A Couple More Noob Questions

[ssmudgerr]

I'm still very new to vaping and I'm absolutely loving it. Not even considered picking up a dirty manual in weeks. My vaping is only becoming more and more enjoyable as I experiment with different flavours and strengths to get what is just right for me. Anyway, I had a couple of questions.

1. I'm a light to moderate vapor, and I'm still using the Ego CE4 Clearomizer that I got with my starter kit. In the last couple of days I have noticed a drop in flavour, and the cracking noise that I used to have is reduced a lot. Does that mean that the clearomizer is coming to the end of its life? I have a few 3.0mL MT3s on order with replacement heads, are these going to fit with my Ego? I bought them on a whim without doing enough research...
2. With Christmas coming up, I'm looking to upgrade to something variable and a little higher quality, perhaps a provari. Although, I am enjoying the simplicity of the setup I have now. Does a provari work in the same way in terms of clearomizers/cartomizers as my Ego?

I apologise if these questions are stupid. I'm still getting to grips with everything..

Cheers

 

[Russkiy]

Yes, a provari will be very similar, although I recommend getting into lower ohm atomizers if you're going to be rolling variable voltage.

I've never had a clearomizer die like that- usually it just starts to taste awful because the insides are all gunked/burnt up.

An Ego is 510 threaded. So any tank that states "510 threaded" or "ego threaded" will definitely work. I've noticed that about 90% of clearomizers sold are made for Ego-type batteries. This doesn't mean that they all are- but that's just from my personal experience.

Hope you enjoy your provari, i've never used one. I'm currently using an Ego-C Variable Voltage, but I'm waiting for a K100 in the mail.

Good luck, and happy vaping!

 

[Margate69]

The popping sound means it is starting to leak. I used MT3's for a long time before changing units (just before the T3S came out) and you will have to deal with leaky coils A LOT. It kind of sucks, that is why they came out with the S, it is cheaper to not have to replace the shoulder every single time.

Otherwise they are nice little tanks, pretty tough to break too.

I don't know much about the Provari, but I hear good things. Hope this helped!

 

[Russkiy]

The popping sound means it is starting to leak. I used MT3's for a long time before changing units (just before the T3S came out) and you will have to deal with leaky coils A LOT. It kind of sucks, that is why they came out with the S, it is cheaper to not have to replace the shoulder every single time.

Otherwise they are nice little tanks, pretty tough to break too.

I don't know much about the Provari, but I hear good things. Hope this helped!

I don't think he's talking about a gurgling sound. Ever notice how when you vape you hear the little crackling sound? Not like it's bubbling, more like the kind of crackling sound you hear from a campfire. I'm assuming this is what you meant, OP?

 

[Baditude]

I'm a light to moderate vapor, and I'm still using the Ego CE4 Clearomizer that I got with my starter kit. In the last couple of days I have noticed a drop in flavour, and the cracking noise that I used to have is reduced a lot. Does that mean that the clearomizer is coming to the end of its life? I have a few 3.0mL MT3s on order with replacement heads, are these going to fit with my Ego? I bought them on a whim without doing enough research...

The MT3's will fit your Ego just fine. They have an Ego thread on their connector.

With Christmas coming up, I'm looking to upgrade to something variable and a little higher quality, perhaps a provari. Although, I am enjoying the simplicity of the setup I have now. Does a provari work in the same way in terms of clearomizers/cartomizers as my Ego?

The Ego battery has both "Ego" and 510 thread connectors in one. So it can accept both ego threaded attachments as well as 510 threaded attachments. Most cartomizers are 510 threaded.

The Provari has only a 510 connector so without an adaptor, it can only accept 510 connector clearomizers. These would be the Innokin iClear 30, Kanger Protank, and Vision Vivi Nova clearomizers.

You can use an 510 to Ego adaptor to use Ego threaded clearomizers such as an Innokin iClear 16, Kanger Evod and MT3, and CE4 clearomizers. Provape sells such an adaptor Ego-T Adapter as do most of the major online e-cig vendors.

 

[sigtausteve]

There are no stupid questions here bro. Your clearos are probably at the end of their life. The usually last around 1-2 weeks depending on how often you vape and the kind of juice you use.
As far as the MT3s go. I wish you woul have done your research on those before purchasing. Every review I have seen on them and the personal experience I had with them was very bad. They flood and gurgle like CRAZY!! I went through a 1/4 of a tank, which is all I could get out of it case the rest of the juice either leaked out or shot up the air hole and into my mouth. I got frustrated and tossed it. You may have a different experience but I doubt it.
As far as the provari goes, it will work the same as your ego twist as far as having the ability to do variable voltage. That's about the only similarities they have with each other. The provari is the top mod in the VV/VW (variable volt/variable wattage). If your budget can allow a $200 mod and about $50 in batteries and a charger, go for it. You will not regret that decision. Of course there are other mods out there that you could check out as well. Do your research, there are many options. Color , button position, single button function v. multi button function, size, telescoping or non-telescoping, etc. look at it this way, would you buy a car with out researching it or are you gonna walk in the dealership and pick the first one you see? Good luck buddy.


