A few questions from a newbie

[MrsKite]

I use a eGo 510, I have a few tanks (not sure what kind) they have wicks in them and hold 2 mil. So far I have loved the taste and vape that I get with my tanks.

If I drip into my attys that came with my kit I don't get a lot of vape and the taste is ok.. am I doing something wrong?

At the store where I bought my kit (Vapin in The Cape) They gave me an atty I don't know what it is (it's silver with a white tip) I drip in that and love the flavor but not much vape. It's also hard to drip into that tiny hole.

I bought some VG (all my others are PG) juice today and it's ok in the silver atty (again not much vape) but taste burnt in my tank. Wow really didn't like that at all.

I like to change flavors often so how do I get the vape and taste dripping?

Thanks in advance....

 

[Baditude]

It's a little difficult to advise you on your current gear, as the description you gave is just too generalized. I don't know if you're dripping on a drip atomizer or a cartomizer. I'm assuming that the silver "atty" the store gave you is one or the other with a white drip tip (mouthpiece?). I don't have a clue which tanks you have; can you provide a link to an image that they look like?

If the silver atty has filler in it that looks like a cigarette filter, that's a cartomizer. If it looks pretty much empty, it's a dripping atomizer. With either one, you should be able to remove the white tip in order to add juice, and then replace it to vape.

A cartomizer's wick or polyfill needs to be totally saturated with juice before vaping it. It should have the appearance of a slushy drink. Do not get any juice into the center air hole. A wood toothpick carefully placed in the hole can accomplish that.

A drip atomizer can only take a few drops of juice at a time. Then you can vape for a few puffs. When the flavor starts to taste burnt, you must add a few more drops of juice.

This picture dictionary might help you decide which juice delivery attachment that you have. All the devices described have a video that shows how to fill and use them: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...k-what-primer-juice-delivery-attachments.html

 

[AttyPops]

For the benefit of Mrs. Kite,
there will be a show tonight on vape-o-line.
The wattages will all there,
Late of juice's burning glare, what a scene!........



Do you happen to know what ohms (resistance) the atomizer is? Sounds like it may not be a good match up.
How many drops did you put in it (of normal juice)?
Does it have a bridge in the center (a post type of thing?)

 

[The Ocelot]

Hi

Vapin' in the Cape has a website. Is it possible for you to post links to the products you have?

 

[MrsKite]

It's a little difficult to advise you on your current gear, as the description you gave is just too generalized. I don't know if you're dripping on a drip atomizer or a cartomizer. I'm assuming that the silver "atty" the store gave you is one or the other with a white drip tip (mouthpiece?). I don't have a clue which tanks you have; can you provide a link to an image that they look like?

If the silver atty has filler in it that looks like a cigarette filter, that's a cartomizer. If it looks pretty much empty, it's a dripping atomizer. With either one, you should be able to remove the white tip in order to add juice, and then replace it to vape.

A cartomizer's wick or polyfill needs to be totally saturated with juice before vaping it. It should have the appearance of a slushy drink. Do not get any juice into the center air hole. A wood toothpick carefully placed in the hole can accomplish that.

A drip atomizer can only take a few drops of juice at a time. Then you can vape for a few puffs. When the flavor starts to taste burnt, you must add a few more drops of juice.

This picture dictionary might help you decide which juice delivery attachment that you have. All the devices described have a video that shows how to fill and use them: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...k-what-primer-juice-delivery-attachments.html

My silver thing is a cartomizer! My tanks are CLEAROMIZERs...

 

[MrsKite]

Link to my kit

Joye 510 Starter Kit

 

[MrsKite]

For the benefit of Mrs. Kite,
there will be a show tonight on vape-o-line.
The wattages will all there,
Late of juice's burning glare, what a scene!........



Do you happen to know what ohms (resistance) the atomizer is? Sounds like it may not be a good match up.
How many drops did you put in it (of normal juice)?
Does it have a bridge in the center (a post type of thing?)

My attys that came in my kit have a bridge.. 3 drips.. more than that it gurgles a lot

 

[Baditude]

You have a couple of those old-fashioned combo tank-atomizers. I've never used them, so I'm no help with those.

