A Lesson In Nicotine - Not Mine - MFS Discount
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Mine was 100mg in plastic with black electrical tape so must be the same batch. Mine is clear (not cloudy) but has a brown tinge to it.
I've had nothing but great purchases from them and customer service has always been top notch. I'm not saying anything is wrong with the NIC I just want to know if the brown tinge is going to be a norm with this new NIC. So far I've herd others say what they got was clear so that gives me some cause for concern. I did email them and am waiting a reply.
That is what I've always thought but they say that they found a new supplier that uses a new nic extraction process so now that's got me wondering is the browning the result of the new process or did I get old stock.
OK, the bottling is done. The nic is totally clear and the smell is less, not odorless but acceptable. Must have been a combo of the plastic and the stinky tape. Don't know if it matters but the original bottle is stamped Dec. 3.
I'd have no problem buying this again. I've bought from MFS before with zero issues.
I'd have no problem buying this again. I've bought from MFS before with zero issues.
I just got an order from them earlier in the week. Mine was clear and pretty odorless. Although I will say I ordered 250ml of 100mg nic and used the test kit from WL. Tested out at about 87mg. Did the test several times. Seems pretty far off to me, but this is my first order of 100mg nic. Not sure how accurate the test kit is with nic that high, but I would hope it's better than +-10%. Anyone else ever tested their nic from MFS? 13mg may not seem like a lot, but when you consider I'm eventually mixing it down to 8mg, I'm missing out on like 375ml of nic base.
Wow off by 13mg's is quite a bit. That's not a good thing but it's still better being under then over. I remember reading in the stickies that a year or 2 ago NIC was being sold advertised as 100mg when actually it was 1000mg which was pure undiluted NIC. Now that is scary. Makes me want to get a testing kit and start testing again.
OK after reading that email all I can think is "No stems and seeds that you don't need!"
I have never purchased from them. Always purchased from RTSVapes.com or WizardLabs.us Just got 250 ml of 100mg nic from Wizard. That should last me like a year!
I have never purchased from them. Always purchased from RTSVapes.com or WizardLabs.us Just got 250 ml of 100mg nic from Wizard. That should last me like a year!
Actually that's "Stems and tobacco dust" and if the NIC is not synthetic then it's stems and dust regardless of which manufacture you get your nic from.
The jist of that email was that manufactures are finding stems and tobacco dust left over from the manufacturing of cigarettes is getting harder to get as the demand for vaping nicotine becomes more popular. Because of this manufactures are resorting to using the whole tobacco leaf to extract nicotine and that process is producing a lesser quality product.
MFS is claiming that there new supplier has come up with a new manufacturing process where they can use the whole tobacco leaf and come up with as high a quality product as those using the stem and dust process.
So if this is the case then it's a major break through for the vaping community and something that will have a major impact on liquid nicotine availibility.
The jist of that email was that manufactures are finding stems and tobacco dust left over from the manufacturing of cigarettes is getting harder to get as the demand for vaping nicotine becomes more popular. Because of this manufactures are resorting to using the whole tobacco leaf to extract nicotine and that process is producing a lesser quality product.
MFS is claiming that there new supplier has come up with a new manufacturing process where they can use the whole tobacco leaf and come up with as high a quality product as those using the stem and dust process.
So if this is the case then it's a major break through for the vaping community and something that will have a major impact on liquid nicotine availibility.
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I have some of this just got it in on Friday. When I ordered it was a Preorder, so we have to have the same batch. I vaped the 36 100% vg straight and it didn't taste bad or anything. Pretty neutral.
I was ordering to get the nic they had, and with my shipping email I got the newsletter that said I was getting a new nic.. Not what I wanted since we have no reviews on this nic.
I was ordering to get the nic they had, and with my shipping email I got the newsletter that said I was getting a new nic.. Not what I wanted since we have no reviews on this nic.
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Little birdy told me this is laughable as there is not enough nic in stems or dust to do squat with. There is also no shortage of quality nicotine (other then those created for marketing) but rather a shortage of how fast it can be bottled up and pushed out the door. No doubt vendors are always looking for new suppliers who can provide equal or better quality at a lesser price. However the only place that can supply enough consistent quality to meet the demand unfortunately is China.
There are retail vape stores buying nicotine by the truck load. So in between hundreds of tiny DIY orders most places fulfill wholesale orders of many gallons to make actual money. So when robots begin mixing up our nic and safety of humans is no longer an issue the supply should become limitless.
Could this be their source?
CASAA: U.S. extracted nicotine will soon be available
CASAA: U.S. extracted nicotine will soon be available
A lot of what you say makes sense. It's the first order of business to buy the best quality at the lowest price to make the biggest profit. It is also known that stems and dust (A left over by product of the cigarette making industry) is a common source for liquid nicotine. But I'm not quite sure where you come up with " there is not enough nic in stems or dust to do squat with". According to your statement then the nic that I've bought in the past was bogus and any testing I've done on it the results were bogus. I can buy into there is not enough supply to go around as we've all seen that with wizard labs. But your information about the manufacturing process I'm not quite convinced of and would love to know where you get your information from.
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I've seen this and it is a very good bet that they could be sourcing from there. They did say it's a US manufacture.
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I got a response back from MFS as follows
Danny,
A yellowish/light brown tint is normal for the unflavored nic juice. The longer it has to get oxygen to it the darker it will turn. The darker color will not affect the strength or taste so you don't have to worry about that. Let us know if you have any other questions, thanks
So the brown tinge I see in my NIC is normal and not a concern. I've also asked them to confirm if there new USA manufacture is the one mentioned in the article found here and am awaiting a responce:
CASAA: U.S. extracted nicotine will soon be available
I've also linked them to this thread so if they choose we may be able to ask questions directly from here.
Danny,
A yellowish/light brown tint is normal for the unflavored nic juice. The longer it has to get oxygen to it the darker it will turn. The darker color will not affect the strength or taste so you don't have to worry about that. Let us know if you have any other questions, thanks
So the brown tinge I see in my NIC is normal and not a concern. I've also asked them to confirm if there new USA manufacture is the one mentioned in the article found here and am awaiting a responce:
CASAA: U.S. extracted nicotine will soon be available
I've also linked them to this thread so if they choose we may be able to ask questions directly from here.
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