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I have lived through volcanic eruption, earthquakes, hurricanes but not a tornado and hope I never do. That is my biggest fear and where am I moving to....near the recent tornado in Ky. Yikes

All you have to do is remember that they really have no season. More common in some months than others, but can happen any time. Pay attention to the weather, and get in the basement when there’s a warning.

And don’t dawdle. If you hear warning, you go now. They move fast and unpredictably, and if there’s one, there can quickly be more that spawn.
 

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My sister says that about folding clothes. She is the only person I've ever seen who enjoys laundry day.
And, she makes the most amazing fried chicken. She knows all of my deceased mother's recipes and I swear she makes all of them better.

A little added tidbit, I don't think Jennifer Aniston is attractive at all. She looks just like my sister.
If this is the case I suspect your opinion is a minority one.
 

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My sister says that about folding clothes. She is the only person I've ever seen who enjoys laundry day.
And, she makes the most amazing fried chicken. She knows all of my deceased mother's recipes and I swear she makes all of them better.

A little added tidbit, I don't think Jennifer Aniston is attractive at all. She looks just like my sister.
I like to iron,,, always have,, after ike we lived in 9x13 storage room off the garage for 6months+/-,, yes I ironed our clothes
 

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I have lived through volcanic eruption, earthquakes, hurricanes but not a tornado and hope I never do. That is my biggest fear and where am I moving to....near the recent tornado in Ky. Yikes
been through a few tornadoes, (grew up in Okla) ,,, rather have hurricane, tornadoes just fall from the sky,,, hurricane called ahead to announce their arrival.
 

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Land that is cheap and unpopulated because it’s dangerous to live on gets bought by a developer who populates it and runs away with the money before everyone there is devastated by his handiwork. Government has to step in and spend multiple times more money saving lives where it can. Government creates a program to keep people from building in dangerous areas. Developers sabotage it and keep killing people for money. Government makes the program into a permanent quasi-welfare system that keeps rebuilding houses after they are destroyed because it’s better than letting people die, and they can’t stop the developers from keeping them from solving the actual problem. The right calls it welfare, the left calls it corporate welfare. They’re both correct, the developers are still getting rich killing people and the people are still dying. At least it’s fewer of them. I guess. Me? I bought on high ground.

All that may be true more often than not, but it does not apply to this small bedroom community. St G, Washington, Sta Clara and Ivins all together was only around 40K residents during the year in those days, and they were ran more by the influential residents there than the local governments (although some of my friends did run for and became the local government in Wa and I). The only industries there included tourism as the jump off point to many National Parks, Reserves, etc in UT, CO, NM, AZ and NV; the snowbirds who came there from the deep frozen north to spend their winter there; and the residential building industry that a lions share of was for those snowbirds who wanted to move there permanently. While some starter homes in outlaying areas for the blue collar workers did sell for far less, there were many homes well up into the multi millions. Those along the SC that a couple of my friends bought were around $300K-350K. So those homes were not built on what was deemed as cheap dangerous ground by most folks there because of the history of that particular river that in many places you could jump across most of the year every year. History... it had only had one other major flood, far more serious than this one, and that one was from late 1861 into 1862 when the entire SW US was under a deluge of excess rain for nearly a month and a half. Note the last water storage reservoir on the Sta Clara river that caught the snow pack from the Pine Valley Mountains for drinking water (Gunlock) only released excess run off in the spring), the rest of the year it was a small tame stream... and some drought years only a tickle of water in it. I even saw Virgin River that was normally dozens of times the size of the SC with nothing but a trickle in it for 2-3 years.
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All that may be true more often than not, but it does not apply to this small bedroom community. St G, Washington, Sta Clara and Ivins all together was only around 40K residents during the year in those days, and they were ran more by the influential residents there than the local governments (although some of my friends did run for and became the local government in Wa and I). The only industries there included tourism as the jump off point to many National Parks, Reserves, etc in UT, CO, NM, AZ and NV; the snowbirds who came there from the deep frozen north to spend their winter there; and the residential building industry that a lions share of was for those snowbirds who wanted to move there permanently. While some starter homes in outlaying areas for the blue collar workers did sell for far less, there were many homes well up into the multi millions. Those along the SC that a couple of my friends bought were around $300K-350K. So those homes were not built on what was deemed as cheap dangerous ground by most folks there because of the history of that particular river that in many places you could jump across most of the year every year. History... it had only had one other major flood, far more serious than this one, and that one was from late 1861 into 1862 when the entire SW US was under a deluge of excess rain for nearly a month and a half. Note the last water storage reservoir on the Sta Clara river that caught the snow pack from the Pine Valley Mountains for drinking water (Gunlock) only released excess run off in the spring), the rest of the year it was a small tame stream... and some drought years only a tickle of water in it. I even saw Virgin River that was normally dozens of times the size of the SC with nothing but a trickle in it for 2-3 years.
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If it flooded once it may do it again. My dad bought a lot next to a river in Fargo ND to build on at my mother’insistance. He was against it. He used his influence at the USDA to get flood data from the biggest known flood, a bit before 1900. It used the best technology available at the time: wet plate black and white photographs taken from a hot air balloon.
The area was visible but just barely, and not all of it. He bought the lot and trucked in 14 full 2 tons full of dirt, and spread it around using a lawn tractor with a dozer blade on the front. Gave himself pitcher’s thumb activating it. The foundation of the house was a single full pour of hydrolic concrete and it had double redundant triple size sump pumps.
It worked.
How do I know? Because a few years ago the red river had a record flood. I looked up the house owner online and called them to ask if their basement was dry. (My dad was a scientist and in a way it was his last running experiment. I was feeling maudlin)
Theirs was the only one that was. They later put up a .... at rather massive government expense to protect the housing development.

Is it possible to develop housing in areas with flooding history? Yes. It just isn’t quite as profitable, so developers don’t. They run away and let others fix their mess.
 
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I even saw Virgin River that was normally dozens of times the size of the SC with nothing but a trickle in it for 2-3 years.
I remember my first visit to Zion NP. I asked one of the park rangers why they called it the Virgin River. "Out east, we'd call that a creek, at best". He did mention that it swells a bit at times. :laugh:
 

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I feel lucky. The closest thing we have to a natural disaster is the Chicago Bears.
There’s a pretty good audio simulation when the “L” goes by above you though. Also there gigantic cheap and delicious street food, which brings us back to sudden toilet paper requirements again
 
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