The shorter black devices are drip atomizers. Only 3 - 4 drops of juice at a time with those. My link has a video on how to use those.



Learning the ritual of dripping is an art form and can have a slight learning curve. Keep at it and don't get discouraged. Oh, by the way, you need a drip tip or mouthpiece to put on the atomizer before vaping. It doesn't look like one comes in the kit, and the website has these to choose from:

http://www.vapininthecape.com/Aluminum-Drip-Tip-Round_p_174.html

http://www.vapininthecape.com/Stainless-Steel-Drip-Tip_p_173.html

http://www.vapininthecape.com/Drip-Tip-Plastic_p_175.html

 

[Janet H]

It's usually much better to talk to someone in person about your vaping gear, especially if you've got a store nearby. I'm not sure exactly what you're using, either in gear or juice.

VG is what produces more vapor and a lot of people vape of mix of PG and VG like 50/50 or 70/30 or 60/40 etc. (The first number is usually PG and the 2nd one is VG) It could be the juice you're dripping has a much lower % of VG so you're not getting as much vapor. Sometimes it will tell you on the bottle what the ratio is, or ask at the store what they normally mix.

Are you dripping into a cartomizer? A silver tube with a white disk at the top with a tiny hole in it? If it is, just stick something in that tiny hole, like the end of a paperclip, and pop that little white disk out. Drip into the tube and stick that little white disk back in - OR you could get a nice drip tip and put that in the tube instead of the white disk. I just went to the Vapin in the Cape website and they have some listed - https://www.vapininthecape.com/Joye-eGo-Accessories_c_35.html You'll see them in pretty colors or metal.

If you're getting a burned taste it's usually because your juice is not getting to the wick and coil. VG is very thick and can cause wicking difficulties. If you want to use just VG you could try to thin it out with a drop or 2 of distilled water.

I don't know how helpful this has been. There is a little bit of learning the reasoning behind what goes on with vapnig, but I know a lot of older folks who are vaping just fine and loving it so don't let it overwhelm you. In the beginning, if you're able, I'd make a few trips to the vaping store until you start feeling confident. Don't give up!

 

[AttyPops]

OK. I'm still a bit confused but the picture is getting clearer. You said you're using an eGO, but just to make sure, that link is to a 510 super-mini (not eGo) kit.

However, the thing you're dripping into sounds to be a standard atomizer, not cartomizer or clearo. (due to the bridge). The picture of the kit has atomizers in it...and it says there are two standard atomizers. So that would be about 2.3 ohms.

If you're dripping into a cartomizer (you can drip into some of them) they have to have VERY saturated filler. If there's no filler, it is indeed an atomizer. And by your description of more than 3 drops gurgling, that's an atomizer.

OK. Now, there's a couple of things that cause poor performance on an atomizers used for dripping. It's mostly a voltage vs wattage thing. The eGo unit is 3.4 volts. The super-mini cig-sized unit is probably about 3.2 volts.

Most would use about 2.0 ohm stuff on an eGo. 2.3 like you have can be used but doesn't produce tons of vapor. There's a couple of things we can do though, but now I have to ask about the juice:

Do you know what PG/VG ratio the juice is? (It may say on the label) Is it really 100% PG? Are the PG juice and VG juice the same nic level?

 

[BlueMoods]

Easiest way to drip with those (I used to have them) take off the tip (that's called a cartridge or cart.) remove the filler (foam) inside it. Drip 3 drops into the atomizer that should still be attached to the battery, put the cart , now empty, back on and vape. You are using the empty cart as a mouthpiece is all. If you are a bit mechanical, you can drill out the small hole in the cart so it's easy to drip through, then just leave it on for dripping.

 

[MrsKite]

I'm going to the shop tomorrow and definitely getting a drip tip..

I do think that the VG juice that I have (it's 100% VG) is very thick so it's probably is not getting to the coil.

I'm not going to give up on dripping cuz I really like vaping lots of flavors..

