510 attys fewer vs more threads?

[NebulaBrot]

I know there are loads of atty threads but I searched using this thread title and found nothing that directly addresses this threads question. Following, I ask about break-in (which I also know is covered but just seemed easier to throw in here as it came up while swapping out these attys). Thanks for patience with another newb.

Ordered some 510 attys from different sources (did not track which came from where as I was ordering various juices and grabbed some attys here and there along the way). Some have fewer threads while some have more. This is visible in a side-by-side comparison. If I have to take a photo and post, I will but if you run a finger nail down the threads, one has 3 to 4 thread groves while another has 4 to 5 (depending on where you start relative to where the last groove ends).

Is there a way to tell better quality attys vs lower quality ones? is there a way to identify OEM Joye?

While on this topic, as part of atty "break-in" do some produce less vapor in the early stages of vaping? I've been vaping for about 3 weeks and using 2 attys between 2 devices. They seemed to be producing less vapor recently so I grabbed a new one and blew out the primer. There was barely a dot on the paper towel but my earlier ones had at least a few drops. The new one stopped working after 2 refills of 2 or 3 drops each. So I grabbed another, this one has more threads and is vaping but seems to be low vapor.

Any help appreciated.

 

[Xanax]

I know there are loads of atty threads but I searched using this thread title and found nothing that directly addresses this threads question. Following, I ask about break-in (which I also know is covered but just seemed easier to throw in here as it came up while swapping out these attys). Thanks for patience with another newb.

Ordered some 510 attys from different sources (did not track which came from where as I was ordering various juices and grabbed some attys here and there along the way). Some have fewer threads while some have more. This is visible in a side-by-side comparison. If I have to take a photo and post, I will but if you run a finger nail down the threads, one has 3 to 4 thread groves while another has 4 to 5 (depending on where you start relative to where the last groove ends).

Is there a way to tell better quality attys vs lower quality ones? is there a way to identify OEM Joye?

While on this topic, as part of atty "break-in" do some produce less vapor in the early stages of vaping? I've been vaping for about 3 weeks and using 2 attys between 2 devices. They seemed to be producing less vapor recently so I grabbed a new one and blew out the primer. There was barely a dot on the paper towel but my earlier ones had at least a few drops. The new one stopped working after 2 refills of 2 or 3 drops each. So I grabbed another, this one has more threads and is vaping but seems to be low vapor.

Any help appreciated.

Hey there. I have photos of two atomizers that came with my 510 starter kit. One of them is not in working order. Well, it works but barely. Yes some atomizers produce less vapor in the breaking in period. My good atomizers that I have took about a day, some took 2-3 days but you will really notice when they are broken in (from my experience). For me, the atomizer will suddenly produce a lot of vapor and consistently from that point on. Flavor will generally be better and you usually have to draw less to get the desired amount of vapor (depending on what that is)

As for the threads, I'm not sure what is technically better (more or less) but if we're JUST speaking about 510's ... the two that I have are SIGNIFICANTLY different. Less threads seems to be better in this case, although I can't be sure that the heaping wad of threads is the actual problem in my bad atomizer.

Here are some photos I took for reference:
GOOD ATOMIZER:

BAD ATOMIZER:

That wad of "stuff" you see is the threads. It seems to me there was an error in how much should go in there during manufacturing and there is so much that the threads are actually clogging the draw. BUT like I said I'm no expert and the problem could be in the wiring or bad connections etc...

And to what you said about "There was barely a dot on the paper towel but my earlier ones had at least a few drops."
It could be that the manufacturer didn't put enough primer on the atomizers and the atomizers got too dry and died in transit. I know the primer is to keep the atomizers nice and wet while they're being delivered to you, and for good reason. Atomizers like to be wet. Wet = happy.

I'm going to end the longest reply I've ever written with: atomizers are very touchy and finnicky (sp) and like so many ECF members have stated: "It's always good to treat atomizers as disposable so that way you won't be disappointed, and atomizers aren't made to be permanent."

Anyway, good luck! You'll get a good batch.

 

[VapoMonkey]

I believe he's referring to to the threads on the outside of the atty, you know where you screw it into your battery. I did take notice that my mega attys have 1 maybe 2 threads on the outside. All in all, I haven't noticed any difference based on the threading for the atty. As for the internal wicking material under the atty bridge only 1 of mine has anything pulled out from under it, and it has had no difference on anything (draw, vapor production, etc...)

