A New Wave of Affordable Authentics?

[Brandon David]

It's a good atty since I put new glass on it but I've just come to realize I'm more of a single coil guy. I ran it and the goblin for about a week through numerous builds. They both work fantastic but I just prefer my lemo drop. Idk why. Haha


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[kkay59]

I never heard of it before. It looks like a Vulcan. Does it have better taste than one? Just out of curiosity, how much is an El Cabron?

I am totally loving this El Cabron. It is really good, fantastic even. And it is an affordable authentic.

 

[DaveSignal]

Just out of curiosity, how much is an El Cabron?

It sells for $60 at rbavapor.com. But this is an authentic device, designed in the USA, that comes with a ....-ton of extra stuff. Its got a standard 510 top cap, a wide-bore top cap with wide-bore delrin tip, and an even bigger stainless steel wide-bore drip top cap. Then it comes with extra posts, copper posts, additional insulators, screws, everything.
The post holes are massive, like dark-horse size. You could fit anything in there... I'm currently running it with dual 24g parallel coils, so 4 wires though the center post... it was a breeze. The threads are all great too and its super smooth to screw on the different top caps. I use the bigger wide-bore cap, so I don't bother taking it off to re-drip... I can see both coils just looking down through the top cap... I can drip right on them without removing anything. I built it at a low resistance, but it works so well and is so perfect for my use. It has become my new favorite atomizer.

 

[kkay59]

It sure looks close to a Vulcan to me, and you'd need an allen wrench. The price is about the same. (maybe even more than the Vulcan) Glad you like it. I need affordable flavor rebuildables. I'm making a wish list.

 

[Vapenstein]

Wotofo has my undivided attention. First the great performing but leaky Freak Show, then the amazing Troll, which is my current favorite atty by a MILE. Can not fault it in any regard.

 

[trouble1000]

I like the fact that some of the budget builders are actually listening to the concerns of us vapers and acting on them. A good example being the Goblin. People had issues with the screws not working for smaller gauge wire and the tank capacity being so small. So they did something about it. Same with the Subtank and quite a few other lower priced attys.

I've got a few Lemos - great for during the day on an iStick. The Goblin has pride of place on an IPV2, I'm running it at the moment with a single coil set-up (similar to the blocked off juice channel build on the Orchid) and I honestly can't fault it for flavour and vapour production. On the way, I've got a Subtank coming too, some great reviews, it will be a new toy to play with.

Still not found my "holy grail" vaping set-up yet. But I'm having some great fun along the way

 

[DaveSignal]

It sure looks close to a Vulcan to me, and you'd need an allen wrench.

Its not really close to the Vulcan aside from the fact that they both have cooling fins on the top and bottom. They have different posts, different deck, different airflow.
But just about any atomizer looks like any other atomizer if you are vague enough.

 

[TorontoOntario]

I much, much, much prefer the Lemo to the Goblin or Silverplay. I drip when I am home, always HOWEVER I dont like it for on the go (working, errands, out for dinner etc) so the Lemo is what I use. I like it around .4 ohms and around 40w on my Flask. I love the Lemo so much. I do really enjoy the Infinite CLT as an "affordable RDA" but other then that one not much has made me say "wow." Tugboat v2 is still hands down my fav atty followed by the Plumeveil then the Magma. I really like the flavour I get off those three attys and the clouds are fine. The CLT has been impressing me. I bought it four hours ago and built a .2 dual coil setup. I been vapeing it on my new mech for the last 3.5 hours and its really good for flavour IMO. It chucks some decent clouds as well. Still havent found something that would replace my Tugboat v2s though.

 

[Gummy Bare]

Wotofo has my undivided attention. First the great performing but leaky Freak Show, then the amazing Troll, which is my current favorite atty by a MILE. Can not fault it in any regard.

Man, as soon as I saw that freak show I was like hell yeah! Then I saw like, "wait a second, that looks like it could leak like crazy". I held off on it ever since. How bad is the leaking on it? Like so bad you can't even deal with it and heaven forbid you ever put it into your pocket kinda leaky?

 

[Croak]

Man, as soon as I saw that freak show I was like hell yeah! Then I saw like, "wait a second, that looks like it could leak like crazy". I held off on it ever since. How bad is the leaking on it? Like so bad you can't even deal with it and heaven forbid you ever put it into your pocket kinda leaky?

There's a method of dripping that prevents the leaking, watch Grimm Green's review of it. Basically, you can't just blind drip, you pop the top and precision drip.

