a question about flooding on 306 attys

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Hey, Today is the first day I had everything complete. I have a clear drip tip. I noticed that when i inhale the juice goes above the atty, like a bubble of juice on the atty. If I let it sit for a moment it goes back down. Sometimes i get that burnt atty taste. I think its' because the juice "passes across" the coil. Just gets it slightly wet and i try to inhale a few times in a row without a pause and the juice just sits at the top.

Is there any tips on this? I emailed Robert, it told me reomod works great with a carto, I had some ones from a longggggg time ago sitting around, so i am trying that out now, seems pretty good. That brings up a new question, I low low resistance, if I do choose to stick to this carto method, which ones are recommended?
 

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First of all on your 306, I always have the juice up slightly above the atty into the tip. Those attys like to stay wet! Yes, if you inhale a few times in a row it might give you a burnt taste. More likely it is that the coil needs more juice! They use more juice. Not that it just sits at the top, but that it needs more at the bottom! Sqonk a little more and see if that helps.

I use the Resurrectors from CCV. They are 1.7 ohm. Very nice vapor and flavor. A lot easier than the 306 atty.
 

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okay thanks, what is "CCV" ?? I want to say Clouds of vapor, but that's not it. ha. I had a few egos and they eventually broke i switched to snus, I wanted to buy a ecig, wanted the ego it was always out of stock, when I had some money I went to check and now i got the reogrand. Just been out of the vaping community for like 5 months, so can you please refresh me what CCV is?
 

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You should, they give a very good vape for a cartomizer. Gives plenty of TH and warmth along with some good flavor.

To the OP, 306's are finicky and do take a bit of time before you master it. Once you do though, you'll never want to go back to anything else. But, start out with cartos and keep messing with your 306 from time to time until it works for you.
 

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You should, they give a very good vape for a cartomizer. Gives plenty of TH and warmth along with some good flavor.

To the OP, 306's are finicky and do take a bit of time before you master it. Once you do though, you'll never want to go back to anything else. But, start out with cartos and keep messing with your 306 from time to time until it works for you.

i love the 306 atty
 

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II mostly used the 306 on my ego, this is my first self feeding mod. I had some cartos laying around, i bought them a while ago. I don't know if they're LR or not. I started to get all the juice in my mouth and
I don't think cartos are for me in this sense, I am going to buy a package of the dual coil low resistance. Just to try them out. I have a 18650 2900 mAH battery, so I think battery life will be fine. The cartos right now i am using, it's like no throat hit or anything... Just like breathing in warm air with no flavor or anything. If I don't like the LR cartos. I'll just stick with the 306, I am getting the hang of it now.
 

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II mostly used the 306 on my ego, this is my first self feeding mod. I had some cartos laying around, i bought them a while ago. I don't know if they're LR or not. I started to get all the juice in my mouth and
I don't think cartos are for me in this sense, I am going to buy a package of the dual coil low resistance. Just to try them out. I have a 18650 2900 mAH battery, so I think battery life will be fine. The cartos right now i am using, it's like no throat hit or anything... Just like breathing in warm air with no flavor or anything. If I don't like the LR cartos. I'll just stick with the 306, I am getting the hang of it now.

Are you using a drip tip on those cartos? You really do not have to fill them with juice. With the bottom feeding it is not necessary to have all the filler wet.
You are not using the right battery if it is not a AW IMR 18650. Those batteries are just made for the LR attys and cartos. Other batteries will not give you good results.
 

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II mostly used the 306 on my ego, this is my first self feeding mod. I had some cartos laying around, i bought them a while ago. I don't know if they're LR or not. I started to get all the juice in my mouth and
I don't think cartos are for me in this sense, I am going to buy a package of the dual coil low resistance. Just to try them out. I have a 18650 2900 mAH battery, so I think battery life will be fine. The cartos right now i am using, it's like no throat hit or anything... Just like breathing in warm air with no flavor or anything. If I don't like the LR cartos. I'll just stick with the 306, I am getting the hang of it now.

After many experiments with differents attys, cartos and so on, I found the LR306 the best vaping experience with my Reos (grand woodvil and mini wv), the only thingh not perfect is that my attys last 10/12 days at perfect performaces, after I have to change them, sometime tried to clean but just one/two days of new life. The more lasting until now I found on nhaler.com... waiting to try the Ikenvape modified.
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Are you using a drip tip on those cartos? You really do not have to fill them with juice. With the bottom feeding it is not necessary to have all the filler wet.
You are not using the right battery if it is not a AW IMR 18650. Those batteries are just made for the LR attys and cartos. Other batteries will not give you good results.

No I wasn't using a drip tip, I am using a AW IMR 18650. I didn't realize there was a page 2. I think i figured it out. This is an update incase anyone was in my shoes. This is what i am doing, I do a quick inhale with out pushing the button. To get the juice from the resivor to go up through the atty across the coil. Then I push the button and vape. I am expiermenting with a little quick blow in to the drip tip(306 atty(not carto)) to get juice back across the coil and finish my inhale causing the juice to go back across the coil, this has been working pretty well.
 

