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I don't quite understand this post. Are you saying that I am misinforming others with my post? This is fact as far as I know, and unless anyone else can prove it as fiction, it will remain as fact in my head. Others can gather what they want from it. I think other people on this thread are smart enough to get the gist of what I was trying to say there.
it's a safety issue, all batteries have to have a cutoff lest they stick on or the button gets mashed in the pocket or purse. Workaround for that cutoff is to let go and mash again as fast as you can...when i do it the sizzle doesnt even diminish...you can take an endless drag (till the battery runs or or the cartomizer incinerates) simply by letting go just enough that you get the "click" then remashing instantly...its an almost imperceptible movement.
I'd rather have a cutoff than one of those batterys detonate cause the cutoff was defeated...it's not dead weight, it's there for a reason. The chinese dont put one extra part in anything, and few others do either..since that'd be a waste of money.
Well maybe i wasn't clear with the red parts that I added in the quoted message of yours and I think I could have added more towards the end as well.... Anyway
But you are right people are smart enough....
Just one more than and I will say good day to this RyGuy
Just because it is fact in your head doesn't make it fact... and I know unless someone else proves it otherwise it will remain fact.... but that is the problem...Facts are Facts when it lies in your head its an opinion or guess.. and the issue would be when Facts in the head is put into print for all eyes to see.
an Overly exaggerated example to make a point:
LightGeoDuck
rinking Bleach kills germs in the bodysomeone drinks bleach and dies
Poster:Hey Light you are wrong drinking bleach kills when consumed
LightGeoDuck: Oops thanks for the info
if wasn't wasn't written in a manner of inquiring, but in a means of defense.
Sorry I am not very articulate so my point might be a little foggy.... anyway
Good day
Customize your own ecig (and whatever elses you want...would take you less time than what it took to read this thread!!!)
There are plenty of printable vinyls, films and other things that can be used...also works great for customizing carts when you start refilling or making your own flavors!
If you do customize, just make sure people know where to go to get theirs...V4L!
There are plenty of printable vinyls, films and other things that can be used...also works great for customizing carts when you start refilling or making your own flavors!
If you do customize, just make sure people know where to go to get theirs...V4L!
I did some research and sure enough - I did find some manual KR808s but they were called DV9s or something so had no idea they were the same as KR808s (did a google to research lol) The prices were not that much lower if you actually look at what you are getting. None of them had the extra long (beast) manual battery. Also, the cartos while cheaper came in blisters packs, so not the same as Steves. (A few people here have tried the ones in blisters packs and were not impressed by taste or how long they lasted).
Can you save money by buying there? Possibly, but when you factor in things like Steves amazing guarantee, and the quality of the cartos, maybe not. That doesn't even take into account the extra juice and cartos he tosses in with each order. Or the other goodies he has been known to pass along to people. One week he was even tossing in the extra long manual batteries to people who ordered! That is just insane! Who else does that?
Here's a fact for you - Steves customer service is second to none and he stands behind his product 100%. If something goes wrong, he will send you out a new one taking you at your word that it was bad. He treats you like he would like to be treated. And as evidenced by getting in the extra long manual battery long before anyone else, he obviously stays on top on improving the experience for everyone! And he throws out extras for everyone - I have had some friends order and they were blown away by his generosity, and no, they didn't even mention me or the Ecig board.
So buy from V4L or don't, it is a free country. Considering the extras Steve throws in for people (and not just people who post here) I would say we come out way ahead.
Fact - People here are passionate for V4L and Steve - and there is a very good reason for it. He cares.
Whatever you choose, happy vaping!
Can you save money by buying there? Possibly, but when you factor in things like Steves amazing guarantee, and the quality of the cartos, maybe not. That doesn't even take into account the extra juice and cartos he tosses in with each order. Or the other goodies he has been known to pass along to people. One week he was even tossing in the extra long manual batteries to people who ordered! That is just insane! Who else does that?
Here's a fact for you - Steves customer service is second to none and he stands behind his product 100%. If something goes wrong, he will send you out a new one taking you at your word that it was bad. He treats you like he would like to be treated. And as evidenced by getting in the extra long manual battery long before anyone else, he obviously stays on top on improving the experience for everyone! And he throws out extras for everyone - I have had some friends order and they were blown away by his generosity, and no, they didn't even mention me or the Ecig board.
