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[Ctor]

But precisely what you are adjusting is different. Variable wattage vs. variable voltage are different electrically...

And you can't keep resistance constant. There is variability across equipment even when they are rated the same, and resistance of a carto often changes as it is used. So as you go, with variable voltage the voltage will not change unless you change the setting, but wattage certainly can and will, and with variable wattage it is the opposite....

Let me put it this way, the kick varies the voltage automatically to keep a constant wattage. If resistance changes, the kick changes to voltage applied so that the wattage keeps constant.

The whole point of a kick is to provide the same wattage to different loads, so calling it variable wattage does not describe what it does.

 

[burns_erin]

Let me put it this way, the kick varies the voltage automatically to keep a constant wattage. If resistance changes, the kick changes to voltage applied so that the wattage keeps constant.

The whole point of a kick is to provide the same wattage to different loads, so calling it variable wattage does not describe what it does.

I guess we are simply approaching the subject from different perspectives linguistically. My point would be you can only control one thing. With the kick YOU are varying the watts. YOU pick the setting. I.e the VARIABLE you are allowed to control is the watts.

 

[badkolo]

in the next 2 months all china mods will have wattage in them

 

[VapingTurtle]

in the next 2 months all china mods will have wattage in them

in 3 months they will all have power windows and cruise control in them

 

[Briar]

Well, guys, all of this is really nice an'all, and this pretty thingie is calling my name - but I got a possibly very stupid question. I've never used a purely mechanical PV before. How do you know when the batt is running too low for safety?

 

[WallyO]

Well, guys, all of this is really nice an'all, and this pretty thingie is calling my name - but I got a possibly very stupid question. I've never used a purely mechanical PV before. How do you know when the batt is running too low for safety?

Glad you asked that Briar. I was thinking the same thing yesterday.

 

[burns_erin]

Well, guys, all of this is really nice an'all, and this pretty thingie is calling my name - but I got a possibly very stupid question. I've never used a purely mechanical PV before. How do you know when the batt is running too low for safety?

Too low for safety? vape pretty well is ineffectual well before that point. Since there is no boost, it just sort if tapers off and gets too cool and no vapor.

 

[badkolo]

just like burns said
youll know
the vapor drops off significantly, you dont feel the power you normally do as you vape, so youll tell that the battery is draining out and is in need of a charge

 

[Ctor]

Glad you asked that Briar. I was thinking the same thing yesterday.

You should use a multimeter. Lithium based batteries last longer when you don't drain them too far, and can be damaged by over draining. I'd probably be looking to charge them (and this is just me) when they hit around 3.4 volts. If you do drain them below 3 or so volts it can affect their ability to accept a full charge.

ETA: I believe protected batts will cut off automatically, the above applies to unprotected batteries.

 

[cerver7]

Too low for safety? Vape pretty well is ineffectual well before that point. Since there is no boost, it just sort if tapers off and gets too cool and no vapor.

Yarg. Once you take a vape and inhale/exhale and is away from the last 100 drags you took, take one more and if it was still weak, strange, bad or different....time to Batt swap.

 

[Briar]

Thanks, guys. Makes sense. I guess if I feel the vape dropping off significantly, I can check it in the provari... Still don't own a meter - will get one this month for sure.

I really want this thing, though. I looked around for a Kick, and it's not to be had anywhere. Oh, well. Wish GV would carry it.

 

[Adrena]

in the next 2 months all china mods will have wattage in them

Where is my sonic screwdriver! Hum

 

[burns_erin]

Thanks, guys. Makes sense. I guess if I feel the vape dropping off significantly, I can check it in the provari... Still don't own a meter - will get one this month for sure.

I really want this thing, though. I looked around for a Kick, and it's not to be had anywhere. Oh, well. Wish GV would carry it.

Yeas, they come available in spits and spurts. You just have to keep a weather eye out for one.

 

[Briar]

Yeas, they come available in spits and spurts. You just have to keep a weather eye out for one.

LOL One more thing to stalk...

 

[LordDavon]

My Telescope should be here this week, and I can't wait to start testing. I haven't tried my Kick yet, so this will be a good test.

 

[TravTech]

Let me put it this way, the kick varies the voltage automatically to keep a constant wattage. If resistance changes, the kick changes to voltage applied so that the wattage keeps constant.

The whole point of a kick is to provide the same wattage to different loads, so calling it variable wattage does not describe what it does.

I guess we are simply approaching the subject from different perspectives linguistically. My point would be you can only control one thing. With the kick YOU are varying the watts. YOU pick the setting. I.e the VARIABLE you are allowed to control is the watts.

LOL I had this same "go-round" with another member a couple months ago.

How about MVA vs ACW? Manual Voltage Adjustment vs Automatic Constant Wattage.

Darwins and Kicks will automatically vary the voltage to maintain whatever wattage you select.

Other mods you have to manually vary the voltage based on the resisitance to achieve your desired wattage (and hope the resisitance doesn't change on you).

In both cases it's the voltage being varied to achieve the desired wattage output from the atomizer. In that respect they can both be called variable voltage, or variable wattage. But one does it automatically which is where the "constant wattage" comes in.

So both are right I guess, it's not really an argument that can be won or lost. It's all in the approach and which variables you focus on.

 

[rdsok]

I'd have to side with Erin about the Kick being variable... but Ctor's previous statement that changing the wattage isn't very handy which makes it less effective on that note...

It is cool that other variable wattage devices are pending... I noticed that Evolv has developed a module that can used to build a mod with external controls on it... so that is another direction that is already available to modders.

Briar... Go to evolv's website and look at their authorized vendor list... then visit each one often... you'll catch one eventually. When a vendor gets stock in, it typically is only staying in stock for a few days... then the next vendor gets a batch and it repeats.

 

[TravTech]

LOL One more thing to stalk...

From another thread...

The Kick

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Shop Now « Evolv

Also: ElectronicStix.Com : THE KICK - THEKICK

Super T seems to be the only one who currently has them in stock.

 

[burns_erin]

LOL I had this same "go-round" with another member a couple months ago.

How about MVA vs ACW? Manual Voltage Adjustment vs Automatic Constant Wattage.

Darwins and Kicks will automatically vary the voltage to maintain whatever wattage you select.

Other mods you have to manually vary the voltage based on the resisitance to achieve your desired wattage (and hope the resisitance doesn't change on you).

In both cases it's the voltage being varied to achieve the desired wattage output from the atomizer. In that respect they can both be called variable voltage, or variable wattage. But one does it automatically which is where the "constant wattage" comes in.

So both are right I guess, it's not really an argument that can be won or lost. It's all in the approach and which variables you focus on.

But I LIKE to debate. I like those terms though and think thats what I shall use henceforth

I look forward to the coming bumper crop of MCW APV

 

[TravTech]

I'd have to side with Erin about the Kick being variable...

Even a straight up battery tube is "variable". All you have to do is change to a different resistance carto, presto you've varied your wattage.

It's all a matter of what you want to go through. In one case you can manually adjust the voltage, in another case the voltage is adjusted for you automatically, in the last case (most hassle) you're adjusting your resistance. All with the exact same end result, desired wattage output from the atomizer.