 

[NebulaBrot]

Thanks Xan and Vapo. I certainly appreciate the replies. to clarify, and I will post a photo later, I did/do mean the screw threads at the connections point.

I am fairly certain that all of the attys I ordered were posted as Joye 510 but there most certainly ARE differences. Some have wider bridges while others have narrower bridges - some more screw threads, others less, some threads are tighter together while others a bit wider apart. So far, I can find no "J" or any other clear indications as to which (if any) are actually OEM Joye/Jante (have thought these were interchangeable names for a single manufacturer but still a bit unclear about that. So, I am thinking there is a lesson in here somewhere about atty shopping - some are clearly better quality than others, some are selling attys is original OEM while the attys may not be, Joye could have horrendous quality control or could be outsourcing to a variety of plants with no eye for product consistency... ORRRRRR, we just haven't found the discernible characteristics which identify good vs not-so-good attys and how to know before ordering.

Anyone else have a way to help clear this up or is it all just hit and miss?

BTW, I certainly DO see attys as disposable but when spending between $7-10/each and reading that some people are getting 3 months out of a single atty, it can be a bit disappointing when an atty stops working after 5 or 6 drops of liquid. And, given most vendors will not stand behind attys, knowing who sells the best attys will help all of us and those vendors who are actually selling higher quality attys. I did buy 4 LR attys from a vendor during my first week of vaping. 2 of those popped in the first 5 minutes and the other two lasted one day each. meanwhile, as I mentioned, my first 2 regular 510 attys each lasted 3 weeks each (switching between 3.7 and 5VPT). That vendor (won't name names) would not stand behind the attys even on a one time credit. Their cost was probably $20, my cost was $40 and they may well have lost a good customer over $20 of attys. Personally, if I were running that business, I would have said "sorry you had a bad experience. We don't warranty attys but we do want your business so we will make a one time replacement but won't do it again" Instead, they just refused. since then, I have spent waaaaaay more $$ than I care to admit on product, supplies and juices and I have yet to go back to them. I may get over it at some point but it left a really bad taste in my mouth - worse than vaping atty primer!!!

 

[Ast_Isis]

I just looked through my various 510 atomizers and discovered that all of them are the 3-4 thread version. This includes the ones that came with my first Joye 510 kits from Heaven's Gift and Cignot.

I only buy from certain suppliers to insure that all my atomizers are the authentic Joye 510 version. (Cignot and Puresmoker)

Some people prefer the cheaper SLB 510 atomizers but since I use a mod I stick with the original. IMO they last longer on a mod than the SLB version.

I also tried LR atomizers and I am not that impressed. They seem to produce less flavor and are very sensitive to any change in voltage.

 

[bsoplinger]

I use the DSE901 and DSE905. How this applies to you. They are made by SLB. And if you look, you can see SLB stamped on the battery and atomizer in the flat part where they thread together. Perhaps Joye does something similar? Or if its a 510 clone from SLB perhaps SLB marks their clones?

 

[NebulaBrot]

Here are some pics. sorry the bridge shot is fuzzy but I think you can see the difference nonetheless:

 

[VapoMonkey]

Going back and taking stock of all my attys they all seem to be 5-7 threads which leads me to believe that that is within acceptable parameters of manufacture (but dont quote me on that). I would also be lead to believe that with too many threads it will bottom out and you will not get adequate air-flow and the atty will overheat and burn out.

Also based on the pics that you posted they are the real deal not some knock-off. Spotting a knock-off is simple: Look for a metal washer at the bottom of the atty. A true joye atty will only have a little white plastic rectangular piece surrounding the bridge.

On a side note, I am not too happy with the LR attys, they seem too finicky to me. But then again it just may be that in my eGo they suck and not suck on the regular battery... Cant seem to find my other batteries at the moment

 

[NebulaBrot]

Gotta say that the fatter bridge atty is breaking in nicely and is really impressive (so far). 3 drops do not flood and give at least 10-12 draws. I am amazed as it just keeps on vaping. That fat bridge is really holding juice and wicking is super efficiently! Hope it continues like this cause I got a bunch of these bad boys!

 

[son et lumiere]

Just buy a Janty atomizer with a 6 month warranty for $16. save you a lot of money.

 

[NebulaBrot]

Just buy a Janty atomizer with a 6 month warranty for $16. save you a lot of money.

Please indulge, who sells attys with 6 month warranty? Thanks. BTW, as I posted, the ones I ordered were all posted as Joye and I had thought Joye is Janty. Maybe I got that wrong.