A couple of DIY questions

[JamezC]

So I'm thinking about giving DIY a try and was looking at the unflavored nic juice or "smoke juice" from myfreedomsmokes. I vape 12mg and the lowest nic content it comes in is 24mg so I'm guessing I would have to dilute it to my desired strength using some pg/vg?

My other question is about storage, I don't vape a ton so a fairly large bottle would last me for months more than likely, would it be fine to just store it somewhere dark and cool like a cabinet?

I'd appreciate any advice, tips, etc that you could offer

 

[yo han]

To make 12mg juice using a 24mg base liquid you need to dilute it with the same amount of zero nic liquid+flavor.
For example, when you're going to use 10% flavor, the recipe will be:
50% of 24% liquid
40% of zero nic liquid
10% flavor

Storage (for a long time) would be best in a fridge or freezer.
But if it's only a couple o' months, a cool dark place is fine.

 

[JamezC]

So basically, if I were to use 5ml of 24mg nic I'd have to use 5ml or zero nic to dilute it?

 

[awsum140]

Yes, that ratio would work, but don't forget you'll be adding flavors, typically ten percent to twenty-five percent or more. Download a good DIY mixing calculator like this one -

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0ByHCyknRKMBCWTBwN0ZHVGM4Y00&usp=sharing
it'll take all the questions out of it and show you exactly what you need to mix.

 

[yo han]

So basically, if I were to use 5ml of 24mg nic I'd have to use 5ml or zero nic to dilute it?

Well, yes. But like I (and awsum140) said, you want flavor as well.
So to get 12mg liquid you need 50% of your 24mg nic liquid + a total of 50% of whatever you want to add, be it flavor, saliva, water, PG, VG or whatever. As long as you mix 2 equal volumes you'll get 12mg/ml.

 

[JamezC]

Alrightey that makes sense then, I decided to get everything but the nic juice from wizardlabs (since they were out of 12mg nic in lower quantities) so I can give it a go. Thank you both for the help! I already downloaded and took a look at that e-liquid calculator so I'll make sure to use it when everything comes in

 

[yo han]

Well, it's better to start out with a higher nic level than what you want to achieve anyway.
Say you'd bought the 12mg nic liq and added a flavor which needs to be used at a 20% level:
This would mean you'd have to mix 80% of your nic liq with 20% flavor. This would result in a final product containing only 80% of your 12mg nicotine which equals 9.6mg. That's quite a bit less than what you wanted.

 

[JamezC]

Yeah you've got a point, I hadn't really thought of that. I still haven't ordered yet as I'm not in a hurry. Hey, I was looking at the options and would it be more efficient to get the nic juice in 100%pg or vg then just get a bottle of the other to dilute it with?

 

[cookiebun]

If I were you I'd try to order some 60mg nic. That gives you room for trial and error and is more cost effective.

My favorite juice calculator is e-juice me up
eJuice Me Up - Best eJuice Calculator

 

[JamezC]

I would only need to use very small amounts of nic since I'd just be diluting it right?

 

[yo han]

When using 60mg nic liquid to make 30ml of 12mg juice with 10% flavor you would need:

6ml of 60mg nicotine liquid
21ml of PG/VG
3ml of flavor

 

[savagemann]

Don't forget to leave room for VG.
I usually shoot for a 50/50 pg/vg ratio.
All personal preference, but without some VG, vapor productiojn will be low.
Also, high PG mixes also have more throat hit, which some like, but I personally, don't.

 

[JamezC]

I actually just got in some 24mg nic juice from wizard labs, it's based with vg so I've just been adding pg to it. I downloaded the eJuice Me Up calculator and I gotta say...it helps tremendously.