A few questions from a e-cig newbie...

[Lyrikal]

Hey everyone, I'm new to the world of e-cigarettes and just had a few questions.

I recently purchased the Smoking Everywhere Gold One Edition kit, and am really impressed with the results in terms of not having the need to smoke a cigarette after using this thing (I usually smoke about 3-4 packs a week for about 12-13 years) However, I'm not too satisfied with the short life span of the cartridges (I would say 4-5 smokes) and the battery life span (once or twice a day), and after some research I realized there's a lot of competition with better products for the same or better price. I'd rather step up rather than buy another battery and more cartridges that don't seem to last. May as well look good too.

So first off, what are the major differences between a cheap and expensive e-cig besides looks and life span? I was looking at getting the E8 after looking at this chart I found (https://e-cig.com/shopping/shopcontent.asp?type=comparison) Is this your average e-cig for a decent price?

The other thing I realized, it was a 2 piece instead of a 3 piece, and apparently that's the better technology? So my question is, are the 2 piece refillable? Cause if they are only disposable, cost of use is much higher since I can't use my own e-fluid.

Last question, I'm thinking about adding a little bit of glycerin USP to make it more of a smokey effect, is this safe? Because I know it's a main ingredient that causes the smoke in the first place.

Thanks for any advice...

 

[Gabe1291]

Check out MistressNomad's vid stickie at the top of this section. She has alot of your answers in her first vid, though all of the vids are really helpful. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-videos-newbies-particular-broke-newbies.html

 

[stouchon]

As far as the kit is concerned, it is mainly personal preference. The more mah of the battery the longer it will last. Your smoking everywhere has a 180mah battery. 750mah seems to get me through the day, but I use a 900mah setup.

I like both 2(cartomizer) and 3(atomizer) piece cartridges. Normally I use the royal smokers ce2 xl carto's. They are a cartomizer that do not come prefilled. You have to use a syringe to fill them, but they hold 1.5ml of juice which is what I use in a day.

I believe that glycerin USP is what is referred to as VG (vegetable glycerin) in the vaping community. It is perfectly safe and can be used as your base ingredient. I like about 20%, it is thicker but provides more vapor.

 

[cskent]

Hi and welcome to ECF. I started on a SE and can tell you that there's much better e-cig's out there for a lot less $$$. If you want one the size of a cig look at the 510 or KR808 as shown in the video's linked in Gabe1291's post. The batt's will still not last very long on those units though. The bigger the batt, the longer it'll run. I moved from the SE to the 510 and found that I was recharging batt's about every 2 or 3 hours. KR808's will go around 4 or 5 hours for the average vaper. If you want something that's gonna last longer look at the eGo or Riva with a 650mah batt or larger. I moved to the Mega eGo with 900mah batt's after the 510 and they go around 12 hours or more.

You can get a 510 starter kit for around $35 or so here 510 Auto Battery Kit (Black), no Box
The best price on a KR808 that I've seen is here Kr808d-1 starter kit: kr808d-1 cartomizers, kr808d battery and more! Kr808d-1 kit from LiteCigUSA!
And, an eGo or Riva at a decent price here Electronic Cigarette - Starter Kits - Riva 510

All of these have 2 complete e-cigs in the kit. I'd recommend you watch the videos before looking too much because they'll answer a lot of questions you may have. If you're still not sure about something, just post again with specific questions and you'll get lots of responses from some very knowledgeable people.

 

[B-Rad_The_Mad_Vapr]

As far as the kit is concerned, it is mainly personal preference. The more mah of the battery the longer it will last. Your smoking everywhere has a 180mah battery. 750mah seems to get me through the day, but I use a 900mah setup.

I like both 2(cartomizer) and 3(atomizer) piece cartridges. Normally I use the royal smokers ce2 xl carto's. They are a cartomizer that do not come prefilled. You have to use a syringe to fill them, but they hold 1.5ml of juice which is what I use in a day.

I believe that glycerin USP is what is referred to as VG (vegetable glycerin) in the vaping community. It is perfectly safe and can be used as your base ingredient. I like about 20%, it is thicker but provides more vapor.

I use a 2900mAh battery and it lasts me about a day! and don't use carts or cartos, I use an auto feed system. I mix my juice w/ a 60/40%-PG/VG

 

[stouchon]

I was pretty impressed from the picture you posted on another thread. Have you done any research on putting juice into an iv bag and just mainlining the stuff?

 

[B-Rad_The_Mad_Vapr]

I was pretty impressed from the picture you posted on another thread. Have you done any research on putting juice into an iv bag and just mainlining the stuff?

LOL, but then I wouldn't taste the good flavors! There was a bost yesterday from a guy in Germany that said get ready for a chuckle and told a story about how he was using a syringe to fill carts and the cat cot scared from something and jumped on him digging claws and he jumped and shot himself up w/ about 2 ml and got all nauseous http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/141844-ok-i-am-newb-get-ready-laugh.html

 

[Lyrikal]

Thanks for the feedback, so what I got was that the more mAh, the more life span, which means the bigger the battery I'm assuming... Any other features that vary with other units? How about suction or silence?

