this is making me mad. I started out with 3. The first one died within 5 days, completely burnt out. The other 1 hardly produced any vapor, and the final one has a constant burnt taste to it. I ordered 6 more from cignot.com. got em 2 days ago. Decided to bust out one last night and give it a go. blew all the primer out, took a few puffs/exhales, then threw on a cart and puffed til i got the nastyness away. It worked fine until about 7pm tonight. Now it has a nasty burnt taste like the others. Im using carts with the blue foam mod and a coffee stirrer. I've been extra careful to make sure i wasn't vaping it dry. topping it off whenever the taste even changed slightly. i can see the fiberglass stuff under the bridge and it doesn't look burnt at all. looks new. still tastes disgusting. I am trying another atomizer now. Hoping i have better luck. Any suggestions? i'm starting to get really frustrated with this.
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the first 3 were from litecigusa, so i figured id try somewhere else and see if i had any luck. and the first one i tried tastes burnt already. is this a defect or human error?
Try the Pyramid Tea Bag mod for the 510 or direct drip for a while to see if its the atty or your carts...the blue foam always has an off taste to me no matter how much I wash it and follow directions exactly. PTB's just work and I can vape all of the liquid out before getting off tastes. Just my 2 cents...good luck.
It could be human error but there are reports of bad attys comin out of china on occasion so it could be bad quality control on the factory just as easily. The vendors get sent stuff, they don't make it so unless they get a bunch of complaints about 'shipment Z' they may have no idea its a quality control issue from the manufacturer.
you could always by an adapter and switch to cartos..... I just came from the 510 because I was tired of all the upkeep.... for me the cartos work better, taste better and the vape they produce to me is no different then with the 510 attys.... no constant dripping, refilling, or leaking inconsistent attys... and no filler mods either.....
My opinion does differ from that of others though.....
My opinion does differ from that of others though.....
It could be bad attys. Here's a few other things I can think of to check for.
Are you sure it's not the blue foam touching the atty that is producing the burnt taste? Could the foam be sticking up too much? I switched to the shredded tea bags, as it was the only filter that didn't produce a burnt taste for me.
The fiberglass stuff under the bridge doesn't have to look burnt in order to give off a burnt taste. Is it sticking out and touching the atty?
Are you using a flavor with oil in it that would gum up an atty fast?
I soak my attys for about 1/2 hour in hot soapy water every other night and blow them out. I've only lost the first atty that I had bought, and that was because I thought the filter sticking up from under the bridge was a piece of that floss that comes in the original carts, and was stuck to my atty, and so I pulled it out.
I wash out my filters every other night too.
Have you tried the Crest Pro Health wash that's been suggested on the forum? You can do a search for it. It's supposed to renew attys.
Or maybe you've just had bad luck with attys. Hope you find out what it is. I know it was very frustrating to me figuring out all the eccentricities of the ecigs.
Debbie
Are you sure it's not the blue foam touching the atty that is producing the burnt taste? Could the foam be sticking up too much? I switched to the shredded tea bags, as it was the only filter that didn't produce a burnt taste for me.
The fiberglass stuff under the bridge doesn't have to look burnt in order to give off a burnt taste. Is it sticking out and touching the atty?
Are you using a flavor with oil in it that would gum up an atty fast?
I soak my attys for about 1/2 hour in hot soapy water every other night and blow them out. I've only lost the first atty that I had bought, and that was because I thought the filter sticking up from under the bridge was a piece of that floss that comes in the original carts, and was stuck to my atty, and so I pulled it out.
I wash out my filters every other night too.
Have you tried the Crest Pro Health wash that's been suggested on the forum? You can do a search for it. It's supposed to renew attys.
Or maybe you've just had bad luck with attys. Hope you find out what it is. I know it was very frustrating to me figuring out all the eccentricities of the ecigs.
Debbie
so i went against what everyone says, and i pulled out the thread at the bottom. i figured what else do i got to lose? and no more burnt taste. WTF.
Yes, that will get rid of the burnt taste but you don't have the wicking material anymore, so your atty is now a dripping-only atty. I did the same thing (by mistake like Debby to two of my attys). Those I scratched a "D" into them for dripping only and bought three more for carts.
Now, to go figure out all these cart mods. That's next on my list.
Now, to go figure out all these cart mods. That's next on my list.
haha thats fine, i'll just leave this atty on my usb passthru. and yea, i need to find a good cart mod that works. i can't be dripping at work and school :\
and yea, i need to find a good cart mod that works. i can't be dripping at work and school :\
Actually thats quite helpful - so it SEEMS the issue was with the wick not the actual unit. I wonder if you can get a bad batch of wicks? At any time did you clean these in crest pro mouthwash to see if the burnt taste would go? I've heard people using that method - last resort before ripping out a wick - successfully but not tried it msyelf.
nope! i'll have to grab some next time im at teh store. would listerine work? lol
No it has to be the crest pro - the blue one - don't ask me why - I think its less corrosive or something.Scottbee probably knows the exact reason. If you have another bad atty (do NOT use the one with no wick on it, only use another one that you think is pretty much dead) throw it the crest for a couple hours and see if anything dislodges off the wick in there. Rinse it, dry for at least 24 hours and try vaping it after re-priming the bridge.
I posted this in another thread:
I'm using the burn off method.
Search on YouTube for "how to clean a 510 atomizer".
Yeah, there are lots of krazy ways out there but keep it simple. I'll try using the Jmsdvs' everclear solution too to loosen it up. The alcohol will evap away I suppose and not leave a residue. Hot water bath might help too. Either way burning it off has been said to bring a dead one back to life, meaning a clogged one I guess.
