Is it really that much better than an eGo which I think I've seen is around 3.1?
If it is, anyone have any suggestions? Needs to be cheap though
If it is, anyone have any suggestions? Needs to be cheap though
3.7v ?
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I am have no idea since I have never tried an Ego..BUT I have a PT that I think is supposed to be at about 3.7v and it puts out way better than my reg.510.
There is a Hello 016 that is supposed to be 3.8 OR HIGHER (can't remember what they said in that forum/review thread) AND it is supposed to be like the Ego only 1300mah (did I say that right?) LOL...any ways madvapes has the kits for $49.99 on sale right now....They came in 2 or 3 days ago. I just ordered mine tonight....(I am excited and I had to tell someone
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People in that forum are saying they go like 12 hours plus...
I finally gave in---I have 4 510 batteries that I kill in less than an hour (sometimes 30 minutes) and I am sick sick SICK of getting stuck when I am out fishing (or at the Casino) with ALL 4 batteries dead!
There is a Hello 016 that is supposed to be 3.8 OR HIGHER (can't remember what they said in that forum/review thread) AND it is supposed to be like the Ego only 1300mah (did I say that right?) LOL...any ways madvapes has the kits for $49.99 on sale right now....They came in 2 or 3 days ago. I just ordered mine tonight....(I am excited and I had to tell someone
)People in that forum are saying they go like 12 hours plus...
I finally gave in---I have 4 510 batteries that I kill in less than an hour (sometimes 30 minutes) and I am sick sick SICK of getting stuck when I am out fishing (or at the Casino) with ALL 4 batteries dead!
Is it really that much better than an eGo which I think I've seen is around 3.1?
If it is, anyone have any suggestions? Needs to be cheap though
IMO 3.7v isn't that much different than an eGo. It's MUCH better than a regular 510 battery though. Vapor production on a 3.7v mod is only slightly better. Hardly noticable to me with the exception of using an 18650 battery which kicks the eGo to the curb.
About the only real advantage of a 3.7v mod over an eGo is that the cost of replacement batteries is much lower.
Off topic: I'll be shipping your 510-808 adapter out tomorrow.
I had a 510 and got my Indulgence on Monday. So far, I notice a negligible difference between the output of my 510 and the Indulgence. I've even tested by taking a carto, hitting it on the 510 and then immediately moving it to the Indulgence with a fresh battery, and don't notice much of a difference.
My Lazer LPV3 at 3.7 (10440 batt, 2 to 3 hours) seems to produce more than my 510 and 808 batteries do. So much so that since I got my Lazers I don't use the two new 808 batts I just bought. They (I have a 510 and 808) produce almost as well as my 5v passthrough. for me. BTW, I use 808 and 510 cartos.
My e-cig pen pal (what? doesn't everyone have one of those??) made a box mod for me, it runs on a 3.7 v battery. This is my first experience with anything other than manual and auto 510 (or auto 306) batteries. I notice a bit more warmth to the vapor and a bit more vapor output. But the biggest difference is the battery life. I can use it all day...and I can't say that about a standard 510 battery. I still love my little auto batteries and use them often, but it's nice to have this as a back up...or to throw an atty on to test a new liquid (I'm a 510 carto junkie). And there are definitely times when I don't want to mess with charging/changing batteries and I use the box mod all day for those times.
My e-cig pen pal (what? doesn't everyone have one of those??) made a box mod for me, it runs on a 3.7 v battery. This is my first experience with anything other than manual and auto 510 (or auto 306) batteries. I notice a bit more warmth to the vapor and a bit more vapor output. But the biggest difference is the battery life. I can use it all day...and I can't say that about a standard 510 battery. I still love my little auto batteries and use them often, but it's nice to have this as a back up...or to throw an atty on to test a new liquid (I'm a 510 carto junkie). And there are definitely times when I don't want to mess with charging/changing batteries and I use the box mod all day for those times.
14500 and 10440 batts are charged up to 4.2V so in reality when you put on a freshly charged batt you are vaping 4.2V and driving the voltage down to 2.75V if they are protected. So that is why you have better vapor and TH when you use a mod. granted that when it goes way down might as well be steam instead of vapor...lol
I don't see a huge difference between 3.1V and 3.7V when using a standard atty....but say a LR atty I see a huge difference...
This can be best seen in the wattage produced..
Standard joye 510 atty at 3.1V is....4.18W
Standard joye 510 atty at 3.7V is ...5.95W
LR 510 atty (1.5Ω) at 3.1V is..........6.41W
LR 510 atty (1.5Ω) at 3.7V is..........9.13W
the 5V sweet spot that most people refer to is actually an expression of wattage with that "zone" being between 8-10W...so this is why people say that LR atties are "simulated" HV vaping because it puts the wattage square in the center of that 8-10W range..
Cheapest route would be to get a KR808 battery and an adapter to use a 510 atty on it (since the kr8 battery is a true 3.7V)
but best bang for your buck would be a LR atty on a 3.7V mod...
This can be best seen in the wattage produced..
