901 cr123 battery adapter... machined and designed in the USA by me.

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GratefulNerd

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what we ALL really want is to be happy... and smoke without dying or our S#$T breaking every other day! we ALL want things to be simple.... easy to use... inexpensive...

all of us here are "smokers", "vapors" or "WhateveR" society wants to label us... We are people all looking for the same thing... simplicity in a device, that gives us what we want... I think WE should be in charge, not the suppliers or device manufactures... we are not sheep needing to be herded!

I struggle with how to help "give" this to all of us, without costing an "arm and a leg".... I am really with everyone... I'm not a supplier... I'm a just like all of you and want a better way... that is what led me here, and that is what I hope will lead us ALL somewhere better... that is my vision... away from taxes... and away from someone trying to make a quick buck...

I don't know the answer, but I struggle like all of you to find a solution.....

I hope the few of these adapters that make it out my door and into yours will help to bridge this gap.... my goal would be for everyone to able to "grow their own" adapter and get out of this "rat race" for good...

I want this device or it's predecessors to be about all of us... not ME or someone else sitting on the top of the hill "watching the flock".... WE need to find a way where this is good for all of us... not just good for the next guy that is willing to "sell" a thousand of these to us...

Well said! I'm still new to eCig hardware but not hardware in general. I have a graveyard of computer equipment that can attest to your point. And then we all have those "cordless" devices that most people end up tossing when the batteries give up or just breaks right after the warranty expires.

Hopefully you'll start a trend. As more people discover PVs perhaps more machinists/fabricators will follow your example. When I've seen machinists "repair" something, they'll usually end up explaining how it could've been built better and easier. And from my limited knowledge, they usually sound dead on.

If I had half the experience and access to the equipment that you've acquired... I'd be asking how I could help or trying something similar.

I do however offer my computer graphics experience to you and the other mod'ers here. I'd be honored to donate a logo for whateveR name is chosen. This naming contest is a blast! Reading your philosophies was inspiring and led to...

adaptever

An adapter designed to adapt forever.
 

esmkr209

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When I got into the work force back in the mid-1970's it seemed
everyone dressed in a suit and tie, drank black coffee, smoked
their brains out, and worked their butts off. Today, golf shirts
have replaced suits, herbal tea and bottled water have replaced
coffee, nobody is allowed to smoke, and rarely does anyone work
beyond 5:00pm. More importantly, we used to care about the work we
produced; there was a sense of craftsmanship, regardless of the job.

My Brother-in-law in Cincinnati conducted me on a tour of his company's
machine-tool shop years ago and showed me how he could take a block of
aluminum and convert it into a high-precision machine tool. It was a
pleasure to watch him work, as it is to watch anyone who knows
what they are doing, be it a waitress, a programmer, a laborer or
a clerk.

Quality and service used to be considered paramount in this
country. If it wasn't just right, you were expected to do it over
again until you got it right. We cared about what we produced
because it was a reflection of our personal character and
integrity. But somewhere along the line we lost our way and
craftsmanship has fallen by the wayside. Why? Probably because
we no longer care.

We've also become a nation content with doing small things. America
used to be known as a powerhouse that could tackle large projects,
such as building skyscrapers, designing innovative bridges and tunnels
spanning substantial bodies of water, engineering transcontinental
railroads and highway systems, conquering air and space travel, and
defending freedom not just once but in two world wars. If you really
wanted something done, you talked to the Americans and no one else. Now
we get excited over iPods, cell phones, and other electronic trinkets.

I believe Craftsmanship is in decline due to the general apathy found
in today's society.

Some might say craftsmanship is a simple concept that we should
intuitively know. Not true; most people today have no comprehension as
to what makes up a good craftsman; they have either forgotten or it has
simply passed them by. Craftsmanship can be found in any field of endeavor
imaginable, be it in the product sector or service industry. Craftsmanship,
therefore, is universally applicable to any line of work.

Craftsmanship is not "workmanship", nor is it synonymous with quality,
although the three concepts are closely related. Let's begin by
giving "Craftsmanship" a definition: "The production and delivery
of quality goods or services from highly skilled workmen."

Quality relates to the absence of errors or defects in the finished
product or service. In other words, finished goods operate
according to their specifications (customers get precisely what
they ordered). Such products are normally durable and require minimal
maintenance. Craftsmanship produces quality products. In the absence
of craftsmen, a rigorous methodology or assembly line process is
required to produce quality goods using workers without the expertise
of craftsmen. Such processes detail "Who" is to perform "What" work,
"When", "Where", "Why" and "How" (5W+H), thereby assuring a quality
product or service is produced. Such is the underlying rationale of
the ISO 9000 certification as used by many companies today. The point
is, quality is not the exclusive domain of the craftsman.

Craftsmanship is also a human trait. Some might argue a computer or
industrial robot can produce quality products and are, therefore,
craftsmen. However, we must remember these devices are programmed by
human beings in accordance with the rules of the craftsman. As such,
they are an extension or tool of the craftsman.