I use the blue foam too. I don't use the cap method it leaked. I make a strip of it go into the cart as far as practable, about half an inch. After it's full I pull the foam up level with the top of the cart so it makes contact with the atty wire. Works good so far.
The fat dood with the fatdora hat and the guy with the fumanchu and short hair demonstrate this.
YouTube - how to clean 510 atomizer
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=how+to+clean+a+510+attomizer&search_type=&aq=f
I'm using the burn off method.
Search on YouTube for "how to clean a 510 atomizer".
Yeah, there are lots of krazy ways out there but keep it simple. I'll try using the Jmsdvs' everclear solution too to loosen it up. The alcohol will evap away I suppose and not leave a residue. Hot water bath might help too. Either way burning it off has been said to bring a dead one back to life, meaning a clogged one I guess.
I use the blue foam too. I don't use the cap method it leaked. I make a strip of it go into the cart as far as practable, about half an inch. After it's full I pull the foam up level with the top of the cart so it makes contact with the atty wire. Works good so far.
The fat dood with the fatdora hat and the guy with the fumanchu and short hair demonstrate this.
YouTube - how to clean 510 atomizer
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=how+to+clean+a+510+attomizer&search_type=&aq=f
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I have encountered the same thing. It is so nasty you can't stand it. Not only nasty taste but the smell is awful and you have hard time getting taste out of your mouth. I have gone through 6 attys from ZigCig and 2 from cignot. I have tried all the cleaning suggestion I could find on this forum. Using juicy from cignot, and eliquid. The first 510 atty was great and I was happy for 2 weeks after changing from solar flare. I thought I had it made. But now out of all my attys 2 1/2 weeks later back on analogs, and very .......
Keeping in mind I'm new to this and I realize the cosmetic outside of the atty means nothing.....I noticed the attys that come with kits work much better than the ones that I ordered as spares plus the look different. You can see the difference below. The top atty with the thin brass ring came from a kit and the one below that was a spare (which I bought 2). I swaped out both carrts and batteries to isolate the problem as being the attys. Coincidence....maybe but I found it to be true with 3 kits and 2 spares bought from different vendors.
the first atty that i used was a "spare". i got a kit with 2 black ones and i opted to use my stainless steel extra first, it worked the best so far, but only worked for 5 days. i ordered 6 more from cignot and they all look exactly the same as the 510 attys i got from litecig.
it's ridiculous tho, ill try to clean them with mouthwash and vodka and everclear and whatnot, but i don't feel i should have to clean them after the first 8 hours to get rid of a burnt taste.
Crest is used because it is no alcohol and has some surfactants. PGA soak is only last resort. But soaks are for clogs, not the nasty taste that burns the nose. That is generally a cart and wicking issue, not an atty issue. The reason a brand new atty would do this is generally because it is starved for juice, and the cart is not giving it up well enough or fast enough.
If the taste goes away when you drip 3 or 4 drops directly onto the bridge, then you know its the cart, not the atty, and in my experience with many attys, its never the atty. It means the cart is not wicking liquid to the bridge properly. This can be a function of juice thickness, filler material, and how old it is (gets compressed and hold onto juice more). An ADM mod can fix this. I use the ZFM mod, a variant, which works well, but is a bit of a pain to get right...in the beginning when you try to make these, it is fine line between not wicking at all and flooding the atty and leaking. Have not tried blue foam yet, but might in the future. Another good filler material is buff-puff facial sponge, but you have to cut it in the right direction to get the sponge channels to allow wicking along the length of the cart. It does work extremely well though.
This new cart I made is working perfectly now, no nasty taste at all. Had this been the atty, this would not be the case. Before you call a vendor and complain about the atty, make sure its not a wicking problem. My guess is it is, and the atty is fine. A "bad" atty would be dead or very weak. It would not be producing lots of vapor. Lots of vapor with nasty taste means the coil is too dry and is getting very hot, and probably decomposing trace liquid on it. I don't like to think about what the actual chemicals are produced in that scenario, but I think avoiding inhaling them is a good idea.
If the taste goes away when you drip 3 or 4 drops directly onto the bridge, then you know its the cart, not the atty, and in my experience with many attys, its never the atty. It means the cart is not wicking liquid to the bridge properly. This can be a function of juice thickness, filler material, and how old it is (gets compressed and hold onto juice more). An ADM mod can fix this. I use the ZFM mod, a variant, which works well, but is a bit of a pain to get right...in the beginning when you try to make these, it is fine line between not wicking at all and flooding the atty and leaking. Have not tried blue foam yet, but might in the future. Another good filler material is buff-puff facial sponge, but you have to cut it in the right direction to get the sponge channels to allow wicking along the length of the cart. It does work extremely well though.
This new cart I made is working perfectly now, no nasty taste at all. Had this been the atty, this would not be the case. Before you call a vendor and complain about the atty, make sure its not a wicking problem. My guess is it is, and the atty is fine. A "bad" atty would be dead or very weak. It would not be producing lots of vapor. Lots of vapor with nasty taste means the coil is too dry and is getting very hot, and probably decomposing trace liquid on it. I don't like to think about what the actual chemicals are produced in that scenario, but I think avoiding inhaling them is a good idea.
i just find it odd that the taste is no longer there after i removed the threads under the bridge, the burnt taste is gone. i haven't even considered calling either vendor, these things are disposable. i just wish mine would be less disposable
I forgot to mention that a 510 is 3.7 volts. Higher voltages like with the 510 passthrough, the one without the in-line battery at 5V tends to burn off attys well. I saw a post here that with 5 or 6V several dead atty were brought back to life after burning if off. The person had set them aside thinking they were dead but after they got a mod with a higher voltage they tried them again and they worked.
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