Standard joye 510 atty at 3.1V is....4.18W
Standard joye 510 atty at 3.7V is ...5.95W
LR 510 atty (1.5Ω) at 3.1V is..........6.41W
LR 510 atty (1.5Ω) at 3.7V is..........9.13W
the 5V sweet spot that most people refer to is actually an expression of wattage with that "zone" being between 8-10W...so this is why people say that LR atties are "simulated" HV vaping because it puts the wattage square in the center of that 8-10W range..
Cheapest route would be to get a KR808 battery and an adapter to use a 510 atty on it (since the kr8 battery is a true 3.7V)
but best bang for your buck would be a LR atty on a 3.7V mod...
Hey Drozd, can you answer this in English, please? 
You're way over my head most of the time. 
And since we have you we don't need to learn all this... we can just keep asking you.
I have a new box mod thanks to our wonderful nephilim and it takes 2 14500 batteries. What would be the best atty or carto to use with this? It has a 510 connector but I also have a 901 and an adapter.
You're way over my head most of the time. And since we have you we don't need to learn all this... we can just keep asking you. I have a new box mod thanks to our wonderful nephilim and it takes 2 14500 batteries. What would be the best atty or carto to use with this? It has a 510 connector but I also have a 901 and an adapter.
I'm assuming the 2 14500 batteries are parallel to just double the mAh and not put out 7.4V regulated down to 5V...Hey Drozd, can you answer this in English, please?
I have a new box mod thanks to our wonderful nephilim and it takes 2 14500 batteries. What would be the best atty or carto to use with this? It has a 510 connector but I also have a 901 and an adapter.
that being the case I wouldn't run a 510 or a LR on it....I mean you could but it wouldn't be the best for the batteries in the long run.. probably turbo cartomizers would be good, or any atty with a resistance over 3Ω or so...(that is until the IMR 14500 high drains come out (one place does have them already...but I havent heard great things about the manufacturer they use) those would change that significantly...
nope her box is regulated down to 5v and I agree with you completely, I found that cartos can totally take the beating but sometimes burn the lip. therefor I use the cap of an 801 atty to cover the carto. DO NOT USE LR ATTYS WITH IT!!!!!
Ahh...that's critical info there....yeah no LR atties...and yeah cartos around 3Ω+ I like the best for 5-6V (I'm partial to the vapornine turbos)...but of course YMMV
I'm not super stoked about the idea of what's essentially stacked 14500s but I haven't run that configuration to really say too much about it...just that at 5V a 3.1 carto has an amp draw of about 1.61A..joye 510 about 2.17A....slb 510 about 1.56A.......and the better of the 14500s (the aw 14500) has a max drain rate of 1.5A.....again I'd like the IMR high drain 14500 batteries for this
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Thanks guys!!! Is it okay to use a 901 adapter and atty? I only have cheapo 510 and 808 cartos, does it matter which I use? I don't want to do anything to ruin my new mod, even though neph made it dog proof... "GoodDog proof" he said. LOL
first when I say that I prefer the vapornine cartos....well they work like premium cartos from other companies...but without lowering the resistance...standard cartos were classically at 3Ω...and the turbos are 3.1Ω so theres not that big of a difference really..
901s would work well too...
it's not that they'd ruin your mod at all..it's more that the more you overstress the battery the more overall damage you'll do to the battery and the sooner you may have to replace the battery to keep it at peak performance..
kinda like a stock battery...it's fine at first for a while..and then it seems like it's getting weaker over time and you have to start charging it more often...that's due to us overstressing the battery..same thing applies here...only which atty we choose to use varries how much we stress or overstress the battery.. and our choice in battery also determines the max drain of the battery..
first lets take two 3 batteries..the AW 14500 (750mAh) and the ultrafire 14500 (900mAh) and the BDL IMR14500 (600mAh)
max drain rates
Ultrafires.....1.35A
AW............1.5A
BDL............3A (these are high drains)
now you got the amp draw of different atties at 5V
joye 510.............2.17A
standard carto.....1.67A
turbo carto.........1.61A
SLB 510.............1.56A
801 ..................1.43A
901...................1.35A
and then you have the wattage produced (heat) at 5V
joye 510............10.87W
standard carto....8.33W
turbo carto........8.06W
slb 510.............7.81W
801..................7.14W
901..................6.76W
Lots of numbers and blah blah right?... the long and short of it is that as you move up in resistance on your cartos and atties the less stress you're going to do to your batteries (overall life) but the cooler your vapes going to get...which on delicate or complex flavors can be a good thing...as you'll maintain flavor in trade off for a bit more vapor production...
At the same time..ultrafires just about any atty you run on them is going to overstress them...the AW anything with a lower resistance than an 801 is going to overstress them...so the question is by how much...and can you deal with getting cheaper batteries and replacing them more often (because yeah you can get 4 of the ultrafires for the same price as 2 of the AW)...and depending on which atty or carto you're not going to get the "true" all out performance you would with the high drains...and the better the battery the longer it'll last overall but the shorter it'll last between charges..
so it's not that any atty or carto is goin to ruin the mod...your chice in which battery you use and which atty or carto...will change the experience and what you want out of it...ad the only person who can really answer that is you...best we can do is hopefully explan in an understandable way how they relate to each other...
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