510 manual passthrough mod

[Retard-O-Bot]

Ok, so this is my first attempt at a mod. Also, my first attempt at soldering. I personally am quite please with the outcome

So, I had an old m401 USB battery charger laying around. Thought I would put it to some good use since I've moved on to a 510. Since the m401 battery and the 510 atomizer are the same size, it makes this a fairly simple mod.

I started by opening the battery end of the charger and removing the circuit board and LED. The hole for the LED was a little small, so I drilled it out with a 5/16th bit and put in a Submini Pushbutton Switch (RadioShack #275-1571). I had to take the locking washer off to get a good fit, but I think it'll be fine.

The leads coming off the battery connector were too short to do much with, so they came off. Re-soldered new donor wires and attached the negative wire to the switch. Spliced in an extra segment of USB cable (original one was only about 6 inches long).

Oh, since this was a battery charger, there were no holes to let the atomizer breath. However, if you screw the 510 atomizer in all the way and give it a 1/4 turn or so back out, it breaths nicely and still works.

This thing hits like a champ! I don't know if I'll be able to go back to my battery now

Enjoy!

 

[bigozone]

i gave up regular batts for a 5v usb pass thru... then i made a 6v magnum and put my pass thru away,, but i need more juice per day now..

very good for your first mod. nice little device.

 

[Retard-O-Bot]

Thanks

I've seen some battery pack mods running 2-3 batteries in parallel, putting out about 8v (give or take a few volts). Think I'll attempt something along those lines next. If moving from 3.2v to 5v gives this big a boost to vapor, I can only imagine what moving to 8v+ would do

Does anyone know what the voltage limit of most atomizers is? Or is it more a question of amperage? Still trying to work this electrical business out.

 

[opuscroakus]

Thanks

I've seen some battery pack mods running 2-3 batteries in parallel, putting out about 8v (give or take a few volts). Think I'll attempt something along those lines next. If moving from 3.2v to 5v gives this big a boost to vapor, I can only imagine what moving to 8v+ would do

Does anyone know what the voltage limit of most atomizers is? Or is it more a question of amperage? Still trying to work this electrical business out.

Actually, you would be running the batteries in series. When in series add the volts together, when in parallel add the mAh together. That being said, 6v is about all you want to run through a standard atty. Much more than that and they start to fry pretty quick. 5v seems to be about the right voltage for most.

 

[bigozone]

Actually, you would be running the batteries in series. When in series add the volts together, when in parallel add the mAh together. That being said, 6v is about all you want to run through a standard atty. Much more than that and they start to fry pretty quick. 5v seems to be about the right voltage for most.

spot on OPUS,, at 6v i find i must keep the atty wet at all times to prolong life... and 6v is a little too strong for long inhales, but i like the feel of it

3 batts would have to be ran thru a voltage regualtor or ran in parallel to keep from burning the atty out. but i have heard of some people running 7.4v till the atty pops.

 

[Retard-O-Bot]

Thanks guys, good to know.

That's one of the great things about this forum. People are so willing to help out the n00bs instead of mocking them.

So, if I follow correctly, wiring the batteries in parallel would give me more battery life, but running them in serial would give me more vapor (keeping in mind that anything over 6v is pretty much pointless).

Running with that theory, would it be possible (or even really make sense) to run two separate sets of batteries in series and then run those in parallel? Get the voltage up to around 6v, and the mAh to about 1200? (running these numbers based on 10440's).

 

[Retard-O-Bot]

So, it's late and I decided that since I'm still up, I'd make a crappy YouTube video of my new toy.

I'll warn you now, this is my first attempt at pretty much everything here. First mod, first time soldering and first time making/posting a video.

YouTube - DSCI0003.AVI

 

[bigozone]

Thanks guys, good to know.

That's one of the great things about this forum. People are so willing to help out the n00bs instead of mocking them.