 

[jj6404]

Everyone who says the freakshow leaks is just not doing it right. If you place your wicks correctly and drip correctly, the juice sits exactly where is supposed to and wicks like it's supposed to with no leaking. I drop 12-15 drops in mine at a time with no problem and love the flavor. Half closed for amazing flavor and clouds. Full open for super airy clouds. It's amazing for the price. Got mine for under $30 with coupon. Idk why grimmgreen is so late on reviewing it though lol.

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[DaveSignal]

There's a method of dripping that prevents the leaking, watch Grimm Green's review of it. Basically, you can't just blind drip, you pop the top and precision drip.

I didn't like the Grimm Green review. Thats not how I drip and my freakshow doesn't leak. I drip it right down the center of the wotofo wide-bore cap that I have on it.

 

[jj6404]

No comments on the carbon fiber match-up??? Lol. Anyway I don't drip that way either. I don't have a wide bore cap but I remove the top cap and just drip right on the cotton pieces or right in the well. Easy.


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[DaveSignal]

No comments on the carbon fiber match-up??? Lol. Anyway I don't drip that way either. I don't have a wide bore cap but I remove the top cap and just drip right on the cotton pieces or right in the well. Easy.

Your carbon fiber freakshow looks great on that paragon. I got a black freakshow (dual coil only) before A-Mod came out with that version. I like that its dual coil only as that is really all that I build, but I probably would have gotten the CF if it was around at the time, just because it is unique.

 

[time2quit]

I've found the Orchid V4 & V5 to be very servicable with a few minor modifications. They are meant for dual coil use, but to me it was too much trouble with not enough return in flavor, just clouds. The small cost kept my interest, easy to find for under $20, or less if the vendor has a sale running.

What I did was plug one of the air-holes and two of the juice feed channels, coiled it with 30 ga kanthral to 2.0Ω and wicked with rayon. Very simple to build and wick, and it hasn't been gunking or burning the wick even using NET juice.

The bottom fill hole does have an issue with being too close to the chimney to easily refill. I replaced the stock tank with a Kayfun M4 tank, and my syringe slips in no problem, fills in under a minute with no drips or leaks. They work well enough that I now have three of them, and one in vapemail.

What do you use to plug the air hole and channels?

 

[Oxytyramine]

Everyone who says the freakshow leaks is just not doing it right. If you place your wicks correctly and drip correctly, the juice sits exactly where is supposed to and wicks like it's supposed to with no leaking. I drop 12-15 drops in mine at a time with no problem and love the flavor. Half closed for amazing flavor and clouds. Full open for super airy clouds. It's amazing for the price. Got mine for under $30 with coupon. Idk why grimmgreen is so late on reviewing it though lol.

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Agreed. My Freakshow is almost leak free when you ignore user error. Since I run single coil only I stuff a little cotton in the unused airhole with each rewick to catch any errant juice. It's usually almost dry.

 

[jj6404]

Agreed. My Freakshow is almost leak free when you ignore user error. Since I run single coil only I stuff a little cotton in the unused airhole with each rewick to catch any errant juice. It's usually almost dry.

Could you please post some pics to show how you wick yours in single coil mode? I just started using it in single coil mode but haven't seemed to get the wicking right.


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[Stosh]

What do you use to plug the air hole and channels?

For my Orchids I used a piece of toothpick to block one of the air holes on the inside of chimney. Originally I also used smaller pieces of toothpick to block the channels but it was a pain when trying to thread on the chimney. Broke out some 5-minute food grade silicone epoxy, it hardens without sticking to metal, it's NOT and epoxy glue. I put a small amount into the channels I wanted to block, screwed on the chimney, let it harden, remove the chimney and trim any excess with a knife. The silicon sticks well enough in the channel to easily screw on the chimney, and stays put when re-wicking, but can be easily removed with your finger if desired.

 

[DaveSignal]

Speaking of affordable authentics, I don't think anyone has mentioned the CLT yet in this thread. The v3 is out now and I just ordered one.

 

[Gummy Bare]

The new project subohm short freakshow looks almost to good to pass up. Think I might grab that one... I also like the way the Kenedy looks. Seems like it is slightly similar to the freakshow when it comes to air flow. The new Kenedy centered looks like win win. It's not a cheap authentic though, it's gonna set you back some major cash. So I'll grab the project subohm freakshow for now.

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