510 Atty Disassembly

[Bubo]

It gave it's life... So that other's might learn...
(Or I screwed up and broke it...)

Warning - alcohol was involved in this process - warning - do not attempt modding whilst drinking..

Anyway, short version of what happened, I was attempting to remove a battery connector (Yeah! I finally I have a dead one!) (Is it wrong to be happy about that?) and broke the atty. Ooops. So I decided to document the process - I can't remember if anyone else has shown it in depth...

While doing this I found out a couple of things that I hadn't realized before:
- The air flow goes directly through the Nichrome coil
- Nickle foam is pretty at high magnification...
- This stuff is much smaller and fragile than I thought
- Don't drunk post....

The green coloring on atty parts is just a magic marker that I used to mark the dead atty last week...

If anyone wants an original size picture, PM me the image name (Right Click, Properties)....

Anyway, hope this helps someone, somewhere.... So hang on here goes!

Not so bad was it?

 

[Mist_Of_Joye]

Beautiful pictures...Sad but beautiful.*RIP*

 

[vendo]

hate it when that happens. Only did it once though to what I thought was a dead atty (well it was afterwards )

Don't forget to keep the connector to make a 510 to 901,801, etc adapter to run off 510 batteries or mods

 

[Scottbee]

OK... here is a little known (perhaps) fact. You see that plastic insulator around the two wires.. the one that creates the "nozzle" for all of the intake air to go through? When an atty gets really hot, that piece of plastic will melt. And when it melts that nozzle has a tendency to close up.... which restricts the air flow. It feels like the atty is just clogged. And when that happens, the atty gets even hotter and the hole can close up even more!

I have two attys that I have taken apart where this hole is all but completely closed. And, as one would expect, the draw on both of these attys was quite hard (and they got quite hot!).

To many this might be useless information... aside from explaining why they need to throw their atty out. But.... if you have a collection of small numbered drill bits and a steady hand (a lathe helps), you can open that hole back up. Obviously.... you need to be very careful about nicking the wires and you might end up destroying the atty.

Just somethin' to ponder....

P.S.. If you have a really good light, a good eye, and maybe a magnifying loop, you can actually see through the battery end if the hole is open or not.

 

[Scottbee]

I should add one more thing. If you don't have good eyes..but you have some guts... you can also tell if the plastic hole is clogged with the unbent end of a paperclip. It should be able to go in the battery end hole and go all the way up and touch the coil (judge the distance... about a half an inch). If the plastic insulator is melted, it will only go in about 1/4" or so.

 

[DVS]

Thanks for the excellent pictures and info, Scottbee. I always wondered what was making the hard draw on the atty. Usually I would push a paper clip in the top atty hole to loosen the draw(sometimes hitting the coil though). Now I know. Thanks.

Sorry Bubo I made a booboo. Thanks Bubo for the pics.

 

[roadkilldeluxe]

Thanks for the high-quality images. Still waiting on an atty to die so it's nice to get a preview of the internals

 

[sepper33]

Maybe I'm just an idiot, but if there are any other people like me, it might help to give an explanation of what all these pictures I'm looking at are; what the parts do, how it all plays together. Captions maybe? Sick post though!

 

[Bubo]

Sepper,
Take a look at Exo's schematic of a 901... It breaks parts down better than I ever could!

As more parts give their lives for the greater good - I'll take more pics...

 

[bitey]

Bubo - Thank you so much for the beautifully detailed pictures. Every time I wanted to see something from a different angle, that would be the next picture. This thread should be made a sticky somewhere so that people can know what really makes an atty work, what the parts are, and what causes the problems we all experience.

Scottbee - What wonderful and terrible info about why air flow gets harder and harder sometimes. I have had this problem with a couple of 510 attys and, of course, I just draw harder and the atty gets hotter, and the situation gets worse and worse. Wow, just wow.

Thanks so much, guys.

 

[48lowes]

From another post by Vaporer
"As far as the connecting wires to the coil. I've never had any luck using the existing wires. It seems the eliquid causes the coating to swell and trying to connect and solder the ends down in the ceramic cup is tough to say the least."
Vaporer

Nice pics Bubo. Now we can refer to them and actually know what one is talking about. I've disassembled several 510's now and have the same broken red wire shown. Then Vaporer states the above. Can anyone tell me how the remove these wires from the ceramic cup?

 

[Bubo]

Got me.. I just took the pictures!

 

[48lowes]

OK... here is a little known (perhaps) fact. You see that plastic insulator around the two wires.. the one that creates the "nozzle" for all of the intake air to go through? When an atty gets really hot, that piece of plastic will melt. And when it melts that nozzle has a tendency to close up.... which restricts the air flow. It feels like the atty is just clogged. And when that happens, the atty gets even hotter and the hole can close up even more!

Scottbee
this is a great observation at least for me it is. I realize this is a pretty old post but it is very valuable info into why my atty's turn to junk in a hurry. OK this is the scenario- the atty is not producing & I'm thinking crud on the coil. The cleaning of said atty only improves performance slightly.The only way to make this atty produce is to take longer and longer drags, multiple times to where finally I throw the atty in the used up parts bin. I could write a novel on the many ways to screw up and atty, and now I'm starting the sequel. This leads me back to atty rebuilding 101. My thanks to the many ECF members that take the time to teach others. I hope in time I can also be of some help .

 

[redeyedancer]

I should add one more thing. If you don't have good eyes..but you have some guts... you can also tell if the plastic hole is clogged with the unbent end of a paperclip. It should be able to go in the battery end hole and go all the way up and touch the coil (judge the distance... about a half an inch). If the plastic insulator is melted, it will only go in about 1/4" or so.

Thanks Scottbe I have recently run into this on the new Low resistance 510 Atomizers.This has happened twice on these things and i was using it at 3.7