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Curious if it's ok for my Vamo 5. What do you think?
Curious if it's ok for my Vamo 5. What do you think?
3400 mah 18650 Panasonic Orbtronic Good?
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Mike, since your in Japan, you might want to try http://www.vapejp.com they have some good batteries that will work. Im having some delivered now for me.
Read this thread on batteries very informative: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/baditude/4848-9-battery-basics-mods-imr-protected.html
Read this thread on batteries very informative: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/baditude/4848-9-battery-basics-mods-imr-protected.html
Some vapers will argue that they use this battery in their mods and they get good results.
However, these are a protected hybrid IMR/ICR battery with their chemistry heavily weighted to the ICR side of fence. They are not considered a high drain battery, which will allow a regulated mod (like your Vamo) to perform at its optimal performance level. One might as well consider this battery an ICR battery, best suited for low drain applications such as a flashlight. If you notice, the vendor description says "for high power flashlights".
Regulated mods use pulse width modulation in their buck boost circuitry to create higher voltage/wattage from a fixed output 3.7 volt battery. This circuitry requires a high drain battery with amp limits in the 10 amp range. The above batteries have only a 6.8 amp limit. They may "work" and be "safe" in a regulated mod, but due to their limitations of high internal resistance and lower amp limit they will not allow your regulated mod to perform as the manufacturer intended it to.
Technical: Why High Drain Batteries?
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I would recommend purchasing some authentic AW 18650 IMR 2000mAh batteries from an authorized vendor.
Another possible alternative for a higher mAh rating would be either the Panasonic/Orbtronic NCR18650PD 2900mAh or NCR18650PF 2900mAh (unprotected versions).
Purchasing batteries from Amazon runs the risk of buying counterfeit batteries, an occurance which is being seen more often these days.
Battery Basics for Mods: IMR or Protected ICR?
However, these are a protected hybrid IMR/ICR battery with their chemistry heavily weighted to the ICR side of fence. They are not considered a high drain battery, which will allow a regulated mod (like your Vamo) to perform at its optimal performance level. One might as well consider this battery an ICR battery, best suited for low drain applications such as a flashlight. If you notice, the vendor description says "for high power flashlights".
Regulated mods use pulse width modulation in their buck boost circuitry to create higher voltage/wattage from a fixed output 3.7 volt battery. This circuitry requires a high drain battery with amp limits in the 10 amp range. The above batteries have only a 6.8 amp limit. They may "work" and be "safe" in a regulated mod, but due to their limitations of high internal resistance and lower amp limit they will not allow your regulated mod to perform as the manufacturer intended it to.
Technical: Why High Drain Batteries?
Question for the Tech Engineers at Provape
I would recommend purchasing some authentic AW 18650 IMR 2000mAh batteries from an authorized vendor.
Another possible alternative for a higher mAh rating would be either the Panasonic/Orbtronic NCR18650PD 2900mAh or NCR18650PF 2900mAh (unprotected versions).
Purchasing batteries from Amazon runs the risk of buying counterfeit batteries, an occurance which is being seen more often these days.
Battery Basics for Mods: IMR or Protected ICR?
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I will vouch for the fact that those work VERY well in DNA20 mods and have positively awesome capacity in there.
This battery is working really well so far. I've been vaping on it for a couple days at 3.4v or so 1.8ohm
Good to hear. It's working because you are using voltage less than 3.7 volts and well within the amp limit of the battery. If you were using higher voltages it could put a strain on the battery and you might not enjoy the full benefits of your Vamo.
Good to hear. It's working because you are using voltage less than 3.7 volts and well within the amp limit of the battery. If you were using higher voltages it could put a strain on the battery and you might not enjoy the full benefits of your Vamo.
That is the key to using the NCR 18650B. They work great in a regulated mod, firing standard resistance clearos in the 5 to 6 watt range.
I agree that they are not good for pulling the max 15 watts that a vamo is capable of, especially if the battery is not fully charged.
A nearly depleted NCR 18650B asked to fire 15 watts on a 1.8 ohm load is going to be over that battery's current rating.
I don't know if a vamo will even try to pull that kind of current out of a battery however. I use the 18650B in my eVic. It came with it.
Low wattage vaping they are suited for. Huge current, not so much.
The battery I would go to for a Vamo, SID, Zmax or any other 15 watt regulated mod would be the NCR 18650PF. it is a 2900mAh, 10a bat that works really well and lasts just as long as a 3400 mAh 18650B in less than demanding environments (edit: I mean using the 18650B in less than demanding vaping environments, low power only).
That 3400 mAh rating is a bit of hocus pocus anyway as it is attained by running the 18650B to voltages way below a voltage where a regulated mod is going to shut down anyway.
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According to the battery specs, it should be okay since they say the overamp protection kicks in at 10 to 12A, and the Vamo is current limited to 5A. As others have mentioned, there are other batteries that are better designed for high current draw and they are cheaper anyway.
However, I already own 4 3400 orbtronic protected cells for use in flashlights, in addition to a number of efest and panasonic unprotected cells for use in vapers. Since I typically build my mods to use less than 5A, I wouldn't mind being able to use the orbtronics in a pinch. My problem is I have never seen a mod which could accommodate the width of the orbtronic 3400mah protected cells.
However, I already own 4 3400 orbtronic protected cells for use in flashlights, in addition to a number of efest and panasonic unprotected cells for use in vapers. Since I typically build my mods to use less than 5A, I wouldn't mind being able to use the orbtronics in a pinch. My problem is I have never seen a mod which could accommodate the width of the orbtronic 3400mah protected cells.
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