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Just because you don't like my answer, doesn't mean it doesn't make sense, or is inaccurate. I guess I could have put "@ 5v" at the end of my statement to clarify.

The OP was asking about 5v, VV and 3.7v, stating that they were generally happy @ 3.7.

You can vary the wattage by changing the volts or ohms, correct?

LR gear that hits nicely @ 3.7 would be too much at 5v, and to get similar watts to his old setup, the 5v mod purchase would need attys and cartos set at a higher ohm.

With a VV setup, you have to make a generally more expensive purchase than a similarly equipped 3.7 mod, having to dial down for LR gear.

I have a VV mod. I don't use it. It works well, I just prefer my revolution 2.1 with CCV 1.7 cartos. Which would be too much @ 5v and a waste on a VV mod.

Most long time vapers would disagree with your conclusions, at least for the majority of vapers. You cannot get the same consistency or warm vapor from a 3.7 volt PV with LR attys as you can with a good 5 volt or VV model. And I would not want to be limited to just LR attys, which is what you are limited to with 3.7 volt models, unless you don't like warm vapor that provides good throat hit. And from my and others experience that I have talked with, LR attys just don't hold up as well as standard resistence attys.

And I don't know what VV model you have, but I doubt it is a Darwin or Provari. I've never heard of any owners of these two model retreating to a straight 3.7 volt model. If there are, they are an extreme minority, for a reason. It must be one of the lesser models. And with a good VV you can use any atty or carto regardless of the resistence, providing maximum flexibility and variety that you will never get with a 3.7v model.

Once the OP trys a good 5 volt model such as the GLV 2 or a good VV model such as the Darwin, the reviews from others who made this switch, support the strong guess, that he will no longer be satisfied with just 3.7 volt vaping. The biggest advantage to either of these options over a 3.7v model is consistency. As LR attys are used, their performance starts to suffer. That's not a problem on a good regulated VV model with "boost circuit" technology.
 
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-just my two cents.

If you can get the same current (ohms law) through the same atty. Then there is no difference. The other factor that
could explain the claim of a better vape with a 5V is that the attys are different, that somehow the material of the coil of a a higher resistance atty would give more pleasure.

I'm guessing the VVs are voltage regulators (not current regulators), meaning they maintain a set voltage.
I can see this helping if the battery starts to drop voltage, so it's a benefit of the VVs.
But if the atty increases resistance with time, the voltage will be the same. So you'll have to manually dial up the voltage as you vape.
 

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-.........But if the atty increases resistance with time, the voltage will be the same. So you'll have to manually dial up the voltage as you vape.

Attys decrease and increase resistence with use. But if you are using the power regulated, variable wattage Darwin, your point does not hold. The Darwin has technology that senses the change in atty's resistence and automatically adjusts the power to the atty to maintain consistency.
 

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I got a vv from madvapes a few days ago and I tried some of my carts at 5v and wow. But I really like 4.4 & 4.6. The only differecne I have found in raising the volt is a warmer vapor. I'm using dual coil carts 2 ohm. The vv mod box is 36.00 with out batteries or if you want you can get the kit for 18.00 and build it yourself. Took about 2.5 hours. I got 2 batteries and a charge on amazon for 14 shipped. You can go from 2.8-7.5 with this kit. 510 connection.
 

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I like VV. You may not. If you want to avoid buying several mods you may never use, look for a vapers club in your area. Attend some get togethers. People love to show off their mods and DIY juices. Most members will be more than willing to let you try their mod and their juice. Personally I always carry alcohol wipes and let folks try vaping my gear and get fresh opinions on my juices. Get an idea of what you like before you spend a lot of money on something.
 

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Doesn't make any difference how many Darwin's you own (or your buddy sells), you are wrong.
I'm vaping a VV mod right now, however the dial has never moved since the day I built it. I already knew what I like, and that is where it's set.
So from experience VV is not a magic wand, or the solution for everyone.

My personal suggestion would be for the OP to buy a little $10 5v PT and see if they even like 5v vaping before they consider dumping a lot of cash on something like a GLV.