So, if I follow correctly, wiring the batteries in parallel would give me more battery life, but running them in serial would give me more vapor (keeping in mind that anything over 6v is pretty much pointless).

Running with that theory, would it be possible (or even really make sense) to run two separate sets of batteries in series and then run those in parallel? Get the voltage up to around 6v, and the mAh to about 1200? (running these numbers based on 10440's).

before i try to get techincal in a field i have no techincal knowledge in... first of all let me say
NICE FIRST MOD AND VIDEO!

now, in theory your idea of running 2 sets of 2 batteries is possible,, but using lithium rechargeable batteries (especially unprotected batteries) in even a set of 2 invites more chances of problems.

if you are trying to gain higher mah or more vape time, use 1 18650 protected batt to get 3.7v long term vaping, if one 18650 is not enough then you could use 2 in parallel.

while many froum members use 2 cr2 unprotected in a series to get 5v or 6v vaping (will be more like 7.4v at first if not using a 7805vr), but be aware of the possibility of under,over, and reverse charging as well as short circuts... all can lead to VERY BAD THINGS.

but without nerf's custom ordered attys you'd destroy many attys trying to run 2x 3.7 batteries in series without some kind of voltage regulation, since thier starting voltage will be more like 2x 4.2 or 8.4 volts after a fresh charge

and before using unprotected batteries in series do a little reading of the battery threads here in the mod section and this thread at CFP and look at what can happen even with non rechargeable batts... i read all 750 pages of that thread from CPF and i learned too much. but respect for these batts can be a life saver!

2 batts or 2 sets of batts in series is an extra chance you may wanna think about.

 

[mnealtx]

IF you decide to use batteries in sets, ALWAYS keep them together, use them together, and charge them together.

I have 3 sets of 14500's - they're marked 1, 2 and 3.

 

[bigozone]

IF you decide to use batteries in sets, ALWAYS keep them together, use them together, and charge them together.

I have 3 sets of 14500's - they're marked 1, 2 and 3.

i guess i forgot to mention that....

GREAT POINT mnealtx

 

[Retard-O-Bot]

After all the horror stories I've heard with unprotected batteries, I think I'll be avoiding them like the plague. But I think you're right bigozone, I'm probably better off sticking with just one battery for now. That is, until I get some electrical know how

 

[boxhead]

hey, that circut board out of the usb charger could be used to make a pv that can be PT`d and vaped or vaped on a battery in a box mod. yeah itt would take awhile to charge, about 4-6 hours, but i have to sit aroud that much or more a day anyway. i`m just saying i am working on useing the dse 901 usb battery charger i got to do this. i got side tracked with car cig plugs for usb PTs, untill i found one that is hehehe a pt for a car cig plug, ie: the plug has a place to plug in a second car cig plug if you need two power outlets. the one i got has a cover that is locked so its going to mak a perfect battery lid. and yeah i`m a SD so i`ll use 16340 batts, and they fit the plug female hole with a little room to put the circut board from my dse 901 batt charger and a switch. work in progress, going to do a 16340 charge with the board and aligator clips and power supply later today.

 

[EricMx45]

I just wanted to say thanks ......-o-Bot. Ive been looking for a nice and easy first time mod to do and after seeing your 510 pt mod I had to try it. I already had everything I needed to attempt it but I only had a 801 usb charger. So I did exactly what you did but replaced the battery connection with a 801 atty connection from a dead 801 batt. This thing works like a charm and was fairly quick to make. The only thing Im having problem with is the 801 atty connector isnt a tight fit in the body of the charger. Once it is put together it turns as I screw an atty or adaptor on. Other than that Im kinda proud if it. Thanks!

 

[Retard-O-Bot]

The only thing Im having problem with is the 801 atty connector isnt a tight fit in the body of the charger. Once it is put together it turns as I screw an atty or adaptor on. Other than that Im kinda proud if it. Thanks!

A little dab of epoxy may help that.

Thanks for the props