70% isoprophyl alchohol

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jaco1

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i accidentally inhaled some iso while dry burning my atty,but before that i blew out all the excess liquid remaining,so while priming my cleaned atty i tasted the alchohol,probably a few vapes coz my atty was not working properly anyway im just worried about it entering my body since its for external use only its been a week now but nothing happend so far just want to ask any opinion on that,now ive been using vodka to be safe thanks
 

jaco1

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thank you so much for the replies,i asked a doctor and he told me not to worry as long as its not consumed in large quantities so any newbies will know that it can be harmful and fatal as he told me that it could damge the organs and something about may cause blindness...anyway i hope my fellow newbies get a chance to read this and would just stick to vodka or something that is foodgrade again many thanks for the replies
 

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I think the thing about blindness is the same as bad moonshine. I wont get into the details but in bad moonshine you end up creating methanol instead of ethanol, or grain alcohol. Thats why a good moonshiner burns a little off to make sure it burns blue instead of green. Anyway, what happens in when it gets to the blood vessels in your eyes that are in direct contact with the air, full of nitrogen, it breaks down into cyanide. Which is toxic, which will cause you to go blind. After viewing the ISO chemical formula I believe the same thing happens.
 

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I had originally wondered why so much discussion was focused around how to clean your attys. It seemed straight forward to me but then i thought about it and putting a bunch of ISO alcohol into your bloodstream doesnt sound like a good idea. I cant stress this enough though, dont take my word for it. Do your homework. I saw a video on youtube of someone using Cocoa Cola to clean his atty and at the end said it worked fine. i recommend you look this up before you try it. I havnt done that yet.

Idk what the side effect to vaped Cola are though :p
 

Redhotchewy

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It's not dangerous in the dose your using - let it air out a day, that's all.

I agree ur probably okay. It just goes back to what i said. Do your own homework. On another note swedishfish im sorry. We quit at the same time and smoked the same amount. But in NJ cigs must cost you an arm and leg. I've only saved $300 here in the south. And didnt they ban them in ur state? :(

But congrats on ur success with vaping
 

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I agree ur probably okay. It just goes back to what i said. Do your own homework. On another note swedishfish im sorry. We quit at the same time and smoked the same amount. But in NJ cigs must cost you an arm and leg. I've only saved $300 here in the south. And didnt they ban them in ur state? :(

But congrats on ur success with vaping

Here they're $7.00 a pack. I think when I was fooling with the banner I said I smoked 2 packs a day. I didn't actually smoke two packs- I don't think. I started rolling my own so I didn't keep track of how much I smoked. It was a lot though toward the end. It could have been 1 1/2- 2 pks.

I also didn't save that much either because it's much cheaper to roll your own.

So my whole banner is a lie!!:laugh:

When I made that post, I was looking for a link to explain about cleaning. The board went a little funny and I couldn't get back on.

Here's the link from someone pretty experienced that uses ispropol alcohol.
YouTube - eGo-T Atomizer Cleaning Demo....

It is dangerous to drink or ingest isoprophyl alcohol but I think if you use it properly you're probably OK. I'm not a doctor. Or if it's something that worries you, a lot of people use everpure (I think it's called) or even vinager.
 

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I think the thing about blindness is the same as bad moonshine. I wont get into the details but in bad moonshine you end up creating methanol instead of ethanol, or grain alcohol. Thats why a good moonshiner burns a little off to make sure it burns blue instead of green. Anyway, what happens in when it gets to the blood vessels in your eyes that are in direct contact with the air, full of nitrogen, it breaks down into cyanide. Which is toxic, which will cause you to go blind. After viewing the ISO chemical formula I believe the same thing happens.

Just a couple of notes, the blood vessels in the eye aren't in direct contact with air. They're inside, just like all other blood vessels. And isopropyl toxiticity is slightly different than methanol toxicity. It looks like a short small exposure to isopropyl would cause a bit of irritation. However, inhaling high concentrations or for longer periods of time is not a good thing. (TMI below, ignore if you're not interested in the details)

Isopropyl alcohol (PIM 290)
Inhalation - Common route of poisoning. Mild irritation of the respiratory tract occurs at 400 ppm. High concentrations can cause nausea, headache, lightheadedness, drowsiness, ataxia and deep narcosis.

20 to 50% of an absorbed dose is excreted unchanged. Most isopropyl alcohol is oxidized in the liver by alcohol dehydrogenase to acetone, which is probably further metabolized to acetate, formate, and finally carbon dioxide.Acetone may contribute to the CNS depression seen in isopropanol poisoning.

Methanol Poisoning Overview
Like ethylene glycol, methanol is relatively non-toxic; however, it is metabolized to highly toxic compounds that are responsible for the acidosis and blindness characteristic of methanol poisoning.

As in ethylene glycol poisonings, the initial step in the metabolism of methanol involves the enzyme alcohol dehydrogenase (ADH) (see Figure 2). First, methanol is slowly oxidized by ADH to yield formaldehyde. Next,formaldehyde is oxidized by formaldehyde dehydrogenase to yield formic acid (or formate, depending on the pH). This oxidation occurs rapidly so that little formaldehyde accumulates in the serum. FInally, formic acid is metabolized to carbon dioxide and water, which are excreted by the kidneys and lungs.

The accumulation of formic acid is responsible for the presence of metabolic acidosis. Formic acid also inhibits cellular respiration leading to lactic acidosis. The ocular injury caused by methanol may be due to retinal injury, which results from intra-retinal metabolism of methanol and the accumulation of formic acid. Alternatively, it may be caused be the inhibition of normal metabolism in optic nerve calls (Jacobsen 1997).
 

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Thorough rinse and dry after alcohol soak. If you're nervous try everclear or high proof unflavored vodka. As a carto user, I generally do the hot water soak -- nuke a bowl of water to near boiling, let the cartos soak about 10 minutes, repeat, after a couple rounds they are clear. Final rinse under tap water then into the oven on a paper towel, 225 or so for about 40 minutes to get them dry.
 
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