Craftsmanship can be found in either the overall work process or
a section of it. For example, there are craftsmen who are intimate
with all facets of building furniture, such as a table, a chair or
desk, and can implement the product from start to finish. However,
as products grow in complexity, it becomes difficult to find people
suitably qualified to build them from the womb to the tomb. Consider
military weapons alone, such as the complicated ships, tanks, and
airplanes we now use, with thousands or millions of parts to
assemble. Such complexity makes it impossible for a single person
to have the expertise to build the whole product. The same is true
in the service sector where different types of expertise and
capabilities may be required. In other words, craftsmen have a
specific scope of work. The scope of work may relate to other
types of craftsmen through a chain of work dependencies, e.g.,
Craftsmen A, B and C concentrate on separate sub-assemblies which
are eventually joined into a single product.

There is one pitfall to all of this; today's "go-go" management
style fails to see how craftsmanship adds value to the company. In
fact, there were companies back in the 1980's that shut down such
programs simply to reduce costs. As a result, quality suffered,
repeat business was lost, products were more in need of repair,
absenteeism on the job escalated, etc. Want value? How does
a loyal customer base who has confidence in your products or
services sound? And what effect would employee harmony have,
particularly if they believed in the work they were producing? It
would be mind-boggling, all because we had faith in the human
spirit to produce superior results.

Just my opinion.

HCP

Hand
Crafted
Perfection

or

putus - pure
 
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TDM

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HI GUYS, just wont you to know that this is a great device in form and factor: anyone interested in a pre-release from Whatever , you can here:


http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/classifieds-swaps/16548-best-mod-forum-sale.html


cheers

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Well so much for making the price reasonable and affordable. Price in classified is $155. So whatever how about naming what price will be from YOU. I have read every post in this thread. You keep saying affordable, etc. So if chippez is selling his for 155 what is the price going to be??

Chippez dropped price from 155 to 135. So guess whatever is dropping price
 
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Multisync98

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Hi its not 155$ , but 135$, i corrected it because of euro ,and please dont forget the extras that goes with device , the price of the item 87$ + shipping , but only the device, cheers

Why isn't WhaTevR telling us this himself? I thought this was supposed to be affordable as well... $87 + shipping is still a bit steep.. Granted, it does look sleek, but $135 with extras, $87 without? I'd personally like to see better pics of this thing assembled and taken apart.

I'd also like to see the batteries it houses... There should be a "specs" list on this thing.. Including all information about how it preforms, etc.

-Jim
 
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TDM

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Why isn't WhaTevR telling us this himself? I thought this was supposed to be affordable as well... $87 + shipping is still a bit steep.. Granted, it does look sleek, but $135 with extras, $87 without? I'd personally like to see better pics of this thing assembled and taken apart.

I'd also like to see the batteries it houses... There should be a "specs" list on this thing.. Including all information about how it preforms, etc.

-Jim

Thats my question 235 posts and he keeps sidestepping the price issue.
 

chippez

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Hi again, the batteries that it holds are the cr123 3,6 v 880mah, in terms of comparison its not very dificult to see the diference , i used a S/D sometime ago and the they are similar the only diference is that it is cheaper than the S/D and probably better , but that depends if you ever had one , you would notice , like for ex: the button is a little bit inner than the S/D the , the way its made is very solid , simple plug and vape button , you can also order an adaptor for classic penstyle, so this is how it goes take the S/D and put it next to this one , and imagine that it is the upgrade of the S/D, like error corrected device , not much to say on this issue , massive vaper , nice taste and smooth , great throat hit , nice to hold (aluminium body ), nice button pressing no need to look for the button.


But even comparison , does not substitute the handcraft of this device,

It was also said in this thread that whatever wasnt making this for buisness, so thats why prices where not revealed.
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Multisync98

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Hi again, the batteries that it holds are the cr123 3,6 v 880mah, in terms of comparison its not very dificult to see the diference , i used a S/D sometime ago and the they are similar the only diference is that it is cheaper than the S/D and probably better , but that depends if you ever had one , you would notice , like for ex: the button is a little bit inner than the S/D the , the way its made is very solid , simple plug and vape button , you can also order an adaptor for classic penstyle, so this is how it goes take the S/D and put it next to this one , and imagine that it is the upgrade of the S/D, like error corrected device , not much to say on this issue , massive vaper , nice taste and smooth , great throat hit , nice to hold (aluminium body ), nice button pressing no need to look for the button.


But even comparison , does not substitute the handcraft of this device
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This still doesn't answer our questions! Where's WhaTeveR... Why isn't he talking to us about this? He's the designer, he should be here to help us with our questions and concerns.

-Jim
 

KoS

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poll: would you rather have something "hand made" or "mass produced"???? I'm not talking just e-cigs here but everything that we have come to "live" with in this day and age... Times sure have changed from the days of old.... are we better or worse off??? - just something I've been pondering lately.... I think maybe people don't care... they just want something reasonably priced that works - and won't kill them....

I would rather have hand-made. Just something about it. Each piece had a very unique character and a feeling that this was made for me and is special. If somthing would happen to it I would be sad. Unlike a mass produced POS you just get a lil sad then replace it with another POS


On the lighter side and only for a joke. How about:

Comunal
Recepter for
Atomizer
Power

C.R.A.P :D:lol::lol::lol::D
 
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