Here is a $10 PT
5 VOLT USB PASS THROUGH (REQUIRES SUFFICIENT POWER SOURCE)

If my observations were just mine, you would be correct. But they are not. There are hundreds of posts from vapers who moved to 5 volt and VV vaping and found it was much better than vaping at 3.7v. And the myrid polls that found that 4.5v - 5.0v was the preferred power level also supports this conclusion. Your experience with some "unknown" VV model is not supported, just like your statement that I'm wrong.
 

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    Most long time vapers would disagree with your conclusions, at least for the majority of vapers. You cannot get the same consistency or warm vapor from a 3.7 volt PV with LR attys as you can with a good 5 volt or VV model.

    Once the OP trys a good 5 volt model such as the GLV 2 or a good VV model such as the Darwin, the reviews from others who made this switch, support the strong guess, that he will no longer be satisfied with just 3.7 volt vaping.

    Well I disagree once again. To begin with, "long time vapers" is an ambiguous term. Compared to what? Know anyone that has vaped for 20 years?
    Did you buy a different brand of cigarettes every time you went to the store? Or just like the rest of us, did you smoke the same brand day in and day out?
    Personal opinion of course, but in time, a person that vapes will evolve to that same point. They will just vape, and not even care about the latest & greatest that hits the market.
    You tend to forget that the vast majority of vapers use a little Volt, or 510, or eGo type device, and will never go beyond that because it satisfies their needs. Most will never post on this site, or even care that this place exists.

    Why do you think the vast majority of smokers opted for cigarettes instead of a pipe or cigars? Do you think that size and convenience plays a part in that? Why would we think that vaping, in time, will be any different? I would suggest that simplicity will win out with most people.

    If my observations were just mine, you would be correct. But they are not. There are hundreds of posts from vapers who moved to 5 volt and VV vaping and found it was much better than vaping at 3.7v.

    Yes there are hundreds of posts supporting what you say ............. by the same couple of dozen people.

    Now understand; I too have a VV and a 5v device, but where I disagree is they are not "better" they are only "different".
    Personally, I like to vape at 8 +/- 0.3watts, which is easily done at most any voltage I choose to use, including 3.7v. A Darwin is not the only way it can be done!
     
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    I've been on 3.7v with lr306 exclusively since the beginning of the year. Just got my first VV mod a couple months ago and since then, have seen a new light in vaping. The only way my 3.7v devices can even come close to my HV set up is when it has a fresh charge, but drops after just a few puffs. 3.7v with lr gear is still awesome and love priming on them.
     

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    Most people who have vaped for 2 or more years will tell you that 4.5-5v is the sweet spot.Take a poll and see for yourself.

    No --- most people with a VV who have vaped for 2 years or more will tell you that 4.5-5v is the sweet spot. Unfortunately that's less than 10% of those that vape.
    Also what does 4.5-5v really mean without specifying the resistance used? A 1.5ohm atty @5v would be a completely different experience from using a 3ohm carto.

    The reality is that most (but not all) will find their sweet spot @ 7-8watts, regardless of the voltage they choose to use.
    I like 5v vaping too, but not with a 2ohm carto or atty. (12watts)
     
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    Iv only been Vaping personally for just over 90 days. Iv dropped A LOT on gear trying things out. My first pv was a bb at both 3.7 and 6 volts. With in two weeks of Vaping I went with a vv unit as it keeps the volts from start to finish. Iv tried lr and Sr gear and find personally Sr at 4.3-4.7 is my sweet spot. Vv give you room to play as every juice iv tried has different taste at different volts. If I was to do it all over from the start I would go with a well built well known vv mod. I'm not going to say what I use daily as every one has there favorite mod but the battery drain was what killed it for me when I started with a none regulated mod. We all started this hobby/voyage to get off the analog. If it works for one but not the other is just like one man's brand was not another. Read reviews and try things out. I would recommend a vv unit not just for the vv part but the end volts at the end of the mod staying the same from start to finish. Just my penny's

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