A GotVapes.com Worldwide Debut - The All New SMOKtech TELESCOPE™

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I've never tried a mechanical mod, and I don't care what I'm missing :). If it's not variable voltage, it's not for me.

That is what is cool about a Kick... it makes a 18xxx size tube mod into a variable wattage device as long as there is room for both the battery and the Kick... To use a Kick requires just over 17mm more length
 

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Could we maybe, pretty, pretty please get some pics of this with a stardust on it to drool over while I'm waiting for my order...you know, since I haven't heard back from you saying, sure erin drive on over and pick your stuff up;)
 

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That is what is cool about a Kick... it makes a 18xxx size tube mod into a variable wattage device as long as there is room for both the battery and the Kick... To use a Kick requires just over 17mm more length

I looked into the kick, and it totally does not fit my vaping style. I change juices too often and rarely vape different juices at the same wattage. Hell, half the time, I vary the wattage to my mood with one juice during the same session. I' be screwing and unscrewing all day, with a micro screwdiver glued to my hand.
 

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You should have that on Monday : ) You will really like it... I one time owned a GGTS Slim or sometign like that and it looked hot but when I got the unit it was so HEAVY it actually was bothersome to use...this dos not have that problem...

Oh baby, thats the magic vape pr0n for the day ;)
 

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You should have that on Monday : ) You will really like it... I one time owned a GGTS Slim or sometign like that and it looked hot but when I got the unit it was so HEAVY it actually was bothersome to use...this dos not have that problem...

Yeah, I probably will get that monday, MAYBE Tuesday. Beaumont may be the armpit of Texas, but shipping from houston is FAST. NASCAR fast. I reply can't rhapsodize enough about what the move has done for shipping.

I dont mind heavy though, I just like something that feels comfortable in my hand, and is sturdy since I'm so clumsy.
 

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Those will work VERY well. :) But, like Marc said, the 1600s will work just a little bit better. :(

Here is the chart to which Marc was referring. It shows that although the 2000mAh AW IMR holds it's usable charge (down to 2.8v) longer than the 1600mAh AW IMR, the 1600 holds a slightly higher voltage over time. And since in the non-regulated mechanical PV you would probably want to change out your batt when it drops down to about 3.6v or so (where you will feel a very noticeable decrease in vapor), you can see on this chart that the 1600 takes slightly longer than the 2000 to drop to that point.

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(In a well-regulated APV like the Vmax or the SMOKtech Gripper, where the voltage is maintained by the regulator, the higher capacity of the 2000 becomes an advantage.)

Ya can't judge a book by its cover, a turtle by its shell, or a battery by its (often false) mAh rating. ;)


Thank you to Super T Manufacturing.


Yep, that's the one! I just wasn't sure if I should post it since it's from Super-T Manufacturing...
 

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if you put some bubblegum down in the well maybe : ) its a well to recess and receive the base of an ego clearo etc, but there is actually no ego outside cone threading down there...

Hey dan, weird question, but will the pen clip cap fit in there? I am thinking that it will, since the stardust will, but I'm unsure. Those pen clip caps are superb for stealth pocketing in a lab coat.
 

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Erin--you know I think I may have misspoke I think you may have ordered after I had to close things out and take to ship at the PO...did you get a shipping notice?

Yeah, I probably will get that monday, MAYBE Tuesday. Beaumont may be the armpit of Texas, but shipping from houston is FAST. NASCAR fast. I reply can't rhapsodize enough about what the move has done for shipping.

I dont mind heavy though, I just like something that feels comfortable in my hand, and is sturdy since I'm so clumsy.
 

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if you put some bubblegum down in the well maybe : ) its a well to recess and receive the base of an ego clearo etc, but there is actually no ego outside cone threading down there...

Yeah, I see, so more like on the dongle, shaped to fit for ego style but not attach to.

Erin--you know I think I may have misspoke I think you may have ordered after I had to close things out and take to ship at the PO...did you get a shipping notice?