Boom goes the dynamite!

 

[DetraMental]

I've never heard that the popping sound means it's leaking. I know if you aren't getting much vape it's probably flooding and ya need to check your battery reservoir and get it outta there. Meaning take the clearo off and look down in the 510 area and check for fluid, use a q-tip or the corner of a paper towel to clean it up. The provari has a 510 connection. Not certain about the ego connection. You could check it out at provape.com.

 

[docp1620]

It sounds like it's time for a dry burn to clean the gunk off the wick and coil. there are several you tube videos on this, but the quick and dirty is with the tank empty and cleaned/ rinsed out with the drip tip off fire your ce4 using short pulses this burn off the gunk and clean out the silica wick keep going until you can see the the coils clearly and the wick quits hissing. should be good for a while. the provari does not have ego threads so you will want to get so 510 to ego adapters enjoy!

 

[Margate69]

Happened a lot with my ego-c with an MT3 on it. As soon as I started to hear a loud popping, they began to leak into the air tube and all the way up to my mouth.

 

[dam718]

The MT3's you ordered will work fine with your eGo battery. You may experience some leaking/gurgling, but I have a video on my ECF blog that can help to resolve those issues.

If you decide to get a Provari, keep in mind that a Provari is a 510 only mod. Meaning that it only has 510 threading, and no eGo threading. There are only a handful of "big battery" VV/VW mods out there that will accommodate the MT3 clearomizers. MT3's are eGo only devices, and will require a 510-eGo adapter to work properly with the Provari.

There are a lot of other devices out there... Even though I absolutely love the Provari, there is no shame in getting your feet wet with a lower cost device like a Zmax or even a Vamo. This will let you experiment with different devices and start to understand how VV interacts with the coil and juices you choose to use without laying down $200 as your initial investment. And they make a great backup device if/when you do decide to step up to a Provari.

Because you will need to use different clearomizers when you do decide to run a bigger mod, I would suggest something familiar, like a Kanger ProTank 2. They are basically a much better built MT3. It's a 510 threaded bottom coil stainless steel construction clearomizer with a pyrex glass tank. They run about $18 on average, and the replacement heads are readily available. They also look great on just about any APV out there, including the Provari.

BTW: If it's been several weeks and you're still using the same CE4, what I imagine you are experiencing is where the coil has started to get very gunked up from burnt juice, and it is saturating into the wick. It makes it start to taste really bad, not as much juice is getting wicked to the coil (hence no more sizzle like you heard before), and the coil will eventually break. Sounds like you need to go ahead and replace it.

 

[ssmudgerr]

Wow, I'm continually amazed by the helpfulness of this forum. 6 replies in 15 mins! I'm trying to work out how to quote multiple posts but, in the meantime.

Yes, I was referring to the crackling sound. I had an issue with a bubbling sound that I resolved by youtubing it and clearing out the coils. Worked like a charm. The issue I referred to was that the crackling, campfire sound has become silent and there has been a drop in flavour, but I'm trying a different flavour juice so maybe that's it.

That is a damn shame about the MT3S. I posted on here for advice on cost-effective vaping that that was the recommendation I got. Never mind, they were only cheap. Anything you would recommend instead to use with my Ego until I can afford an upgrade?

Thanks again!

 

[samcm010]

Far less expensive than provari is the MVP2 cannot recommend enough and works perfectly with Evods, Pro Tanks, Clearomizers ect. If you love it then you can invest in Provari. I would also suggest doing some reading on cartomizers and carto tanks. Very short learning curve really affordable. I have several K Funs, Russians and hybrid Genesis but someone suggested cartos for snowboarding and I have 3 in rotation at all times taste is close to dripping.

 

[dam718]

Not all MT3's are going to have the nasty problems... Some of them work great, and some of them don't... A LOT of them don't...

Check out my blog here or my YouTube channel, and there is a video that can help you tame your MT3's if you have bad luck with them. Many folks have had good luck following the tips I've provided.

IMO, if you're looking for something easy to use with your eGo batteries, Cartomizers with slim tanks work well, and the CE4 "Stardust" style clearomizers work well. Perhaps also a Mini Vivi Nova. I haven't seen too many folks with good reviews on the Mini Pro Tank, but the full sized ProTank 2 has worked well for me... Would be a bit top heavy on an eGo battery though, although they do include a skirt to make it look better...

 

[Baditude]

I personally prefer the Innokin iClear 30 clearomizers. Easy top fill, 16 string wicks, coils heads are replaceable, adjustable mouthpiece, large 3 ml juice capacity, colors to match your battery, 510 connection will work both on an Ego or 510 mod.