Also if the disposables are refillable (cartomizer) and they are supposed to be better, then is there any advantages with using the atomizer? wouldn't buying cartomizers be more pricey than buying empty filters in the long run?

Thanks again...

 

[B-Rad_The_Mad_Vapr]

Thanks for the feedback, so what I got was that the more mAh, the more life span, which means the bigger the battery I'm assuming... Any other features that vary with other units? How about suction or silence?

Also if the disposables are refillable (cartomizer) and they are supposed to be better, then is there any advantages with using the atomizer? wouldn't buying cartomizers be more pricey than buying empty filters in the long run?

Thanks again...

You get about 5 cartomizers for about the price of 1 atty, you can Mod the atty by removing the polly filler and using "rite size U" pieces (blue foam aquarium filter found at any pet store) to eliminate replacing cartridges. The cartomizers will last 3-5 days (or 5-7 refills) and the atty should last at least a month. I only use attys and don't need the cartridge w/ my feed system

 

[Lyrikal]

So you mean the atomizer on my SE would likely need to be replaced every month or so? So the warranty only covers the battery on these things? And why would I worry about the cost of cartomizers if I simply just refill them? Do I get more life out of an empty filter for a atomizer than 5-7 refills? I gotta admit, you lost me in the "eliminate replacing catridges) part :/ But no worries...

 

[B-Rad_The_Mad_Vapr]

cartomizers are disposible and good for about 5 to 7 refills, atomizers are also considered disposable (neither are warrantied other than dead on arrival) cartomizers are 5 for about $7 and atomizers are about $7 each, the atomizer will last an average of a month under heavy use. The cartridges for attomizeres (plastic mouthpiece) has a poly filler in it and you can replace that stuff very cheaply by using a 3/4" x 3/4" piece of this in place of the poly and not need to buy new cartridges Marineland Magnum Foam Sleeve "Rite-Size U" 3pk.

 

[cskent]

A 2 piece unit has a battery (batt) and cartomizer (aka carto). KR808's are 2 piece.
A 3 piece unit has a battery, an atomizer (atty), and a cartridge (cart). 510's and eGo's are 3 piece, but you can make them a 2 piece if you buy carto's for them.

510's are about the size of a regular 100 cig and have a batt mah rating of around 180. You'll be constantly recharging with this one but it's smaller.
The KR808 is about 280mah. It's a little larger than a 100 size traditional cig. You'll be recharging less than a 510, but still several times a day.
An eGo is 650mah for the small one to 1300 for the largest. It's a 510 threading, but much larger battery. It's about the size of a 40 ring cigar. Two batt's will likely last all day.

Atty's cost around $7 or $8 each. A 5 pack of carto's lasts around the same amount of time as 1 atty. Atty's use either cart's or a drip tip. Cart's need to be replaced often, like daily, or replace the filler. It gets compacted and doesn't work right after a while. It's a hassle but not a big deal. A drip tip is just a hollow tube you drip juice directly into your atty. You'll get around 20 decent hits off a fresh cart, like 2 cig's worth. Most, but not all, serious vapers using atty's go to drip tips. Just drip 3 drops of juice on your atty and you'll get around 12 good hits. Quick and easy refills, unless you're driving or something.

Carto's are an atty and cart combined into one unit. They hold a lot more juice so you can go for longer between refills. They'll last anywhere from a few refills to a few weeks, you don't know till it gives out on you or starts tasting funky. They're considered disposable. They're great for on the go because you can puff on them for an hour or more. Some people like them, others don't.

The benefit of the 510 is you can use it as either a 2 piece or 3 piece. Some people prefer the KR808 because of it's size and a bit better battery life, and some feel it lets the flavor of the juice through better too. I've used the 510 but not a KR808 so can't really comment on that. I hope that answers some of your questions.

 

[hlzr]

One big difference between models, if you haven't figured it out yet, is the thread size on the batteries/atomizers. I'd get 510 threads if I were you, since that seems to be the most popular at the moment. Some people like atomizers/cartomizers on different thread sizes, but you can buy adapters from 510 to the other thread size (but not from my battery's size to the other thread size...). So get 510 threads for your battery; my friend has a Hello 016 ($22/battery, 1300mAh, uses same charger as the eGo) that he is really happy with. I'm using some whacky thread size that I'm trying to get off of; somebody designed my e-cig with the goal of squeezing me for some extra cash or something.

 

[Lyrikal]

Alright, you've all been really helpful, thank you... Just one more thing before I narrow it down to a winner...

What's the main difference between the e-cigs that I'm reading about on here a lot (510, KR808, eGo, Riva, etc) and the ones that are popping up in internet reviews (V2, Premium, Blu, Green Smoke, etc)... I mean, is it just branding? Or is quality a factor? I'm thinking of going with the eGo, it's a lil on the larger side, but I want something with at least a 500+ mAh and that's got good reviews, plus looks pretty slick ...

Thanks again...

