510 – Failed to fulfill my expectations.

[digital600]

So, my first e cig was the 510 titan from totallywicked & it’s horrible. The battery life sucks, vapor output is lacking, and pre-filled cartridges only last me 1 to 2 hours.

What are my options now? I’m looking for manual battery, awesome vapor output, and decent battery life. It also would be nice if the pre-filled cartridges lasted longer than 2 hours.

Do I get the ego or the 510-T?
Any suggestions will be appreciated.

 

[Michael Curry]

Switching to a manual battery isn't a magic bullet. The battery life won't change. To get more battery life, you need a bigger battery. It's that simple.

Vapor quantity can be anything from the juice to the technique. Or a combination of factors. Forget the pre-filled carts tho. Try a dual coil carto on an eGo battery with some 80/20 juice.

This, unfortunately, is one of the downsides of internet buying. All too often, you don't know exactly what you're getting and end up disappointed.

 

[classwife]

Welcome to ECF !!

Battery life is lacking on the 510, maybe 2 hours...

I still get mine out to run them through...and I can get nice vapor from them, it is a technique to learn...
longer slower draws...give the filler a chance to wick the liquid down between draws...

I use a liquid mixed at 70/30.

You can also buy liquid to refill your carts...and no way can I get 1-2 hours from a single cart filling ! I am re-filling way before that !

 

[dormouse]

510-T would have the same battery life and hold less juice than a 510 cartomizer

Did you even try cartomizers? Most people don't use the atomizer and cartridge. Boge cartomizers are most popular and slim 510 has to use the standard resistance. Only fat battery models and mods can use the hotter LR ones

You can get longer 510's - 510 mega xl batteries - 60-70% more charge than standard 510 but about 128mm long with a cartomizer. And I recommend manuals. Manuals do not give longer charge, length and girth gives longer charge. Manual 510's have a totally sealed threaded end so they won't be damaged or killed by juice leaks, manuals make it easier to get a good hit, and they won't turn on accidentally from wind or vibration.

If you are hot to try 510-T, you can buy a 510-T atty and 510-T tanks and try them on th 510 you already have. They are sold for and work on any 510 battery.

To get more charge than that and the option of using the hotter LR atomizers and cartomizers (which do use charge up faster) you have to go to a fat battery like Ego 510 w/ 650mah+ (and I recommend Joye brand or Janty brand only of you want a real Ego - some clones are inferior. If you want a clone, then Riva 510). Or you could go to a mod.

 

[tj99959]

The major difference with a larger bat (besides going longer between charges) is that they open the door to a large array of products that you simple can't use, or shouldn't, on the smaller bats like the 510 bat.

This being the biggy that you will probably use
BLANK BOGE 2.0 OHM LOW RESISTANCE 510 CARTOMIZERS (BLACK)

Mmmm, thinks Dormouse beat me to it

 

[moonsbabe]

Get e-go 900 or 1000mah battery and an echo-e cartomizer and you would be good to go for about 5 or 6 hours!

 

[wv2win]

The next step up would be an eGo/Riva sized (small slim cigar size) PV. A much better alternative to those two but in the same category would be the E-Power. It comes with a 1050 mAh battery. The big difference is the cost of the batteries. The eGo/Riva batteries are proprietary and cost $12-$20 each. The E-Power batteries are non-proprietary (can buy them many places) and cost $4 each. Plus the E-Power batteries last about 5 times longer before needing to buy new ones.

If you want even better warmth and throat hit to go along with long battery life, then you should consider either a good 5 volt PV such as the GLV2 or a good variable volt PV such as the Darwin.

E-Power:

e-Power

Electronic Cigarette - Starter Kits - E-Power

 

[Chief---P-V-Puffer--]

There is a learning curve with the 510 atty. I went through it when I first started. After I got it down I loved it. as for better battery lif I suggest an ego type batt, they last me all day. liberty flights has riva kits for around $30 with 2 batts, charger and either atty's or cartomizer's your choice.