 

[MrsKite]

Easiest way to drip with those (I used to have them) take off the tip (that's called a cartridge or cart.) remove the filler (foam) inside it. Drip 3 drops into the atomizer that should still be attached to the battery, put the cart , now empty, back on and vape. You are using the empty cart as a mouthpiece is all. If you are a bit mechanical, you can drill out the small hole in the cart so it's easy to drip through, then just leave it on for dripping.

I've been using this method but not getting a lot of vape in comparison to my clearomitzers

 

[AttyPops]

I dripped for 2 years straight on standard atomizers. I'll help ya, but I need the above answers about your juice....

 

[MrsKite]

OK. I'm still a bit confused but the picture is getting clearer. You said you're using an eGO, but just to make sure, that link is to a 510 super-mini (not eGo) kit.

However, the thing you're dripping into sounds to be a standard atomizer, not cartomizer or clearo. (due to the bridge). The picture of the kit has atomizers in it...and it says there are two standard atomizers. So that would be about 2.3 ohms.

If you're dripping into a cartomizer (you can drip into some of them) they have to have VERY saturated filler. If there's no filler, it is indeed an atomizer. And by your description of more than 3 drops gurgling, that's an atomizer.

OK. Now, there's a couple of things that cause poor performance on an atomizers used for dripping. It's mostly a voltage vs wattage thing. The eGo unit is 3.4 volts. The super-mini cig-sized unit is probably about 3.2 volts.

Most would use about 2.0 ohm stuff on an eGo. 2.3 like you have can be used but doesn't produce tons of vapor. There's a couple of things we can do though, but now I have to ask about the juice:

Do you know what PG/VG ratio the juice is? (It may say on the label) Is it really 100% PG? Are the PG juice and VG juice the same nic level?

My juices that I really like are 80 pg - 20 vg

The one I'm having trouble with is 100 VG

 

[MrsKite]

BTW just dripped my 80/20 straight into my cartomizer (got it nice and wet) getting good vape and taste! Oh put the toothpick in the center hole when dripping and dripped with a lot more confidence! Yay!

 

[AttyPops]

Right. But you said you had some PG juice so I was hoping it was 100% PG, but doesn't really matter.

Do you have an empty bottle? Are the juices the same flavors as the VG juice? Same nic? (We're going to mix some into the VG juice maybe.....)

 

[MrsKite]

Right. But you said you had some PG juice so I was hoping it was 100% PG, but doesn't really matter.

Do you have an empty bottle? Are the juices the same flavors as the VG juice? Same nic? (We're going to mix some into the VG juice maybe.....)

They are different flavors same nic.

 

[AttyPops]

Rats.

OK, next option is to thin the VG with water or one of the high PG flavors that you think would taste OK with it. The water option will cut the nic concentration a bit, but we don't need much.

Do you have an empty bottle? If so, put about 10 ml of the 100% PG in the bottle. Add about 3 drops of water and shake well.

-or-

Put 10 ml of the 100% PG in the bottle, and add some PG juice until it looks thinner (will take several drops).

The idea is to get some VG into the atomizer that is thin enough to vape.

-or-

Drip 2 drops of PG juice and 1 drop of VG juice into the atty (hope flavors mix well )

Did the 80pg/20vg juice vape OK when dripping into the atty?

 

[MrsKite]

Rats.

OK, next option is to thin the VG with water or one of the high PG flavors that you think would taste OK with it. The water option will cut the nic concentration a bit, but we don't need much.

Do you have an empty bottle? If so, put about 10 ml of the 100% PG in the bottle. Add about 3 drops of water and shake well.

-or-

Put 10 ml of the 100% PG in the bottle, and add some PG juice until it looks thinner (will take several drops).

The idea is to get some VG into the atomizer that is thin enough to vape.

Did the 80pg/20vg juice vape OK when dripping into the atty?

The 80/20 vaped great when I took the fuzzy stuff out of the cart and dripped 3 drops straight into the atty!!

Going to the shop tomorrow.. can I get PG there to add to my 100% VG? And would that be a good way to settle the problem with that particular juice?