 

[908Tracy]

Lyrikal,

Since you are leaning towards the eGo, I say...go for it, you won't be sorry!!! I've had both blu, Kr808 (V2cigs) and now my eGo. As long as you aren't "needing" it to look like an analog, don't want to be hassled with frequent recharging, it is the way to go IMO.
Be sure to let us know what you think once you receive it!~

 

[Lyrikal]

How did you compare the Blu to the eGo, besides battery life span anyways? Because Blu is my close second choice, looks simple and slick and has a useful rechargable fake cigarette carrying box that looks pretty awesome.

Yeah I am leaning moreso on the eGo though, mostly for the battery size... But I'm hoping to find one of equal quality and style but maybe without the centre steel decorative thing, cause I'd rather just have it straight black all the way, or a small gold/silver seam is okay... Just a little more visual research I guess.

 

[CBiz]

How did you compare the Blu to the eGo, besides battery life span anyways? Because Blu is my close second choice, looks simple and slick and has a useful rechargable fake cigarette carrying box that looks pretty awesome.

Yeah I am leaning moreso on the eGo though, mostly for the battery size... But I'm hoping to find one of equal quality and style but maybe without the centre steel decorative thing, cause I'd rather just have it straight black all the way, or a small gold/silver seam is okay... Just a little more visual research I guess.

I actually like the Blu for how small and simple it is and yes the pack is easily the best thing about it. However... stay away from that company. Completely worthless customer service. Processing/shipping times are some of the worst I've dealt with. I've still got my Blu floating around and I use it from time to time but even my JOYE 510 blows it out of the water. It was a great marketed product to get me started on e-cigs so I'm greatfull for that but I would have saved a ton of money if I would have researched more.

 

[Gabe1291]

The Blu's battery life is bad, at least for me as a heavy vaper. It's a micro so it's petite battery size hampers it long term use. The PCC that comes with it helps by letting you charge on the go, but you can get a pcc for the eGo as well as the USB pass-thru, which you can't get for the Blu. It would take my Blu's PCC about an hour to charge a batt, but I could kill the same batt in less than 45 mins of heavy vaping, so the second wouldn't even be finished charging, leaving me in a very bad mood until it charged. I say go with the eGo, you can get parts and accessories for it a lot easier than you can for Blu. With Blu the only place to get parts for them easily is through Blu's website, and their customer service is lacking.

 

[deback]

How did you compare the Blu to the eGo, besides battery life span anyways? Because Blu is my close second choice, looks simple and slick and has a useful rechargable fake cigarette carrying box that looks pretty awesome.

Yeah I am leaning moreso on the eGo though, mostly for the battery size... But I'm hoping to find one of equal quality and style but maybe without the centre steel decorative thing, cause I'd rather just have it straight black all the way, or a small gold/silver seam is okay... Just a little more visual research I guess.

You can cover the threads in the middle of the eGo with a cover cone. The price ranges from about $4 to $6 for the atomizer/cartomizer cover cone.

I used a Volcano l88b kit (very similar to blu) briefly when I started vaping. The battery originally lasted about 45 minutes, with little power during the last 15 minutes. Then, a few days later, it lasted for 30 minutes (little power during the last 15 minutes), and a few days later, 20 minutes, and then 10 minutes. The PCC that came with the kit was pretty worthless. It charged the battery but I couldn't tell when the battery was fully charged. It has four bars, which were usually showing all four bars, even when the PCC needed to be charged. I think the store owner sold me two of his display batteries and a display PCC. Overall, it was a waste of $108, including the bottle of liquid I bought from that store. Probably couldn't even give it all away.

I have 11 eGos now and thinking about buying 3 more black 650mAh eGos at Liberty Flights. I love these short little 650mAh eGos! Thought I liked the 900s the best, but not anymore, since receiving my first 650mAh kit on Wednesday.

 

[908Tracy]

How did you compare the Blu to the eGo, besides battery life span anyways? Because Blu is my close second choice, looks simple and slick and has a useful rechargable fake cigarette carrying box that looks pretty awesome.

Yeah I am leaning moreso on the eGo though, mostly for the battery size... But I'm hoping to find one of equal quality and style but maybe without the centre steel decorative thing, cause I'd rather just have it straight black all the way, or a small gold/silver seam is okay... Just a little more visual research I guess.

I'm sorry.....just getting back to the forum. I didn't use either the blu or the V2 for very long I'm afraid. The blu just did not come anywhere near meeting my needs as a 1.5 PAD smoker, so that went back for a refund within two weeks. (no vapor, I thought I was going to cave my face in trying to get a decent hit!!!) The V2, produced much more vapor, but I could not handle the straight PG their carts are filled with. (coughed my head off, and got instant headaches....no fun!) Their backorder situation is a friggin' nightmare, but their customer service tries hard to please. Anyways, of the two blu or Kr808D (V2) the V2 worked better IMO. I then found this forum, sent the V2 back within a week and decided on an eGo as it better suits my needs as a heavier smoker. I am not bad mouthing any companies, just stating the differences "I" experienced, as asked.
There are those who really like Vapor 4 Life....have you looked at their site? Maybe you would like their kits as I don't think they have the silver band in the center. Just a suggestion...I hope you find the PV you desire!!! Happy vaping!~