Is it a carto, a tank, or what?

Baditude's Cartotank Setup Guide

 

[dam718]

I don't care for the look if the iClear 30's, but that's just me... Lots of folks love them!

I have to throw out that the Innoken MVP2 mentioned by samcm010 looks like a fantastic device. There are a few limitations... 3.3V-5V is the range (rather than the 3V-6V range found on many other VV devices), and for VW it only goes from 6W-11W rather than the 3W-15W found on others. This is a similar limitation as that found with the eVic. What I like about the MVP is that it has a flat DC output. It's not using the traditional pulse width modulated on/off 0-6V duty cycle seen in a lot of its peers. This should give you a very smooth vaping experience. Using atomizers in the 2 Ohm range should give you plenty of voltage / power options to find a point on it's limited range that you like. Using lower / higher ohm atomizers with it seem to hit it's lower and upper limits of voltage. It will not fire below 3.3V or higher than 5 volts...

Sorry if that's a bunch of greek speak... LoL... All that said, the MVP2 looks like a nice device to enter into the VV/VW party as long as you don't mind a box mod and can work within its limitations. It's built well, has a pretty long battery life, and has that nice flat DC output. They also come with an iClear 30 clearomizer, so you can try that out at the same time! I think they run about $60 for the MVP2, so for a nice price point you get a nice device to get your feet wet until you can afford to drop some benjamins on the table for a Provari

 

[LDS714]

I have and use a couple of devices that will fit the bill for you. One is the Vamo, and the other is the MVP.

Both have eGo and 510 connectors. Both are variable voltage as well as variable wattage, well, the MVP V2 (current version) is variable wattage, the original isn't.

The vamo is a tube mod, that takes various battery sizes. With one of those, you'll need batteries and a charger.

The MVP is a 'box' mod, with a built-in battery. Battery life is exemplary, and it can even be used as a power pack to charge you phone with it's USB output.

IMHO, the MVP is the more solid and reliable of the two. It can be used as a 'passthrough,' i.e., can be used while it's charging. On the vamos that I have, the 510 connector center pin seems to be the weak point. Screwing a 510 device into it too hard can cause it to malfunction.

My experience wirh MT3 and the similar Evod devices has been very positive.

There are other devices out there that will do what you want, but these are the two I can recommend from personal experience...

 

[samcm010]

I have and use a couple of devices that will fit the bill for you. One is the Vamo, and the other is the MVP.

Both have eGo and 510 connectors. Both are variable voltage as well as variable wattage, well, the MVP V2 (current version) is variable wattage, the original isn't.

The vamo is a tube mod, that takes various battery sizes. With one of those, you'll need batteries and a charger.

The MVP is a 'box' mod, with a built-in battery. Battery life is exemplary, and it can even be used as a power pack to charge you phone with it's USB output.

IMHO, the MVP is the more solid and reliable of the two. It can be used as a 'passthrough,' i.e., can be used while it's charging. On the vamos that I have, the 510 connector center pin seems to be the weak point. Screwing a 510 device into it too hard can cause it to malfunction.

My experience wirh MT3 and the similar Evod devices has been very positive.

There are other devices out there that will do what you want, but these are the two I can recommend from personal experience...

Agree on both and have owned both.. The MVP2 is better quality but it is a box mod. Before I got it I wondered if I would like the feel but I really did. Only just traded it for Zen DX650 due to DNA20 box mod on the way. The vamo was great as well I think I picked up a black v2 for like $20.00 on fasttech. My only complaint about the v2 was there is very little airflow for things with bottom airflow. I think the later versions fixed this. The MVP2 has airflow and the beauty ring is easily drilled out to add even more.

 

[ssmudgerr]

What does the ohm refer to with the MT3S clearomizers? The MT3s are 2.2-2.6ohm and the replacement heads are 1.8ohm. What does this mean??


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[Baditude]

What does the ohm refer to with the MT3S clearomizers? The MT3s are 2.2-2.6ohm and the replacement heads are 1.8ohm. What does this mean??

You can think of ohms kind of like the "watts" on a light bulb. It is a measurement of how much voltage the heating coil will pull from the battery.

Low resistance (smaller numbers) will use more energy, so the heating coil will burn quicker and hotter for a warmer vapor. This resistance is mostly used for fixed voltage battery devices such as mechanical mods.

Standard resistance (higher numbers) will use less energy than a LR coil, so the heating coil will not burn as quickly or as hot, for a middle of the road vapor.

Higher resistance (even higher numbers) will use yet less energy, so the heating coil will provide a cooler vapor. These are mostly used for regulated mods like a Vamo, MVP, or Provari. This resistance will allow for a wider range of useable voltages than will a LR or SR coil.

 

[ssmudgerr]

I think my question actually needs to be - can I use heads of a different resistance to the clearo? Have I ordered wrong? Damn drunken internet shopping...


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