 

[WalksWithWiFi]

owning an e-power, i can say it is an okay unit, but if i had to do it again, going from eGo batts to an upgrade, i would have just blown my load and got a buzz pro-
which is my new next step.
The E-power is okay...but the battery size of 14650 is bizarre and doesn't handle higher currents well....also, the button, the threading, and the "chroming" on the switch are all cheap.
that said, if you are not looking to do a large purchase like the buzz pro, ego and riva kits are pretty cheap and will give you more battery life.

 

[byggd]

I was in the same boat so I went to eGo 1000MAH bats. Tanks vape well but have leaking issues. I found the wick type cartos work the best for me and gotvapes just released the FLüXOMIZER™ DeLuXe Cartos said to be un-breakable. I haven't tried them yet but have some on order. My wife on the other hand likes the auto bats and the bigest ive found are 280 MAH (I think) so she has to put up with changing bats a couple times a day.

 

[digital600]

WOW! Impressed with the number of reply’s!

Do I need to stay away from the ego tank system?
I did try to refill some 510 blank cartridges & cartomizers but it was a complete utter failure. Cartridges was time consuming & did not last long. Cartomizers was horriable- all I got was this nasty burn metallic taste.

The only thing bad about the ego is the expensive consumables. Any suggestions on where to shop for the consumable?

 

[byggd]

If you get the eGo "soft top" tanks they seal much better. You can also buy just the soft tops for both the "A" and "B" tanks separately.

 

[WalksWithWiFi]

yeah, well....you will hear differing views, because the ego "tanks" treat people differently...
having been through the song and dance that is the ego-t(or tornado-tank) here is my viewpoint.
Pros:
-its convenient in the sense that it is easy to fill

Cons:
-it leaks
-the atties are kinda pricier than typical atties
-not easy to drip with said atties(without modification it could be almost impossible)
-you lose a lot of taste
-the atties seem to crap out faster imo

That said, if you can get a good carto, like a boge lr(2.0) and get used to the filling, you cant beat the taste imo unless you are dripping, which can be done with standard 510 atties

also, a plug for liberty flights as a good online retailer of the consumables, good price with the 20% off discount and their riva kits are fairly priced.

 

[Boodle]

Might want to hold off on the tanks for a bit. You're already frustrated with your PV. Some love them but the fiddle-factor is high. There are scads of leak complaints. The idea of a tank PV is very tempting.

For price and performance I don't know of a better PV than Kgo out there right now (not in the Mod category). It's an Ego clone with more voltage 3.7-4.2 instead of Egos 3.2 (BIG diff) and higher MAh 1100 (battery lasts longer). With a low resistance cartomizer or atomizer (1.5ohm) the Kgo delivers a mod-like experience. They're 39.99 to 44.99 for a kit depending on the vendor. HoosierEcigSupply and BreezeSmokes sells them. When family/friends ask about my PVs and decide to switch I send them for a Kgo and LR cartomizers.

Ego PassThroughs are nice for a backup. It's a regular PV (900 mAh I believe) that has a connector on the bottom to charge while vaping. It's nice to know you have a fully charged battery all the time. If you vape at your desk it's a nice addition for about $20. That and a Kgo and a noob is vaping like a pro in no time imo. YMMV. Good luck on your decision. You can't go wrong with a Kgo, Ego or Riva.

 

[dormouse]

Ego can use the same consumables as 510 (510 attys and cartos)

Or you can use the fat tube atomizers, some of which have a built-in cone. Or tank atomizers and tanks.

What expensive consumables are you talking about? Tanks? You'll be refilling those (with a syringe?) You know a lot of people have issue with those (lack of flavor and leaking)? So if you buy an Ego-T you may end up using cartomizers too.

BTW - I love Boge cartomizers. I get 4-7 good days out of a carto and can often get 10 or more out of a Boge. If I alternate a pair of cartos that is 1-3 weeks. I think it's best to learn on standard resistance ones before attempting LR ones that singe more easily.

