30ga Isn't that bad. It's Thin. But it Isn't that bad in SS. 32ga is where I Draw the line. It's just Too Thin for Me.
But wire is Cheap. So I would Try them Both.
26/28ga SS316L to 32ga
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30ga Isn't that bad. It's Thin. But it Isn't that bad in SS. 32ga is where I Draw the line. It's just Too Thin for Me.
But wire is Cheap. So I would Try them Both.
Yeah, I've got attys which struggle to trap even 28ga, hate to try 32 in them
Using 30 or 32ga as a twisted coil however makes more sense for me too 
Yeah, I've got attys which struggle to trap even 28ga, hate to try 32 in them
On Atomizers that have a hard time Trapping small wire, sometimes it Helps to Bend the Leg Back so it is Doubled where the screw tries to trap it.
It's hard to see sometimes, heh, and clipping it is strange. Maybe I need sharper clippers. Other than that, it's alright to work with.
Yea, I can agree with this. I just don't have the tools to make a proper contact coil.
I ended up twisting 2 strands together. 5 2.5mm spaced wraps made a 0.7Ω coil and flavor and vapor are basically doubled. The heat isn't though, so it's really nice.
That's what I ended up doin' and it's awesome. I recommend it to anyone who has 32ga SS and wants to try something.
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Heh, I wasted some, but I found what I like, so yea, it's all good.
I just don't understand how anyone uses 26ga SS in a tank like a Berserker because the coil is very slow to get to the temp it needs to get to. With the twisted 32ga it gets to the optimal temp like 4 times faster.
Ramp up time is determined by mass of the coil and Specific Heat Capacity. Given you are using the same metal, Specific Heat Capacity remains the same, but mass could be vastly different between the 2 coils under evaluation. If keeping the amount of wraps per coil the same, 26awg will always be higher in mass than 2x 32awg, therefore will always take longer to reach your preferred temperature if using the same given wattage.
Yea, it definitely has to do with heat capacity. It's all about airflow when it comes to the heat capacity limit. I mean, this is my first rebuildable MTL tank, so I had 26ga for the little Smok Spirals tank I have, but that has a ton more airflow compared to the Beserker tank, and the Spirals tank is known as a restricted DL tank, so..
I love the Berserker mini though. For the price, it's amazing.
Yea, I didn't think 26ga SS was massive until I put it in this Berserker. I build simple coils to fit the deck as intended. I wasn't even able to get a spaced 26ga coil over 0.4Ω and a 0.4Ω 26ga SS coil has a heat capacity of 35 mJ/K and if I built a contact coil with 8 wraps, the capacity jumps to 44. The twisted 32ga is at 15 mJ/K.
30 and 32G parallel coils were my exclusive go-to for a very long time.
Advantages of thin wire compared to thick:
-Reduced mass at equal surface area which results in...
-Faster heating/cool down
-Cooler vape, as its more efficient. Heats more liquid instead of air, less power loss at the legs, more vapor production at the same power.
-Broader power range. The coils start producing vapor at lower power and still can be cranked up if they are big enough.
I build DTL atties with this also. 80 Watts on a dual 32G build; no problem. You just need an atty with a big build deck, at least 3,5mm diamater (better 4mm) and LOTS of wraps.
For a more mtl style, I think thinner wire is pretty much a no brainer. Of course it´ll work better.
Advantages of thin wire compared to thick:
-Reduced mass at equal surface area which results in...
-Faster heating/cool down
-Cooler vape, as its more efficient. Heats more liquid instead of air, less power loss at the legs, more vapor production at the same power.
-Broader power range. The coils start producing vapor at lower power and still can be cranked up if they are big enough.
I build DTL atties with this also. 80 Watts on a dual 32G build; no problem. You just need an atty with a big build deck, at least 3,5mm diamater (better 4mm) and LOTS of wraps.
For a more mtl style, I think thinner wire is pretty much a no brainer. Of course it´ll work better.
Reading these posts and thinking, small wire and surface area using hard to wrap 30GA. I have problems wrapping 28G so I have been using mesh a fair bit which seems to give the flavor, fast ramp up and not so hot a vape as a small gauge coil. Problem is I like more flavor and less clouds, MTL style. I just wish somehow I could use mesh with a MTL atty. I am trying SS 150 mesh cut 4 x 16 mm on my Profile but how to get the reduced chamber of a MTL atty?
@Coolsiggy, I think that it could be done. It would need some creative thinking though and a penknife.
I have tried 5 x 16mm SS150 mesh which gave me 0.26 ohm using a Profie Unity RTA, next time maybe a 4 x 18mm strip. Achieving a high resistance of say 1.0 ohms would be difficult.
30 and 32ga wire isn't impossible to wrap and install and like most things the more you do it the easier it becomes to do.
For mtl and because I dislike slow ramp up and heat 30 and 32ga wire is my preferred and most often used. Dtl I generally use 28ga.
@Coolsiggy, I don't know offhand what mesh uses thin wire (high AWG) and has a small number of holes per inch. As that's the way to get higher ohms with mesh.
I have not calculated but suspect the mesh has greater surface area for a given mass/resistance and in my case easier to build on, especally on the kylin and profile decks. My dexterity sucks.
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