So buy from V4L or don't, it is a free country. Considering the extras Steve throws in for people (and not just people who post here) I would say we come out way ahead.
Fact - People here are passionate for V4L and Steve - and there is a very good reason for it. He cares.
Whatever you choose, happy vaping!
All of your help is appreciated. I am sure that Steve is great and has great customer service. (Not to mention he comes from the greatest city in the world.) I saw him on the news as well and I love his passion about the business. But, I could name 4 or 5 suppliers that I have dealt with that have great customer service, throw in extras, honor warranties by customers word, and so on. You people are talking about him like he pays your rent. I am starting to think I need to order something to see what all this hype is about.
I was immediately impressed by the fact that I talked to Steve himself and he answered all my questions despite the fact that he had orders upon orders to stuff. Then when I received my package (in 3 less than 3 days mind you! Form Chi-town to Prescott AZ) it was stuffed with extras and goodies galore. His customer service is second to none, and his product is exactly as he describes...whatever anyone else says is their opinion.
Steve's main product is the smile he gives to you, which has never failed to deliver to me!
Thank you Steve! you rok!Yes, the repetitive logo bothered me as well. It just doesn't suit my personal taste, it's too busy, too cartoony for me. To each their own. So I asked Mark if they had any batteries with no logo on them. He replied that he thought they might have a few old batteries that were silver with no logo. They did have some left and I ordered them. (Sorry not sure if they have any left or not???) I love the look of these silver batt's with a gold RY4 carto - it's cyberific
To the point about improvements: I've not been here long. I'm on day 17 of the big quit and haven't had an analog since this ride started. So I have no history of what was and how things have changed over time with the VK or other PV's and cartridges and batteries and on and on. I can, however, offer that Mark referred to these silver batt's as old and didn't work as well as the new ones. I can attest to the fact that the newer logo laiden batteries last longer and produce more vapor. I can't quantify that with hard numbers, I can't say it produced 7 cubic centimeters more vapor per puff or that the batteries lasted 23 minutes and 18 seconds longer per charge. Only that they are different and the newer ones perform better. Numbers I can provide is that they do have different dimensions. The old silver batts have a length of 2 7/8" while the new logo laiden batts have a length of 3 3/32". The diameter is the same on both. It makes sense, longer battery, more power, lasts longer.
Now I came across that difference because, like many in this thread, I don't care for the repetitive logo look. The company I work for does a lot of custom work. One of the tools we have at our disposal is a Stahls machine. It looks like a big old D sized engineering plotter - a great big printer. But instead of an ink head it has a blade and cuts vinyl. This is the same type of machine that cuts graphics for your car and stuff like that. Yesterday I had them cut me some rectangles in matte white vinyl that are 3 3/32" x 1 1/4". These wrap right around the battery and instantly transforms it from cartoony to reserved.
They make a ton of colors of vinyl in diferent finishes and textures. We have another machine that can print on this vinyl in full color so you could really go nuts with that if you were so inclined.
AZVagabond beat me to the post, heheh. But I wanted to test it out last night before writing about it here. It was super easy to apply it to an auto. Difficult to apply to a manual. You have to cut the oval out for the push button and it causes the vinyl to crease in a line down the length were the push button is. After you cut the oval out you need to unwrap it back to where the crease is, try to work out the crease and then wrap it down again. It worked, but my oval cut was pretty shoddy and I could still see the crease. On an auto it was flawless and super easy to do. I would highly recommend this for folks that want to tone down the look of their auto batteries.
Oh yeah, the wrap slightly increases the diameter of the battery but it still fit inside the case, usb charger and wall charger.
I would prefer to purchase less flamboyant batteries to begin with and I believe V4L will offer just that in the near future. For the time being for those that prefer a more conservative look, the vinyl wrap works great.
