808 battery problem

[bev135]

I've been vaping and lurking on this forum since July. I love it! Haven't had an analog in over a month. This is the first time in 30+ years I've been able to say that!

I have an automatic battery from Vapor4Life that I've been using since July that has developed a problem. Two or three weeks ago it started sometimes failing to connect properly to the cartos. I read somewhere here that raising the battery post by sticking a pin in the hole and wiggling it up a little bit would help. It worked! But with this particular battery it seemed like I had to do that every time I took it off the charger and put a new carto on it.
Now that trick has stopped working. When I put a new carto on it the switch still works -- the LED comes on -- but there's no heating and no vapor. I just suck air through it. Fiddling with the battery post doesn't seem to work anymore and the battery post seems like it wiggles around more and more easily than it used to.

Anybody have any ideas what is wrong? Any way I can get it to work again?

I know that if anybody knows the answer, it will be somebody on this forum!

Thanks in advance,
Bev

 

[Croissant]

hey buddy,

i'm relatively new here myself. congratulations on quitting analogs, i got my first kit 2 weeks ago and i haven't wanted to smoke since. i feel you on the 808 battery issue though, i have a manual style kr808d-1 and one of my batts had a similar issue. from my understanding, while although tinkering with the center post on a batt can absolve the connection issue, you also run the risk of hampering the battery's internal wiring. as far as i know, the switch and LED's are not entirely connected to the actual battery (in the sense that even though the LED's are turning on, it's possible the battery isn't actually powering/heating the atomizer in your carto). when i first got my kit i wasn't aware that some chargers and/or carto's can force the center post on the batt downward, so i was unknowingly doing this when i attatched my batt to the charger and carto's.

my advice would be first to contact your supplier directly via e-mail, as they are usually more than happy to assist in my experience, and they might know the most about your particular device! hopefully that works out for you, i'll keep my fingers crossed for someone else on the forums to have any other tips. in the meantime (and if you have a backup batt) just remember we have to be real careful when putting batts on chargers or putting carto's or atty's on batts. good luck!

 

[dormouse]

1. I recommend not buying auto batteries. Manuals are harder to damage with juice leaks and make it easier to get a good hit. Most here use and recommend manuals.

2. Never stick anything in the hole of the battery or carto - you can damage stuff. Autos have a little physical drag switrch right inside the hole and cartos have wires inside the hole. There is a quick fix guide video here showing how to do move the posts to get a connection.
Vapor4Life

3. Never screw anything on any further than just far enough to connect electrically and work. That goes for cartos, attys, chargers. Screwing thinks on further can depress the battery center post or carto center post. And always wipe the end of your battery before sticking it on a charger or PCC to prevent juice reside buildup.

4. Always have spares of everything for any ecig you depend on

 

[bev135]

Thanks for your replies. I hadn't even thought about asking Vapor4Life -- duh! I just sent them email... we'll see if they have any ideas.

I've seen that video about how to adjust battery posts. That's the method I was using. Seems to conflict with the advice of "never stick anything in the hole of the battery or carto" which I have seen here from dormouse and elsewhere. Guess you just have to do it gently and don't stick things in very far.

I'm probably responsible for the problem since I tend to screw things together (like battery on charger, carto on battery) really tight to make sure to get a good connection. Oops!

I do have other batteries (or I'd be in panic mode!). I have 3 other autos and one manual battery that is pretty new. I just bought that one because it was on sale and I like it just fine. I've been happy with the autos but it seems like manuals are more sturdy so perhaps that's what I will get in the future.

Thanks for the tips, dormouse. I recognize you as one of the more knowledgeable forum members about all things 808 so I will take your advice and try to be more careful with batteries from now on.

 

[dormouse]

What I like about manuals is you can press the button in 1-3 seconds before you start dragging and then to me it is more like a cig because the vapor is ready and waiting. You can drag as soft as you want since your breath does not control whether vapor is made. And the V4L's have the custon long 10-13 second cutoff so you still have more than enough time to drag after pressing the button in early. You still have to try not to leak on the end since V4L manuals still have a hole there and although it looks somewhat blocked inside we don't know how well.

 

[Rimau]

Ditto dormouse, switching to a manual is the best and will resolve a lot of problems. Any kind of leakage with an auto and you can fry it. If you are looking for the right batt, then check around and try and get one that is more versatile. e.g. the GO GO is proprietary, but the ego will allow you to fit a large variety of carts, tanks, mods, etc. and you can always throw an adapter on it. Also the larger batts will last longer between charges, even a 650 is much better than an 808 in terms of charge life.

Saludos

 

[bev135]

Nice clear recomendation, Fidel. AND, I'm trying hard not to let this vaping habit become a hobby. It is sooo tempting to try every new thing I read about on this forum! But I really want to keep it simple. So that versatile quality of the ego might be kind of a bad thing. Oooh noooo, it's a gateway drug!
But I'm keeping notes in case I ever decide to broaden my vaping horizons...

 

[Rimau]

That works good for awhile, but once you try something that doesn't have a bunch of filler, like a regular cart, then you wonder why you didn't do it before. If you want to keep it simple, the idea is to find something that works bes for you. Things to consider:
1. Ease of transport
2. How much you vape, which relates directly to batt life and cart capacity
3. Charging options

808's are small and easy to carry, something like an ego is not all that much more of a bother, but box mods and mega anything is sometimes much more difficult.

Small carts are ok, but if you get tired of having to carry around 5-6 carts all the time, then you need to think about larger capacity carts/tanks/etc.

If a batt lasts all day, great, if you also have to carry an extra batt and a charger or are charging all the time, then that is a consideration.

Pick up an adapter and try different carts first, then larger batts if that is the direction you are heading. The reasoning is that batts are more costly, so it is easier to find the right cart, then consider batt charge time. Tanks are atty specific, but there are a great variety of adapters for the many different carts there are.

I got sick of carrying 5-6 carts and at lest 2 batts and a charger, plus extra liquid all the time, so I went with a different system. The ego-t was new and I loved it from the beginning, but after awile you get tired of having to do the wick mod, the tank mod, etc. fairly frequently, but batt time and liquid time was great. My ego-t is still my go to, but lately I just use my ego batt with a CE2XLRev5. At 1.8ml per load, and my batt will last me all day, I only have to carry a couple carts with me during the day, there is no possible leaking as with the tank, and the flavor is excellent. Easy to clean too, so I am really happy. I have considered some of the really high end boxes or mods, but I don't want to put out too much more money other that picking up a minimum of standard "expendables" and liquid. I now focus more on liquid than equipment. I do try other things like the CE3, which is not bad, just quirky. I definitely won't go back to carts with fillers.

Once you decide to spend $50-60 on a system, and another $40 on consumables, then most of your money will go to liquid and the occassional different cart to try, but if you pick up everything that comes out, you will end up spending lots of money. More complicated does not necesarily mean better. Just find what works for you.

When you decide to try something else, give us a shout and everyone here will be glad to help you select something.

Saludos