Haven't checked, but if not, then Tuesday/Wednesday, which is still pretty freaking fantabulous.
 

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That's what I'm hoping too, but if not, I have a bunch of 18500s as well:)

To add to what the Turtle says: To my knowledge, for that size battery the 18500's = protected while the 18490's = IMR.

A big reason (Besides Evolv's recommendations) to not use protected batteries with the kick is that some battery's current limiting protection is lower than the Kick's maximum output. So you'd actually be limiting the Kick's functionality.

For example, I tried a kick with Trustfire 18500 and it wouldn't work unless I cranked the Kick down to about 1/2 way. Needless to say it was a pretty crappy vape. Anything above that and the protection circuit of the batt would keep the mod from firing at all.

With an 18490 I can crank up the kick all the way for some sweet vapin.

Also the Kick will protect against over discharging your batteries. With pure mechanical mods it is possible to drain your battery so low that it will be ruined and no longer take a charge. Though you'd probably swap the battery out before getting that low, due to poor vape quality anyway.
 
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To add to what the Turtle says: To my knowledge, for that size battery the 18500's = protected while the 18490's = IMR.

A big reason (Besides Evolv's recommendations) to not use protected batteries with the kick is that some battery's current limiting protection is lower than the Kick's maximum output. So you'd actually be limiting the Kick's functionality.

For example, I tried a kick with Trustfire 18500 and it wouldn't work unless I cranked the Kick down to about 1/2 way. Needless to say it was a pretty crappy vape. Anything above that and the protection circuit of the batt would keep the mod from firing at all.

With an 18490 I can crank up the kick all the way for some sweet vapin.

Also the Kick will protect against over discharging your batteries. With pure mechanical mods it is possible to drain your battery so low that it will be ruined and no longer take a charge. Though you'd probably swap the battery out before getting that low, due to poor vape quality anyway.

Ahhh, lack of clarity on my part, I call all those size 18500, I do actually have 18490 red aw imrs :)
 

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That is what is cool about a Kick... it makes a 18xxx size tube mod into a variable wattage device as long as there is room for both the battery and the Kick... To use a Kick requires just over 17mm more length

I've been thinking about this, and the kick really doesn't make a variable wattage device. Technically, it functions as an adjustable constant wattage device. Variable voltage is synonymous with variable wattage (or variable resistance for that matter).
 

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I've been thinking about this, and the kick really doesn't make a variable wattage device. Technically, it functions as an adjustable constant wattage device. Variable voltage is synonymous with variable wattage (or variable resistance for that matter).

Hmmm, I would say that they are related but definitely NOT synonymous. They can't be. When I'm doing electrical work, if my dad sends me to check the voltage of something, its very different than if he sends me to check resistance. In vaping people might use them as functionally interchangeable, but there is no escaping the fact that they are NOT interchangeable.
 

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Hmmm, I would say that they are related but definitely NOT synonymous. They can't be. When I'm doing electrical work, if my dad sends me to check the voltage of something, its very different than if he sends me to check resistance. In vaping people might use them as functionally interchangeable, but there is no escaping the fact that they are NOT interchangeable.

In this application, with respect to wattage they are. If you vary the resistance while keeping voltage constant, wattage changes. If you vary the voltage over a constant resistance, wattage changes. Both cases are variable wattage. Wattage change is variable wattage.

I'm not saying that voltage is the same as resistance.
 

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In this application, with respect to wattage they are. If you vary the resistance while keeping voltage constant, wattage changes. If you vary the voltage over a constant resistance, wattage changes. Both cases are variable wattage. Wattage change is variable wattage.

I'm not saying that voltage is the same as resistance.

But precisely what you are adjusting is different. Variable wattage vs. variable voltage are different electrically...

And you can't keep resistance constant. There is variability across equipment even when they are rated the same, and resistance of a carto often changes as it is used. So as you go, with variable voltage the voltage will not change unless you change the setting, but wattage certainly can and will, and with variable wattage it is the opposite....
 
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