Hope that helps and apologies for the text wall
To the point about improvements: I've not been here long. I'm on day 17 of the big quit and haven't had an analog since this ride started. So I have no history of what was and how things have changed over time with the VK or other PV's and cartridges and batteries and on and on. I can, however, offer that Mark referred to these silver batt's as old and didn't work as well as the new ones. I can attest to the fact that the newer logo laiden batteries last longer and produce more vapor. I can't quantify that with hard numbers, I can't say it produced 7 cubic centimeters more vapor per puff or that the batteries lasted 23 minutes and 18 seconds longer per charge. Only that they are different and the newer ones perform better. Numbers I can provide is that they do have different dimensions. The old silver batts have a length of 2 7/8" while the new logo laiden batts have a length of 3 3/32". The diameter is the same on both. It makes sense, longer battery, more power, lasts longer.
Now I came across that difference because, like many in this thread, I don't care for the repetitive logo look. The company I work for does a lot of custom work. One of the tools we have at our disposal is a Stahls machine. It looks like a big old D sized engineering plotter - a great big printer. But instead of an ink head it has a blade and cuts vinyl. This is the same type of machine that cuts graphics for your car and stuff like that. Yesterday I had them cut me some rectangles in matte white vinyl that are 3 3/32" x 1 1/4". These wrap right around the battery and instantly transforms it from cartoony to reserved.
They make a ton of colors of vinyl in diferent finishes and textures. We have another machine that can print on this vinyl in full color so you could really go nuts with that if you were so inclined.
AZVagabond beat me to the post, heheh. But I wanted to test it out last night before writing about it here. It was super easy to apply it to an auto. Difficult to apply to a manual. You have to cut the oval out for the push button and it causes the vinyl to crease in a line down the length were the push button is. After you cut the oval out you need to unwrap it back to where the crease is, try to work out the crease and then wrap it down again. It worked, but my oval cut was pretty shoddy and I could still see the crease. On an auto it was flawless and super easy to do. I would highly recommend this for folks that want to tone down the look of their auto batteries.
Oh yeah, the wrap slightly increases the diameter of the battery but it still fit inside the case, usb charger and wall charger.
I would prefer to purchase less flamboyant batteries to begin with and I believe V4L will offer just that in the near future. For the time being for those that prefer a more conservative look, the vinyl wrap works great.
Hope that helps and apologies for the text wall
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Well maybe i wasn't clear with the red parts that I added in the quoted message of yours and I think I could have added more towards the end as well.... Anyway
But you are right people are smart enough....
Just one more than and I will say good day to this RyGuy
Just because it is fact in your head doesn't make it fact... and I know unless someone else proves it otherwise it will remain fact.... but that is the problem...Facts are Facts when it lies in your head its an opinion or guess.. and the issue would be when Facts in the head is put into print for all eyes to see.
an Overly exaggerated example to make a point:
LightGeoDuck
someone drinks bleach and dies
Poster:Hey Light you are wrong drinking bleach kills when consumed
LightGeoDuck: Oops thanks for the info
if wasn't wasn't written in a manner of inquiring, but in a means of defense.
Sorry I am not very articulate so my point might be a little foggy.... anyway
Good day
Sorry people. I stand corrected. I apologize for wasting all of your time by trying to provide a visual representation of how I believe V4L is trying to provide the best product possible. Nothing I said was fact and was all just my opinion. So believe that Steve's product is just like everyone elses. Fine by me. I do not know to be honest, because I have never tried any other 808. Haven't had to. I don't feel like I need to try anything else because the VK works for me. Oh, just in case I didn't mention it before, this is just my opinion. Enough of this pi55ing contest. I'm out.
The button hole might be best accomplished by burning through the vinyl rather than cutting with an x-acto knife...of course do this before applying vinyl to cig...I saw post before about people wanting to relabel carts for their flavors...this works well for them as well
Yeah, I could have the machine cut out an oval from the vinyl precisely the size and orientation of the push button in relation to it's position from the end of the battery, but I thought it would be damn near impossible to apply it so that it lines up correctly.
I'm not sure if I'm stating that clearly...
The vinyl comes on transfer paper that is tacky. You remove the backing from the vinyl which exposes the sticky side of the vinyl. This is all sitting on top of a square of transfer paper. You align the ends of the battery with the ends of the vinyl just above it on the transfer paper and it sits there nicely because the transfer paper is tacky. Then you just roll the battery down on top of the vinyl and everything lines up perfectly, a flawless application of the vinyl. If there is a pre cut oval you'd have to apply the vinyl in a different manner to get that oval to line up. I'm not sure how you would do that and get everything else to line up spot on.
