The fact that the fire department had to be called and he was sent to a burn unit isn't enough for you?!
A faulty battery caused an electronic cigarette to explode
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His hands were protected by the metal of the tube. This wasn't a pipe bomb explosion. This was a thermal runaway incident. Pressure built up and blew out the cap that holds the atty/carto, effectively turning that part into a bullet/missile. The tube turned into a flamethrower.
Imagine a bottle rocket or a Roman candle. The tube stays in tact, but either expels violent flames, or is propelled by the force of gases and flame.
I guess if your want to see pictures you should Read this Thread.
I trust the OP of it to Not Overstate the Possibility of an e-Cig/Battery to harm someone.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ures-serious-battery-failure-imr-18650-a.html
This is what I want to know. This news is being broadcast internationally (my mom from South Africa asked me if I'd heard about it) and it's being dramatized in the news here. I want to know some more details, such as what make/ type of e-cig was it?
We don't hear this much news every time a cell phone or laptop battery explodes and it does worry me a little that this will be used to make even buying e-cigs more difficult to get here
I don't think his injuries are being mis-reported as that would be far too easy to check up on.
This is what I want to know. This news is being broadcast internationally (my mom from South Africa asked me if I'd heard about it) and it's being dramatized in the news here. I want to know some more details, such as what make/ type of e-cig was it? We don't hear this much news every time a cell phone or laptop battery explodes and it does worry me a little that this will be used to make even buying e-cigs more difficult to get here
We do hear this much news the first time a laptop or cellphone or iphone explodes - but it can die off more quickly and these products don't often have dedicated forums for basic users.
You ask a great question: - "will this story be used to make buying ecigs ever more difficult?"....That really depends on how the whole community responds and what information we have and how we deal with it.
Batteries explode. They do. It's not common. It's rare. Yet it happens - with all electronics.
For the type of damage described though - it's more than a reasonable assumption that the exploding battery was housed (either correctly or incorrectly) in a metal tube mod - with the possibility that the battery used was either the wrong kind or not used correctly.
Commercial ecigs are generally created with a soft or weak spot on the opposite end from the atomizer. So if a battery does ignite - the bottom pops off and the pressure escapes. (ie: look out for your coffee cup).
Many manufacturers ARE - right now - double checking their designs to make sure that this is what would happen in the event of a battery failure.
As for mods - just like when this occurs in any industry - discussions are happening. Modders will be looking at their creations, checking their designs and hopefully finding ways to improve on the design to prevent or minimize damage. This is a good thing. If and when questioned by any authority - modders will have answers - things discussed - steps taken, etc.
It's not possible to prevent batteries from occasionally exploding or igniting - not in toothbrushes, ipods, iphones, laptops, cars, etc... It's stored energy - so it's vulnerable to problems.
Responding to problems shows an industry that is maturing - and that can give far greater credibility than responding with an "I don't know what happened". It also builds on good safety practises.
The fact that no one knows what PV he was using, or what actually happened makes me question this...
For all we know his "den" could have been filled with "Propane and other flammable substances" for the Fire Dept. to be called in...
I can go to a burn ward for putting a match out on my arm... it doesn't mean i'm in critical condition.
Has anyone actually witnessed first hand a lithium battery go off?
I sure have!
it was a 4000mAh 11.1V 3 cell pack & 6000mAh 7.4V 2cell pack...(two seperate occasions) Both of which had a 40C discharge rate. and these are Li-Po's... way more violent than Li-Ion
It STILL had no where near the violent failure that the PV supposedly was reported to have.
So unless he was vaping out of a homemade copper/steel un-vented pipe mod with double stacked 3100mAh 18650's
I CALL COMPLETE BULL $#!%^ !
And if my ecig batt fails in my garage and ignites gasoline and propane stored there and burns my house down, YOU call BS and say ecigs are OK and nothing to worry about. Sound like a fanboy to me!
I'm not calling BS on the situation, its very possible that this could have happened, I'm calling BS on what was reported to have happened...
I think this was way over exaggerated and did not happen the way the media reported it.
All the stories i've read, have no actual proof, just speculation and words from people that were not there when it happened.
Untill i see images of a closet that is completely black and covered with fire damage, and a video of a guy talking with missing teeth and burn marks on his face, i just wont believe what is being said on the media.
This is my view... Don't crucify me for not being a sheep and believing everything that is reported in the media...
Keep in mind, that not too long ago, the news reported that we are all vaping anti-freeze,so we should all be dead by now.
I think this was way over exaggerated and did not happen the way the media reported it.
All the stories i've read, have no actual proof, just speculation and words from people that were not there when it happened.
Untill i see images of a closet that is completely black and covered with fire damage, and a video of a guy talking with missing teeth and burn marks on his face, i just wont believe what is being said on the media.
This is my view... Don't crucify me for not being a sheep and believing everything that is reported in the media...
Keep in mind, that not too long ago, the news reported that we are all vaping anti-freeze,so we should all be dead by now.
There are two agencies that disseminate news to all corners of the world.
The Associated Press and Reuters.
Like a ticker tape for news agencies to pick up stories if they wish.
Just some info so people don't get the idea that this story is international
because all news agencies found it on their own by some great outpouring of
interest.
The Associated Press and Reuters.
Like a ticker tape for news agencies to pick up stories if they wish.
Just some info so people don't get the idea that this story is international
because all news agencies found it on their own by some great outpouring of
interest.
^^^^what he said^^^^
That is the method that 95% of all news is disseminated today - even with stories that are of great interest to everyone.
During all the wars of late - only a handful of journalists are on the front lines - writing info that's sold to other press outlets.
it can happen with mods that have no weak points or ventholes, its the same principle as having a firecracker explode on your palm and one with your hands closed around it. The one on your palm will barely do anything but some noise, the one with your hands closed on it will do some serious damage. My best guess is that the mod had no designed weak points and no vent holes and once pressure was high enough it when through and blew the atomizer into his mouth with jets of hot gas and metal. this is possible because without a build in weak point the atomizer might well be the only weak point of the mod, or it could explode like a grenade.
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