A slim ecig with the power of a Mod

[khalidmna]

Hi all

I've been using an MVP and istick since I began vaping as I found the cig-a-like kits ineffective. However, today at my local shop I saw one of these slim ecig kits called the neo at the checkout. Now I know it's just the same as other cigalike kits and won't give a satisfying vape like the MVP and istick, but it looked so sleek and simple. I'm not talking about the white cigalikes with the orange glow on the end. I think they look tacky. A mod that's slim enough to place between your fingers and you don't need a button to press and is refillable and has the power of a mod - why has no one thought of combining these looks with the power of a mod? I don't mean slim mods either but something like this:

 

[Cullin Kin]

I think it's probably because the battery required for those is so small it would die in about 23 seconds if you had a more powerful chip in there.

We really need some innovations on batteries...

 

[Papillon61]

We really need some innovations on batteries...

That's what I keep saying. E-cig companies should concentrate less on creating mods that do just about everything but wash the dishes and more on battery technology and safety.

 

[Bunnykiller]

Id like to find a model airplane engine that can replace the engine in an F-15 too
when it comes to vaping, size matters

 

[Racehorse]

A mod that's slim enough to place between your fingers and you don't need a button to press and is refillable and has the power of a mod -

current battery technology doesn't provide tiny batteries with power and long life.

I use a pen style called joyetech Ecab, it is a true "cigarillo" size, and takes replaceable 10440 batts......but those last about 2 hours each. Those are the smallest lithium that you can buy that I know of, or close to it.

 

[Mad Scientist]

To get to where we need to go (at least initially) all we need is a small battery with an outrageous discharge rate. Even if it's discharged after a dozen or so puffs, we could carry a few of them and constantly charge off a larger battery. Of course we'd also need to carry a bottle of juice. The enroll concept but on steroids. A 25 Watt cigalike -- I want one lol.

I think it may happen soon enough.

 

[Thrasher]

"That's what I keep saying. E-cig companies should concentrate less on creating mods that do just about everything but wash the dishes and more on battery technology and safety."






Panasonic, the world leader in battery technology, released some specs last year while discussing the new tesla megafactory.

The minimum needed to open a battery plant is 100 million dollars, and thats just the machinery, add in all those 6 figure saleries for the gurus who actually design and test the chemistry and your looking at a company draining budget. Just to be able to make a normal cell.

I dont forsee many ecig companies willingly burning this type of cash just for vaping batteries.

 

[VNeil]

Nuclear power - the future of cigalikes

Lithium will never cut it. You need plutonium

 

[bluecat]

That's what I keep saying. E-cig companies should concentrate less on creating mods that do just about everything but wash the dishes and more on battery technology and safety.

It would be wonderful. I was reading about 18650 batteries the other night and read something like the Tesla automobile had 7,000 18650s in it. I was kinda shocked because in a failure that would be nasty. I was going to confirm it but wife/kids needed help. My guess is once the automaker get their electric cars down that tech could be used.

To have the power/duration of an 18650 in a cigalike would be incredible.

 

[bluecat]

Sorry duplicate.

 

[retired1]

Battery technology hasn't really changed over the years. Sure, they find different chemicals to accomplish the reactions needed to provide electricity, but generally, we're still using an improved version of the very first batteries (circa 1800) which used copper, zinc and brine.

 

[tj99959]

I just use a few lemons

 

[jseah]

That's what I keep saying. E-cig companies should concentrate less on creating mods that do just about everything but wash the dishes and more on battery technology and safety.

E-cig companies aren't in the business of developing and manufacturing batteries. They're basically buying batteries from established manufacturing sources.

 

[Papillon61]

E-cig companies aren't in the business of developing and manufacturing batteries. They're basically buying batteries from established manufacturing sources.

Perhaps - but they might also be out of business if something like the EU TPD comes into force everywhere and you could only use leak-proof cigalikes, or enough people blow themselves up from unsafe batteries. It should be their business to invest in new and safer technology or insist with their suppliers to do so.

 

[DavidOck]

I just use a few lemons

You'll have to go with a series parallel setup with that, to get the necessary voltage and current

But at least when you exceed the instantaneous current discharge rate, you'll have lemonade!

 

[serene.in.dallas]

Ecig manufacturers will never enter the battery development arena. Its just too incredibly expensive, what is it yall dont understand about that? Its simply not feasible. Did yall not read what thrasher posted?

 

[Papillon61]

Of course we read and of course it is an expensive business - that is why I mentioned the suppliers. 10 months from now in Europe only cigalikes will be legal. Now if ecig manufacturers want to lose that market than all they have to do is sit on their hands. Simple.

 

[serene.in.dallas]

Of course we read and of course it is an expensive business - that is why I mentioned the suppliers. 10 months from now in Europe only cigalikes will be legal. Now if ecig manufacturers want to lose that market than all they have to do is sit on their hands. Simple.

Not sure what youve been reading but your a bit off. The eu tpd is just a directive, each member is free to set their own laws. Cigalikes wouldnt be the only legal option, solely devices that are "leak free" and have leakproof filling, which is odd and hard to specifically define. Either way, cigalikes wouldnt be the only option, cartomizers would be as well and you can use most any of those on your standard 510 mod, so why do they need to invest in battery technology?

And yes, if things were implemented as you seem to think, manufacturers would sit on their hands. Why spend hundreds of millions of dollars on r&d when they will never recoup that investment? I think you are trying to bring in something completely unrelated to the op. If you wish to discuss the eu tpd then there are other places for it.

 

[Steelgirl]

Nuclear power - the future of cigalikes

Lithium will never cut it. You need plutonium

So that's what Iran is really up to, eh ?

 

[serene.in.dallas]

So that's what Iran is really up to, eh ?

And what happens if they vent?