 3 volts
 

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WIRE ALONE DOES NOT MEAN ANYTHING IN THE SCIENCE OF CLOUDS........you can make a 3/4 wrap coil with 30g for a 1ohm coil and then you can take some 28g and make a 5/6 wrap for 1 ohm......in the end you can make any coil out of any gauge the same resistance......

the only thing the thicker wire gives you is more coverage area on the wick.

Stop wrapping your head around the wire and start asking other questions that pertain to safety

This was to answer the OP question and then a rant towards some people that replied who seem to be fairly new to the lower resistance vaping
 

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As stated above, your mod isn't 3v, it's actually 3.7v average. 4.2v off the charger down to 3.5v (safe stopping point).
Look up an ohms law calculator, there are tons on the net, just Google, and type in some numbers, start at 3.8v, this will allow for the sag that the load will put on the battery fresh off the charger.
Learn the "C" rating on your batteries, not all batteries are created equal! This will tell you how many amps the will safely take, then subtract 20% just to CYA!
I don't encourage or endorse sub ohm vapping, nor do I practice it, I don't see the need. There are plenty of other ways to be obnoxious without risking eminent legislation on something that is actually helping people stop smoking!

I have an IGO-L and my typical build is 3mm silica with 32ga, a 4-5 wrap at around 1.7-2 ohms or a 3-4 wrap around 1.2 ohms. BUT, I test and work each one of my builds out on my Provari before I even think about putting them on a mechanical! I know they are safe to use because the Provari wont fire anything below .9 ohms and lets me know if there is a short that I need to sort out.
Good luck, but I fear this fell on deaf ears.

Well I have a sentinel clone and the tank is a igo-w
Idk much about it , but i think it gives 3 volts

Read the above post, as you obviously didn't before! It's not putting out 3v and this will skew the results when you try to calculate it, if you do!
 

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This is from another thread, but will give you a better idea of the potential of these batteries.

Both batteries and chargers vary widely in quality. They are not created equal. It would be in your best interests to invest in quality brand-name batteries and charger. Any battery or charger has the potential to fail, but investing in the higher brand name products decreases your chances of being involved in an accident.

Statistically, most battery-related incidents occur while a battery is being charged. The chargers are supposed to have chips which will terminate the charging process once the battery receives a full charge, but electronics have been known to fail. Therefore, it is safe battery practice to not charge a battery when you will not be able to observe its progress.

Do not charge batteries and leave the house. Do not charge batteries overnight when you will not be awake to observe an accident during charging. Protection chips have been known to fail. Li-Ion batteries have been known to vent with flames and even to explode; you wouldn't want this to occur while you were not around to take appropriate action. The odds of this happening are probably small, but if it should happen to you it will be a big deal for certain.

Take a few minutes to learn about the different types of batteries available to you for your mod by reading the following blogs. The most recommended chargers are made by Pila, Extar, and Nitecore Intellicharger.

BATTERY BASICS FOR MODS: IMR OR PROTECTED BATTERIES?

DEEPER UNDERSTANDING OF MOD BATTERIES

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