.4 ohm parallel coil help?

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Hi I ordered a hana modz dna 30 clone and I am wanting to build a parallel coil on it like what rip tripper built in his video. The only thing is his parallel coil was running at .25. Unfortunately the cloupor stated that their hana clones are not supposed to go below .4 ohms. Could someone tell me how I should build my parallel coil to .4 ohms? I have seen these mods being used at .2 ohms and they worked just fine but I am worried it would eventually mess the mod up over time.
 

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Nataani said: Parallel coils are not the same thing as dual coils guys. A parallel coil is two pieces of wire right next to each other wrapped into a single coil. Dual coils are two seperate coils attached to the same atomizer.

For a 0.4 parallel:
2x 26 awg kanthal A-1
5 wraps
3 mm diameter

Or

2x 28 awg kanthal A-1
3 wraps
3 mm diameter

Parallel coils are exactly what dual coils are and two wicks are in use in the same wiring configuration. What you are speaking of is a dual coil wound in a parallel wrap with one wick. Maybe the terminology needs to be further delineated. Parallel usually refers to the way they are connected in a circuit. Both are electrically identical from what I see. It's the meshing of the two wires that changes the way they work mechanically.

What makes traditional dual coils work more efficiently is the use of TWO wicks to feed each individual parallel coil. From what I see, your version feeds two intertwined coils from one wick. I see the benefit, but also see the limitations of one wick needing to provide the necessary juice flow.
 
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    Parallel Coil:
    http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img577/2251/a3a0.jpg

    See? Single Coil, using two wires.

    Dual Coil:
    http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/07/a7ave7u3.jpg

    Two Seperate Coils, Using a single wire per coil.



    This is the generally accepted definition of Parallel Coil and Dual Coil. How you wick the coil does not change the name of the coil.

    This is speaking to vaping only. Coil builds for RBAs. It has nothing to do with electronics or other types of coils used in any other..anything. this is probably where the confusion is. Parallel Coils, IN VAPING, has nothing to do with the current, or how its connected to the current. It speaks to two wires being used, next to each other(parallel), to form one single coil.



    To the OP: You want higher resistance, use more wraps, or higher resistance wire. No offence, but if you don't know this, you shouldn't be building coils.
     
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    Rt has reviewed a lot of different builds. It would help if we had a clue as to which one you want to try.
    There are a lot of different ways to wrap a coil, why restrict yourself to only one way. You will never know which build you like best if you only try one.

    I would note however that while RT reviews different builds, most are not what he likes to vape. He likes a single coil build.
     

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    Parallel Coil:
    http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img577/2251/a3a0.jpg

    See? Single Coil, using two wires.

    Dual Coil:
    http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/07/a7ave7u3.jpg

    Two Seperate Coils, Using a single wire per coil.



    This is the generally accepted definition of Parallel Coil and Dual Coil. How you wick the coil does not change the name of the coil.

    This is speaking to vaping only. Coil builds for RBAs. It has nothing to do with electronics or other types of coils used in any other..anything. this is probably where the confusion is. Parallel Coils, IN VAPING, has nothing to do with the current, or how its connected to the current. It speaks to two wires being used, next to each other(parallel), to form one single coil.



    To the OP: You want higher resistance, use more wraps, or higher resistance wire. No offence, but if you don't know this, you shouldn't be building coils.

    Electrically, both are the same. I get it that there's a physical difference in construction and deployment of the two and I see the reason one is called parallel and the other is called dual.

    The OP seemed to be over his head in the tech. Anyone building .4 ohm coils needs to understand the ramifications of a mistake, especially if they are using a mech. He was using a DNA clone and that should have overcurrent protection. I'd just hate to see anyone become a "watch this" mistake without exploring the theory behind sub ohm vaping. It's better to initiate a conversation than have someone create a dangerous situation and later say, "Why didn't you tell me?".
     
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    Parallel Coil:
    http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img577/2251/a3a0.jpg

    See? Single Coil, using two wires.

    Dual Coil:
    http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/07/a7ave7u3.jpg

    Two Seperate Coils, Using a single wire per coil.



    This is the generally accepted definition of Parallel Coil and Dual Coil. How you wick the coil does not change the name of the coil.

    This is speaking to vaping only. Coil builds for RBAs. It has nothing to do with electronics or other types of coils used in any other..anything. this is probably where the confusion is. Parallel Coils, IN VAPING, has nothing to do with the current, or how its connected to the current. It speaks to two wires being used, next to each other(parallel), to form one single coil.



    To the OP: You want higher resistance, use more wraps, or higher resistance wire. No offence, but if you don't know this, you shouldn't be building coils.

    Well, dual coils could be wired in series or parallel, which have very different results. If "one coil using two wires" is the generally accepted definition of "parallel coils" (which I haven't seen as a definition), THAT is imprecise.

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    JmanEspresso

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    LOTS of things in vaping are imprecise, yet people continue on using the words "they like".

    I know what we call a Parallel coil, is not what anybody outside of vaping would call a Parallel Coil. But, thats vaping.

    How about my favorite, "Steeping". Lets "Steep" our eliquid. Couldnt be more wrong of a term, nothing about the process has anything to do with steeping anything, yet the whole industry calls it that.


    Right or wrong, if you ask somebody to build you a Parallel Coil, what you are going to get is what I linked. A single coil built using two seperate piece of wire. If you ask for a dual coil, you are going to get two seperate coils, each made with a single piece of wire, and they're going to be wired to the atomizer how its shown in the picture. Anybody who builds coils and has some knowledge about them, up to a builder working in a vapeshop, is going to give you what I showed. Im not saying its the correct terms, Im saying in the world of vaping rebuildable atomizers, THIS is the definition of a Parallel coil and a Dual Coil. Why? Probably because some vapers think they are the first people in the world to use Kanthal wire to make a resistance coil.
     

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    Parallel Coil:
    http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img577/2251/a3a0.jpg

    See? Single Coil, using two wires.

    Dual Coil:
    http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/07/a7ave7u3.jpg

    Two Seperate Coils, Using a single wire per coil.



    This is the generally accepted definition of Parallel Coil and Dual Coil. How you wick the coil does not change the name of the coil.

    This is speaking to vaping only. Coil builds for RBAs. It has nothing to do with electronics or other types of coils used in any other..anything. this is probably where the confusion is. Parallel Coils, IN VAPING, has nothing to do with the current, or how its connected to the current. It speaks to two wires being used, next to each other(parallel), to form one single coil.



    To the OP: You want higher resistance, use more wraps, or higher resistance wire. No offence, but if you don't know this, you shouldn't be building coils.

    see the second pick you posted, if you made that a quad coil with the setup it has but with a extra coil on top of the two there already would it be a quad parallel coil. also how would you know how to set it up for the requied ohms. such as a duel coil you would build each coil double the targeted ohms as its halfed, what way would it need laid out to provide a certain ohm.
     
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