5v Question

[vleath]

OK so Neph over in the PIF social group traded me a 5v box mod. I looooove it so much. Exactly the vapor production I was looking for. But now it seems I am spoiled and I dont like my 808d-1 batteries or my , 901, 801, 510, ego, blu, or 401. I still have to use them at times because I am either out and about or with family and I dont really want to explain to them the box mod plus at a red light it looks kind of like a detonator. (I still smoke it though cause I it) I find myself dreaming of a 5v mod that is more cigarette looking. I know it cant look like a cigarette but I guess slim tube shape is what I am trying to say. Are there any out there like that. I keep looking and looking and find ones I like but they dont specifically say 5v they list batteries and such but I dont want higher than 5v nor lower. Also is 3.7 the same as the ego cause it did not impress me either. I am thinking 5v is the sweet spot I seriously would trade my entire collection for 5v vaping I like it that much.

 

[BetterBob]

A USB passthrough can do that in the dimensions you are looking for... but that is all I am aware of.

 

[mwa102464]

You should try 6 if you like 5

 

[jfdpl686]

At the end of the day, if you want performance then you have to look for "big" batteries. Ones than can hold the charge and remain stable in power during the working periods.
Most batteries are rated at 3, 3.6 or 3.7V when duplicating it you get 6, 7.2 and 7.4V respectively; meaning you need a regulator altogether require space.
In order to get to the sweet spot of 5V vape first you should know your device and accessories. So depending on the volts of your device and the resistance of your atomizer you get certain amount of watts… that is the key!

With a true 3.7V and a LR atty, you can be close to that 5V sweet spot; mostly the difference will be in the temperature of the vapor and the flavor. Some liquids taste better on a certain device. Now, you can do it the other way around, say you use a 7.4V device and an HR atty, if you fall into the same watts, therefore same sweet spot, you will have a very similar experience.

I think the GG slim with the extension tube will be a 7.4V, using a HR atty you can be very close.

I, personally, love the GLV.

 

[billo]

Try a LR (1.5 ohm) atty on your eGo. Should be about the same as 5V with a regular atty.

Night and day difference from the normal eGo atty.

I don't understand why everybody buys a new ecig to get 5 volts instead of using a LR atty on their existing 3.7 V. ecig.

 

[quasimod]

A lot of women don't like the big battery mods (a lot of men don't either). Some people are embarrassed to bust out a big shiny Silver Bullet in public. Unfortunately, there aren't many "feminine" options if you want high voltage that will last a long time.

There are a lot small 5 volt box mods you can build very cheap, or buy online (and some are much smaller and more comfortable to hold than they appear on screen). Smaller = less time between battery swaps.

If you carry a handbag (Capt. J tells me it's NOT a purse), then you may be willing to use a passthrough connected to a 5 Volt power pack that stays in your purse-I-mean-handbag (the Kensington is popular). The only downside is that dangly-tangly wire connecting you to your handbag.

You can use one of the small 3.7 Volt "big batt" mods (that are actually fairly small) with a "Low Resistance" atomizer. It somewhat simulates 5 Volt vaping, if your battery is up to it (not recommended below 450 mAh). Some people complain that it tastes "burnt", but in my limited experience that can be mitigated a bit by learning a slightly different vaping technique (you don't hold the button down continuously, you tap it on and off as needed). I'm still not very good at it, because I haven't spent a lot of time on it, but it helps.

Another thing you could do is just forget about the way it looks or how big it is, and find a great PV that does what you want it to do, regardless of size. Those people out there aren't going to be paying your hospital bills when you're old, so forget about what they think.

 

[Israfil]

It is my understanding that the Puresmoker prodigy is a 5 volt device (6 volts regulated through a resistive button down to 5) and looks pretty spiffy. I'm sure there are other examples of rather clean, polished looking e-cigs that won't alert the local bomb squad.

Personally I'm quite happy with my homemade variable voltage (3.7/5) juicebox... It may look like a detonator, but getting tackled by someone makes for a great story. ^_^

Edit: This list should help!
http://www.e-cignews.com/items/A_run_down_of_all_the_big_battery_model_e_cigarettes_on_the_

 

[redgirl]

I've tried LR attys and I think that a 5V mod is much better. LRs kill the taste more and are more harsh. I also have a 5V passthrough and it seems weak in comparison to my 5V mods. IMO, a 5V mod is the way to go. I have a GLV & a Joker and they are a little stronger than the box mod and they hit the spot perfectly. They are both very light and as slim as they can be, considering the batteries you have to use. 6V is too harsh for me, don't like it. 5V is the perfect balance. You're going to go through attys and juice faster, but that's the trade off. I use mine out in public all the time.

 

[Israfil]

Red, just so you know, there are two reasons a 5v passthrough might perform weaker than a 5v mod.

One is that the mod used to compare has used the TI voltage booster chip which for some reason makes the atomizers perform strangely. (they tend to heat up more for some reason than resisted down to 5v mods)

The other is that most computer USB ports can't support the amp draw of a standard atomizer, the solution to that would be to run it off of a wall outlet. (with a usb converter that has a high enough amperage, somewhere around 2 I think was what they said in the mod forums)

Also, nice hair ^_^ love the red!

 

[quasimod]

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I don't understand why everybody buys a new ecig to get 5 volts instead of using a LR atty on their existing 3.7 V. ecig.

A lot of people dislike the taste of LR attys, and many do not recommend they be used with smaller batteries less than 450 mAh.

