FDA A 'study' from one of FDA's sponsored labs

[TomCatt]

Hmmm, I wonder what 'scientific data' will the FDA present during it's rollout of the regs?

news-medical.net/news/
20140430/Study-Electronic-cigarette-vapors-may-worsen-acute-respiratory-diseases-among-youth.aspx

Electronic cigarette "vapors" are made of small particles containing chemicals that may cause or worsen acute respiratory diseases, including asthma and bronchitis, among youth, according to a new study by RTI International.

newsobserver.com/2014
/04/28/3819291/triangle-will-produce-much-of.html

Other federally-sponsored research on e-cigarettes in the area includes several projects at RTI International at Research Triangle Park, valued at about $3 million.

 

[Katya]

You get what you pay for.

 

[Gato del Jugo]

It seems as time goes on & they put forth their new bogus arguments & claims, they're continually & easily shot down..

And the more desperate they get, the more obnoxious & outrageous their claims become, grasping at anything & everything...


Just recently, I've heard the following from some of their "experts"...

- The anti-e-cig doctor who does advisorary studies for the FDA is "concerned" about vapor settling on couches.. whereby people will sit down and absorb nicotine through their skin

- The former NYC health commissioner is "concerned" that out of a group of 20 people in a bar, 19 would be vaping & 1 would be smoking.. and the bartender wouldn't know who to tell to put out their burning cigarette


I'm sure there are some other examples..


At this point, they're simply getting laughed at & embarrassing themselves..

If they know what's good for them, they should probably shut their mouths...


They know their smear campaign via the media isn't working, which is why they've been going the legal & regulation route..

I'm looking forward to them getting laughed at & embarrassing themselves in federal court...

 

[frosting]

So weird. I wonder why my asthma went away when I started vaping? I mean really, it's completely non-existent now. I'm a multi-mile jogger.

 

[DrMA]

OMG! more of the "fine particle" BS When are these "scientists" going to realize vapor is not made of solid particles?

 

[twgbonehead]

You get what you pay for.

Yes. What we didn't realize is when we paid for a medical exam, we got a broom-handle colonoscopy.

 

[Rossum]

- The anti-e-cig doctor who does advisorary studies for the FDA is "concerned" about vapor settling on couches.. whereby people will sit down and absorb nicotine through their skin

Two words: Vapor Pressure.

 

[Belushi]

The study found up to 40 percent of particles emitted by an e-cigarette can deposit in the deepest area of a youth's lungs.

What did they do, strap some yuts on a table and blow vapor at them. Obviously a slanted study (e.g. if you can call it that).

 

[aikanae1]

OMG. this is what I was afraid of. The ONLY approved studies the FDA accepts are the ones they paid for or that will support their opinion and outcomes. Folks, this is the worst case scenario in print.

This is a game changer. I doubt there's a shot that even a lowly clearomizer can pass the new product approval test.

 

[kellyart69]

Anytime the government gets involved with anything, Its Bad..! And The people who are not vapors, who have made any comments to me around this subject are clueless about vapeing. They believe what ever mass media tells them about it... This is all about the loss of income for big tobacco..IMHO

 

[DetraMental]

I know both my asthma and bronchitis have pretty much disappeared since vaping. These studies are one-sided which is apparent. I was using 3 inhalers and a nebulizer with 2 medicines for my lungs when I first started vaping, I am down to one inhaler that I may use once in a great blue moon now. That's my study .

 

[VapieDan]

Here is what we are up against. It is called money.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/02/fda-anti-smoking-campaigns_n_1072237.html

https://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/indusclient.php?year=2010&id=A02

 

[ambientech]

Some truth to the study. I went from using one inhaler a year to one a month and inhaled steroids after I started vaping. Thought it was just my lungs clearing up but nope, it was the vaping. I no longer inhale the vapor and my asthma has improved.

 

[TomCatt]

Some truth to the study. I went from using one inhaler a year to one a month and inhaled steroids after I started vaping. Thought it was just my lungs clearing up but nope, it was the vaping. I no longer inhale the vapor and my asthma has improved.

Some people are sensitive to PG, have you tried a 100% VG juice?

 

[Gato del Jugo]

Two words: Vapor Pressure.

How about: Dispersion & half-life?


Keep in mind, the couch thing came from Dr. Jonathan Samet, who isn't exactly our friend, here...

Chair of FDA Tobacco Advisory Committee Took Tobacco Industry Money to Help Craft Research Agenda for Fraudulent Industry Research Enterprise

http://tobaccoanalysis.blogspot.com/2010/03/chair-of-fda-scientific-advisory.html

 

[beebopnjazz]

How about: Dispersion & half-life?


Keep in mind, the couch thing came from Dr. Jonathan Samet, who isn't exactly our friend, here...

Chair of FDA Tobacco Advisory Committee Took Tobacco Industry Money to Help Craft Research Agenda for Fraudulent Industry Research Enterprise

http://tobaccoanalysis.blogspot.com/2010/03/chair-of-fda-scientific-advisory.html

Whoa! The tobacco control act specifically forbids this! I was wondering how much 'dirt' we could dig up on the committee - I wouldn't be surprised that Samet isn't the only one.

 

[Gato del Jugo]

Whoa! The tobacco control act specifically forbids this! I was wondering how much 'dirt' we could dig up on the committee - I wouldn't be surprised that Samet isn't the only one.

Need more?

From 1990...


"'They've stacked the deck with people who have close ties to the tobacco industry,' said Dr. Alan Blum, a founder of the antismoking group Doctors Ought to Care. 'It's pathetic.'

The panel members are linked to the Center for Indoor Air Research of Linthicum, Md. The center is financed by Philip Morris, the R. J. Reynolds Tobacco Company and Lorillard Inc., three of the nation's largest tobacco companies. Its board of directors is made up of employees of those companies, said Pamela Phillips, an administrator at the center."

6 Members of Panel on Smoking Have Ties to Tobacco Group - NYTimes.com

 

[ambientech]

Some people are sensitive to PG, have you tried a 100% VG juice?

I have found it makes no difference for me, it seems to be the flavorings that cause my issues. It isn't surprising as perfumes have always been a trigger for my asthma.

 

[YKruss]

I have found it makes no difference for me, it seems to be the flavorings that cause my issues. It isn't surprising as perfumes have always been a trigger for my asthma.

How about unflavored? Did you try?

 

[sqirl1]

Whoa! The tobacco control act specifically forbids this! I was wondering how much 'dirt' we could dig up on the committee - I wouldn't be surprised that Samet isn't the only one.

This just keeps getting better and better! Every time make this crap up it always turns out that we have a leg up on them. Keep digging up more things like this and a judge just might tell the FDA to go screw themselves.