I'm sure it's just a wet dream for now, but can we expect to see one added to the permanent line of Super T products anytime soon?
26650 Simplicity?
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Fall is coming fast. Hopefully it won't be an automatic cease and they give a few months to cease. (if all this online sales does get banned that is, I personally think it will, I don't see any way around it)
David, think about opening a pre-order worse case scenario, if I already paid, it isn't like I am buying and you aren't selling.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...nning-online-sales-electronic-cigarettes.html
David, think about opening a pre-order worse case scenario, if I already paid, it isn't like I am buying and you aren't selling.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...nning-online-sales-electronic-cigarettes.html
Please try not to overreact to that story.Fall is coming fast. Hopefully it won't be an automatic cease and they give a few months to cease. (if all this online sales does get banned that is, I personally think it will, I don't see any way around it)
David, think about opening a pre-order worse case scenario, if I already paid, it isn't like I am buying and you aren't selling.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...nning-online-sales-electronic-cigarettes.html
Begin preparing to act.
I been over reacting since January. I been screaming this for months. I am stocked up on nic for 10 years or more, and got an underground source already if that runs out. Not trying to sound like a know it all, but Snork, it is going to happen. Hoping, sincerely hoping that mods aren't in on this. Crossing my fingers. Right now the term delivery device is in the wording. Now does that mean the mod itself, or just the atty and cartos, hmm not sure. Hoping that it is just atties and cartos, if that is the case, David will be okay.
You got me in panic mod Freckle.....Should I order some attys?
Custom HH.357 Cisco Spec Hybrid 510 Atomizer
Custom 357 Style: 510 Long Barrel
Custom 357 Color: Matte Black
Custom 357 Resistance: 3.0 ohm
Juice Blend: VG 100% Quantity: 30 @ $24.99 = $749.70
Panic if you want, but...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ays-todays-wall-st-journal-article-wrong.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ays-todays-wall-st-journal-article-wrong.html
they will crack down on nic first. ejuice vendors will have to get a license to handle it along with regulations for handling and dispensing it. FDA is already looking at labeling for warnings and information about contents. that is still a bit out on the horizon since it takes a while to get anything passed. I thought nic was only good for 3-4 years? a 26650 would be cool but i will have to get more batteries!lol
I promise you, I have gone into detail reading those laws and yes I do comprehend them. Read the last two sentences of what the FDA said.
I discovered last night after doing more research on the F&DCA that the definition of device includes all accessories, which means mods.
If you read FD&C Act Table of Contents and Chapters I and II: Short Title and Definitions Subchapter II sec 231 (h) and (rr) you will see the definition for tobacco product and device.
Then you go to the The Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act guidelines, http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/PLAW-111publ31/pdf/PLAW-111publ31.pdf you find that flavors and online sales along with marketing are not allowed. Since 2010 the definition of tobacco product has been ammended to include ecigs, though the FDA does not currrently regulate ecigs as tobacco product. Now go back to what Bill posted, read the last two sentences. In it you will find the FDA acknowledges they have the authority to regulate all tobacco product definitions, admits they currently do not regulate them, but they plan to regulate them all on the same standard.
Confusing yes very, but if you are willing to read between the lines, you will see it is about to happen. Hoping they give us a grace period!
I will add, that I am pushing CASAA links and of course that survey. I am not going to lay down, but I am not going to ignore the signs and not stock up. Fill out this survey if you haven't already, and share it also. http://blog.casaa.org/2013/08/call-to-action-please-participate-in.html
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Anyway before I cause a pandemonium!
How about that 26650? Hoping it is very soon! If not I will have to go to Snork's house and rob him of one of his shockwaves. (teasing of course, just teasing)
How about that 26650? Hoping it is very soon! If not I will have to go to Snork's house and rob him of one of his shockwaves.
(teasing of course, just teasing)
Anyway before I cause a pandemonium!
How about that 26650? Hoping it is very soon! If not I will have to go to Snork's house and rob him of one of his shockwaves.
Believe me, it's something I've considered beings that we all play so fast and loose with our private information. I have attack cats and booby traps, that's all you need to know.
Question asked and answered. Where was it heading after that?
There is no definition for a tobacco delivery device there. The definition of device is:
(h) The term device (except when used in paragraph (n) of this section and in sections 331(i), 343(f), 352(c), and 362(c) of this title) means an instrument, apparatus, implement, machine, contrivance, implant, in vitro reagent, or other similar or related article, including any component, part, or accessory, which is
(1) recognized in the official National Formulary, or the United States Pharmacopeia, or any supplement to them, (Doesn't apply to e-cigarettes)
(2) intended for use in the diagnosis of disease or other conditions, or
in the cure, mitigation, treatment, or prevention of disease, in man or other animals, or (Doesn't apply to e-cigarettes)
(3) intended to affect the structure or any function of the body of man or other animals, and (doesn't apply to e-cigarettes)
which does not achieve its primary intended purposes through chemical action within or on the body of man or other animals and which is not dependent upon being metabolized for the achievement of its primary intended purposes.
The flavorings mentioned in FSPTCA only apply to cigarette flavorings and there is no prohibition of online sales or advertising. The Act just states the FDA may address non-direct sales by requiring ID verification and could regulate advertising non-direct sales.
Well hi there!
Please convey my thanks to the many CASAA representatives who have taken the time to understand the issues and represent us in such a professional and compelling manner.
Hi! Sorry to just drop in like that - I see the thread was derailed a bit before I came along, lol! Just thought I'd try to help clarify things a bit.
We appreciate your thanks!
I think i'm going to use one of my 18 wheeler batteries (it's got 6 of them) if worse comes to worst instead of the big 26 Simplicity.
24 volts with a sub ohm atty should work just fine although i'll probably need a forklift to carry around the mod.
Damn FDA. And politics.
24 volts with a sub ohm atty should work just fine although i'll probably need a forklift to carry around the mod.
Damn FDA. And politics.
David could just sell a flashlight tube that just so happens to take a 26650 battery!
I'm not overly worried about the FDA. I expect they will tax nicotine and maybe add a few more hoops..
I'm not overly worried about the FDA. I expect they will tax nicotine and maybe add a few more hoops..
David could just sell a flashlight tube that just so happens to take a 26650 battery!
I'm not overly worried about the FDA. I expect they will tax nicotine and maybe add a few more hoops..
Could even make a LED topper with a 510 connection to make it a real flashlight!
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