Hope that makes sense...
I'm not sure if I'm stating that clearly...
The vinyl comes on transfer paper that is tacky. You remove the backing from the vinyl which exposes the sticky side of the vinyl. This is all sitting on top of a square of transfer paper. You align the ends of the battery with the ends of the vinyl just above it on the transfer paper and it sits there nicely because the transfer paper is tacky. Then you just roll the battery down on top of the vinyl and everything lines up perfectly, a flawless application of the vinyl. If there is a pre cut oval you'd have to apply the vinyl in a different manner to get that oval to line up. I'm not sure how you would do that and get everything else to line up spot on.
Hope that makes sense...
Yeah, I don't like logos all over my stuff. It's a shame because I hear good things about the VK, but the V4L logo stamped all over the battery was a deal breaker for me.
That may sound shallow but I don't care. I know personally if I don't like the way something looks I'm less inclined to use it or take it out with me, or even recommend it to a friend.
I'll stick with titanium or matte black.
That may sound shallow but I don't care. I know personally if I don't like the way something looks I'm less inclined to use it or take it out with me, or even recommend it to a friend.
I'll stick with titanium or matte black.
It's easy to make the VK batteries matte black. Go to your local hardware store, go to the electrical section and look for the pre-cut sections of heat-shrink tubing. Get the appropriate diameter (I believe the 3/8" is about right, but the 1/2" will probably shrink down enough too). Slide the tubing over the battery and then hit it with a heat gun or your blow dryer. Be careful there and don't go crazy.... just shrink the tubing. No reason to overheat the battery!
If you have a manual then you'll have to get creative and cut out the access hole.
Not only will it be matte black, it will be anti-slip and anti-skid too!
And yes, you can get heat-shrink tubing in various colors..... but probably not from your local hardware store.
If you have a manual then you'll have to get creative and cut out the access hole.
Not only will it be matte black, it will be anti-slip and anti-skid too!
And yes, you can get heat-shrink tubing in various colors..... but probably not from your local hardware store.
The things people are saying about this product being good are not hype. I thought it could be, too, until I actually got an order. It is not hype, everything everyone is saying is true about customer service and quality of product. And they will also tell you if they don't like something. Note that everyone does not fall in love with every flavor. But no one is griping about performance that I have seen. Yes, I've ordered from a couple other vendors who also threw in something extra and shipped the order fast, but I've not seen anything like what I got in my package from V4L's website. Not that I expected it or expect anything other than what I put in my shopping cart, I didn't because I've never seen anything like it. There is a passion in this seller that I have not seen from any other. Of course, they have to make money, they have to live, too. But they could make a lot more if they weren't so giving. I hope that doesn't change, I like having Christmas every time I order, but even if it weren't like that, I'd still order from them.
And for the question about the cutoff, oh how I wish I'd had a cutoff on one of my mods. It was in my gym bag, came with no case, of course, being a mod. Somehow it turned over inside the bag and the cart got pushed down, the hot atty being down so long, melted the cart with 6v of power and no release on it. Could this have caused the batts to explode from all that heat? I don't know, but holding down the atty for too long is not a good thing.
And for the question about the cutoff, oh how I wish I'd had a cutoff on one of my mods. It was in my gym bag, came with no case, of course, being a mod. Somehow it turned over inside the bag and the cart got pushed down, the hot atty being down so long, melted the cart with 6v of power and no release on it. Could this have caused the batts to explode from all that heat? I don't know, but holding down the atty for too long is not a good thing.
Just an FYI, the Super Sale kits that we have now are plain batteries in either black, white, or silver. Unfortunately they are factory sealed so we can't allow battery color selection or cartomizer selection, but they do not have the logos and we are selling them at a great price ($44.95)
I did look at another leading supplier that sells KR808s and their starter kits, while they sell plain black or silver batts, did not have a PCC. V4L does, for only about $15 more than the site I was looking at. I think their kit was about $75. Just that alone would cause me to buy a V4L...ultimate ultimatum kit with extras for only a bit more.
Plus you get extra goodies when you order with V4L. I admit I hated the logos at first but now that I have it, it really doesn't bother me.
"You don't have to add feathers to a bird to make him fly"
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