How I fill a cartomizer (Vapor4Life for KR8 or Boge 510 for 510 which are all soft-cap w/ no inner seals and defined central air channel)

I use thin (20% or less VG) liquid or Vapor4Life WOW liquids, preferably clear liquids w/ no sediment

Filling a blank carto - I pop off the soft cap (unbent paperclip carefully in the mouth hole, not catching any wires or stuffing!). I hold some tissue against the threaded end hole. I tilt the carto and slowly drip 18 drops onto the inner wall of the carto so it slides down into the stuffing while I rotate the carto. (18 drops per ml of capacity and I am using 1ml cartos) Then I wait 15 seconds or so then I drip however many more drops the stuffing wants to soak up. Then I do clean-up. If it is leaking, I clean that up. Then I tilt the open end down into the tissue and puff hard a few times into the threaded end to clear any juice out of the central air channel (I want to see light through there). If it looks too wet above the stuffing, I gently touch a bit of tissue to the stuffing (otherwise that liquid will be gurgling or spitting in my mouth). Then since this was a fresh fill of a blank, I now let it settle. I lay the carto on different sides for 15-20 minutes. Then it should be ready to vape. If you use thicker juices than me, then you may need to let it settle longer.

As I am vaping - if the vapor gets a bit light or a bit dry or tastes bit off or the carto is getting unusually warm, I will take the carto off the battery, open it, add 6-8 drops or whatever it seems to want (I will either hold a bit of tissue against the threaded end hole just in case, or skimp on how many drops I add to make sure I avoid drips if I have no tissue). I check to make sure the threaded end is dry, give it a couple of puffs into the threaded end to make sure the air channel is clear, and continue to vape.

Note - it is easy for me to "open" my main cartos for adding juice because I replace the white end cap with a plastic or delrin drip tip (I get them at LiteCigUSA.net). So I can easily pull that out with my fingers when I add juice and it keeps my lips cool if the carto is hot.

 

[byggd]

like a boge lr(2.0)

I'm using these now and they do work well but only hold about 1/2 day vaping 4 me. The units with no filler last much longer.

 

[Anima]

Good deal on cartos is from Crystal Clear Vaping. 15 Boge cartos for $20 (free shipping) + syringe and 2 drip tips. If you're getting a burnt taste from the carto, it's user error. There's a bit of a learning curve, but worth it. Dormouse gives good advice.

 

[byggd]

I tilt the carto and slowly drip 18 drops onto the inner wall of the carto so it slides down into the stuffing while I rotate the carto.

I use this method to refill but for the first fill I like the condom method.

 

[Boodle]

Filling a blank carto - I pop off the soft cap (unbent paperclip carefully in the mouth hole, not catching any wires or stuffing!). I hold some tissue against the threaded end hole. I tilt the carto and slowly drip 18 drops onto the inner wall of the carto so it slides down into the stuffing while I rotate the carto. (18 drops per ml of capacity and I am using 1ml cartos) Then I wait 15 seconds or so then I drip however many more drops the stuffing wants to soak up. Then I do clean-up. If it is leaking, I clean that up. Then I tilt the open end down into the tissue and puff hard a few times into the threaded end to clear any juice out of the central air channel (I want to see light through there). If it looks too wet above the stuffing, I gently touch a bit of tissue to the stuffing (otherwise that liquid will be gurgling or spitting in my mouth). Then since this was a fresh fill of a blank, I now let it settle. I lay the carto on different sides for 15-20 minutes. Then it should be ready to vape. If you use thicker juices than me, then you may need to let it settle longer.

As I am vaping - if the vapor gets a bit light or a bit dry or tastes bit off or the carto is getting unusually warm, I will take the carto off the battery, open it, add 6-8 drops or whatever it seems to want (I will either hold a bit of tissue against the threaded end hole just in case, or skimp on how many drops I add to make sure I avoid drips if I have no tissue). I check to make sure the threaded end is dry, give it a couple of puffs into the threaded end to make sure the air channel is clear, and continue to vape.

Note - it is easy for me to "open" my main cartos for adding juice because I replace the white end cap with a plastic or delrin drip tip (I get them at LiteCigUSA.net). So I can easily pull that out with my fingers when I add juice and it keeps my lips cool if the carto is hot.

Fabulous explanation. This should be a sticky!

 

[tattoogirl]

I really like my kgo kit. 1100mah batteries. I vape alot throughout the day. like almost fell asleep with it in my hand lol, and a battery seems to last me over a full day. its pretty cheap too 45$ and i believe for 2 days there is a 15% off code. plus this vendor rocks ma socks off
eGo 1100 mAh 2 battery kit