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After many experiments with differents attys, cartos and so on, I found the LR306 the best vaping experience with my Reos (grand woodvil and mini wv), the only thingh not perfect is that my attys last 10/12 days at perfect performaces, after I have to change them, sometime tried to clean but just one/two days of new life. The more lasting until now I found on nhaler.com... waiting to try the Ikenvape modified.
Cheers

Okay I'll keep that in mind, thanks.
 

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Please give an update on how everything's doing for you. You don't need to squeeze before each hit since that can lead to you flooding your atomizer. Which will produce decreased performance and also, shortening the life of your atomizer as well.

With a 306, generally you squonk every 4-5 hits. Also, you don't need to blow into the drip tip/atomizer for it to go across the coil. A dry hit (or taking a pull without pushing the button) is sufficient enough. But, if that works for you then it's the best method.

Also, have you ever tried a blind squonk? Which is just lightly pressing the bottle while doing a dry hit. Once you hear a gurgle then you stop. Then start vaping. This is different from a regular squonk in that you don't have to watch for juice in the reservoir.
 

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You were probably getting juice in your mouth since you overfilled it.

Which brand were the cartos you were using? There's a possibility that you got some duds or that the brand you got are not known to be any good.

What juice are you using in them? What's the PG/VG ratio or 100% of either one. This can have an effect on your cartomizer as well. If you flooded it and have a thick juice in them. This can also cause POOR flavor production with no TH or anything.

I know that the dual coil cartos don't work that well at 3.7V unless it's the short ones that madvape sells. Also, the draw on those is a bit tighter then boge's for instance. There are a lot of people that swear by them but IMO it's all hype.



II mostly used the 306 on my ego, this is my first self feeding mod. I had some cartos laying around, i bought them a while ago. I don't know if they're LR or not. I started to get all the juice in my mouth and
I don't think cartos are for me in this sense, I am going to buy a package of the dual coil low resistance. Just to try them out. I have a 18650 2900 mAH battery, so I think battery life will be fine. The cartos right now i am using, it's like no throat hit or anything... Just like breathing in warm air with no flavor or anything. If I don't like the LR cartos. I'll just stick with the 306, I am getting the hang of it now.
 

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Please give an update on how everything's doing for you. You don't need to squeeze before each hit since that can lead to you flooding your atomizer. Which will produce decreased performance and also, shortening the life of your atomizer as well.

With a 306, generally you squonk every 4-5 hits. Also, you don't need to blow into the drip tip/atomizer for it to go across the coil. A dry hit (or taking a pull without pushing the button) is sufficient enough. But, if that works for you then it's the best method.

Also, have you ever tried a blind squonk? Which is just lightly pressing the bottle while doing a dry hit. Once you hear a gurgle then you stop. Then start vaping. This is different from a regular squonk in that you don't have to watch for juice in the reservoir.

Yeah I am starting to get the hang of it. Been doing something similiar to the "blind squonk" when i hear that gurgle sound I know it's okay to take a hit. It's just something you have to get used to, and get the hang of it. I am getting it. I'd perfer the 306 to a carto, I never really liked cartos, I did order some from COV, the dual coil. I don't know which brand i am using it has been a while since i got them. They come in a white package, with a big black line across it.

I am using a 50/50 mix.
 

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That's good to hear. Took me a little bit before I started getting a hang of it too. In one month I killed about 5 Cisco 306's and thought that it wasn't for me. But, once I started doing a blind squonk and getting used to that. It really became real easy to use a REO. Which is why I always suggest a blind squonk to people that have just got their REO.

I found the regular squonking technique to be amazingly annoying since I never got that perfected. Plus, can't do that while I drive. Anyways, I had a similar impression of cartos until I got some real good tips in the burning carto thread. From the description you gave. You got some boge's and so, I have heard of some that have gotten duds from them. One person I know completely gave up the idea of going back to boge's for that reason.

I suggested that he get some resurrectors and he's been happy ever since. But, I do like boge's in that they do have good performance if you get a good set of them. Usually, I fill them with 25 drops in 5 drop intervals and letting sit for a few minutes until I put some more in. Then letting it sit for at least 20 minutes before vaping.

Lastly, a 50/50 mix is borderline for cartos. Which do better with 80/20 or 70/30 but, I've found that AVE juices do well in them. But, it does kill a carto real quick in that it only lasts me for a day or two before I have to toss it. Color of the juice also effects cartos in that they gunk up the coil and filler material quickly. With atomizers, you can either clean them after a day to prevent that or dry burning to get all the built up gunk off the coil. It is possible to do the same with cartomizers but, only the horizontal type since you can use some tweezers and get the tube/filler out of there to dry burn the coil.
 
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