 

[redgirl]

Red, just so you know, there are two reasons a 5v passthrough might perform weaker than a 5v mod.

One is that the mod used to compare has used the TI voltage booster chip which for some reason makes the atomizers perform strangely. (they tend to heat up more for some reason than resisted down to 5v mods)

The other is that most computer USB ports can't support the amp draw of a standard atomizer, the solution to that would be to run it off of a wall outlet. (with a usb converter that has a high enough amperage, somewhere around 2 I think was what they said in the mod forums)

Also, nice hair ^_^ love the red!

Thanks!

Ah, ok. I'll have to get one of those wall outlets to try it out. I'm trying to get some 5V PVs to give to my friends & family. Anyone know the best place to get one at? Maybe I'll put an ad up on the classifieds or something.

 

[BuzzKill]

To really get 5 volts the deice needs to be regulated ( voltage regulator ) this will give you a true 5 volts threw out the life of the batteries.

There are very few devices that do this . A resistor voltage dropping device will change the voltage but will be inconsistent over the battery life .

Many of them are BOX mods some are not

Look here

http://www.ecigarette-mods.com/battery_tube_mods.html


They list the working voltage and whether they are regulated etc.

 

[doots]

a 5v device hits differently than a lr atty. the volume of (vapor) is much more with a 5v than the lr attys IMO. My GLV is stronger than the LR 510s on 3.7v devices.. I have several 5v devices and they all hit better than LR attys at 3.7.

Not that Lr attys arent good, just different..

 

[Israfil]

Red, My best suggestion would be to build em! It takes about 15 minutes to learn to solder effectively enough to create a vaping device, and not all that much longer to find out how to make a 5 volt variant. (if you need to take just about any normal voltage up to 5 volts search the mod forum for threads by me, the one you need has "thingy" in the title) Also feel free to contact me via PM if you need help with it.

If you're dead set on buying one, I posted the list of a ton of big batt mods...some of em are 5v, but all of em are way more expensive than building em. ^_^

 

[redgirl]

Red, My best suggestion would be to build em! It takes about 15 minutes to learn to solder effectively enough to create a vaping device, and not all that much longer to find out how to make a 5 volt variant. (if you need to take just about any normal voltage up to 5 volts search the mod forum for threads by me, the one you need has "thingy" in the title) Also feel free to contact me via PM if you need help with it.

If you're dead set on buying one, I posted the list of a ton of big batt mods...some of em are 5v, but all of em are way more expensive than building em. ^_^

Yeah, I've got 5V mods (see sig!). I actually took a soldering class in the army, but that was forever ago. It would be awesome to make 5V box mods for everyone, I just haven't made the foray into modding at all and am apprehensive about it. I know there's guides out there, but I don't know if I'm ready for that yet. And I checked out the price of the Kensington power pack and don't like that!

 

[Israfil]

Ah, well just know if ya want help modding I'm here. ^_^ Not sure what there is to be apprehensive about, but there is tons of support here and in the mod forums if you do decide to try it.
Kensington power pack...for doing 5 volt portable passthrough? Yah it is a bit expensive.
If you want a 5 volt usb passthrough to work right, you'd look for something like this. https://www.powermax.com/parts/show/gri-na23094 5 volt/2 amp out, cheap as hell, etc. Happy vaping!

Edit..again: Found my PSP on my desk, looking at the charger it is 5v 2amp (2000MA). Seriously considering scrapping this thing and connecting it to a usb connector...

 

[wv2win]

I've tried LR attys and I think that a 5V mod is much better. LRs kill the taste more and are more harsh. I also have a 5V passthrough and it seems weak in comparison to my 5V mods. IMO, a 5V mod is the way to go. I have a GLV & a Joker and they are a little stronger than the box mod and they hit the spot perfectly. They are both very light and as slim as they can be, considering the batteries you have to use. 6V is too harsh for me, don't like it. 5V is the perfect balance. You're going to go through attys and juice faster, but that's the trade off. I use mine out in public all the time.

Red, I think you "hit the nail on the head". Good analysis of the different options. Using a Joker, GLV, etc in public has many advantages. People DON'T think you are smoking and once you explain to the curious what you are doing, I have found most people to be supportive.

 

[redgirl]

Red, I think you "hit the nail on the head". Good analysis of the different options. Using a Joker, GLV, etc in public has many advantages. People DON'T think you are smoking and once you explain to the curious what you are doing, I have found most people to be supportive.

Thanks! I like to freak people out, anyway. People usually dismiss and distrust things they don't understand.

 

[jfdpl686]

Red,
I I could do it... you can!
I didn't know anything at all about modding or soldering... my skills are terrible, but I've done a plain vanilla 3.7, then a juice box and last a 5V juice box... I'm sure you can do it.

See page 3, #25, that's my 5V mod. Having 3ml juice in 5V is heaven when you're on the go...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/modders-forum/88302-my-5v-mod-nico-stick-3.html

 

[redgirl]

Yeah, I think I'll try to make just a standard 5V box mod first. I am a freakin' telephone tech so I have some skill at wiring, just not of the electrical sort. And we don't use solder blocks for phones anymore, although a lot of buildings I work in still have them.

I never look at the modder's subforum or did any research on the subject, so that's what I'll be looking at for the next few days until I can find a guide for a 5V box mod. I guess there's supposed to be a tutorial on Madvape's site, but it's not coming up for me, but I'm at work.