A variable voltage/wattage vape cannot possibly called a "Mod", correct??

[DoctorBuzz]

From my understanding, this is correct. A mod will lack the "advanced circuit board logic" that some other vapes have...

Or perhaps variable wattage would be impossible, since it would need to be able to calculate the resistance and adjust voltage accordingly.

But could variable voltage still technically be considered a mod?? Adding a potentiometer is just like adding a switch, so maybe it is possible?? It clearly wouldn't be an accurate output based on what you're expecting, but it would be variable.

And finally, why is it that a non-regulated output is "soooo desirable"??? It's counter-intuitive, especially coming from candlepowerforums where regulated light output is what is "soooo desirable". Please explain the logic with that all together. There has to be something that I'm missing.

 

[crxess]

First it is considered:

VV Mods - Variable Voltage
VW Mods - Variable Wattage
VV/VW Mods - advantages of both means of power control
Mechanical Mods - may have wired switches
Full Mechanical Mods - No wiring
Regulated Mechanical Mods - Kicked with a regulating circuit

mod = Modified from the traditional e-cig design

Unregulated Flashlights could tend to blow lighting circuits - so, agreed

Unregulated Mechanical Mods can be driven to much higher outputs than available in most Regulated Mods. Many are limited below 5 amps and most below 3.5a.
Battery output available can be as high as 30A continuous and 60a burst.

You would need to dabble in both realms to see why some choose one rather than the other. Or like myself enjoy a bit of both.

 

[CreepyLady]

From my understanding, this is correct. A mod will lack the "advanced circuit board logic" that some other vapes have...

Or perhaps variable wattage would be impossible, since it would need to be able to calculate the resistance and adjust voltage accordingly.

But could variable voltage still technically be considered a mod?? Adding a potentiometer is just like adding a switch, so maybe it is possible?? It clearly wouldn't be an accurate output based on what you're expecting, but it would be variable.

And finally, why is it that a non-regulated output is "soooo desirable"??? It's counter-intuitive, especially coming from candlepowerforums where regulated light output is what is "soooo desirable". Please explain the logic with that all together. There has to be something that I'm missing.

A variable volt/watt device that has separate replaceable batteries is commonly referred to as a Mod or an APV, what you are referencing is a mech mod - it is purely mechanical - no variable anything. Battery tube + fire button - no options.

One reason that some prefer mech mods is that they have less pieces to actually fail and are easily repairable should one of the very few things go wrong - example - weak fire button - easily replaced. The more common reason though is that VV/VW mods have safety features that will not allow you to fire a sub-ohm coil build. Mechanical mods do not. Some like to use rebuildable atomizers at under 1 ohm resistance and they can only do so on a mech.

 

[Topwater Elvis]

It's just individual terminology useage preference.

I don't use the word mod for anything vaping related, to me it means something that has been modified from the way it was built by the manufacturer / stock form.

 

[Thrasher]

in the beginning when big battery tubes were actually modified flashlight casings the term mod was born, and it stuck and usually references anything with replaceable batteries.

the correct terms should be
APV or advanced personal vaporizers for regulated or vv/vw units
and mechanicals meaning there is no circuitry of any kind.

 

[djsvapour]

MOD = Modified from the traditional e-cig design

That's enough for me. Everything I own is a "mod" unless it's an eGo or Spinner.

We don't really use "APV" here in the UK. You either have a mod or a mech mod, or variations on that.

It would be nice for more people to use the term Personal Vapouriser (or Advanced) more often. This would make a clear distinction between "good" e-cigs and the pointless plastic placebo vanity sticks that are sweeping the nation and emptying people's bank accounts.

I met another person yesterday who has "dropped" from "20 cigarettes to about 10 a day" and spent £1,000 last year on plastic sticks.

 

[crxess]

I met another person yesterday who has "dropped" from "20 cigarettes to about 10 a day" and spent £1,000 last year on plastic sticks.

Educate!

 

[SirSteve]

in the beginning when big battery tubes were actually modified flashlight casings the term mod was born, and it stuck and usually references anything with replaceable batteries.

the correct terms should be
APV or advanced personal vaporizers for regulated or vv/vw units
and mechanicals meaning there is no circuitry of any kind.

^This is my understanding of how the term mod came into use. Although now it is used to cover almost everything that is more advanced than a cigalike, they are not technically mods. The modding sub forum has some really interesting stuff that people are doing, fun to look at now and then.

 

[djsvapour]

Educate!

Just you stop me!

 

[djsvapour]

^This is my understanding of how the term mod came into use. Although now it is used to cover almost everything that is more advanced than a cigalike, they are not technically mods. The modding sub forum has some really interesting stuff that people are doing, fun to look at now and then.

Not here though (I would have thought). More than a cig-a-like is probably just an eGo. More than an eGo with an independent battery is a mod.

What does it make an MVP v.2 though? I called it a battery yesterday as opposed to a "mod" trying to explain where I felt it should fit in.

 

[dice57]

I usually refer to my Provari as a regulated device, though in a sense I have done mod's on it since I use the Tatroe extension ring and base for it, and I always us an rba on it, which since I do my own builds that are often different, the whole thing can be considered a mod. When referring to mechanical devices, I often use the term mech mod, since they are modular and tubes can be swapped out to accommodate different size batteries. And all mechanicals are basically modified versions of a tube, battery and a switch.

If you don't modify it is it a mod? Who cares, it's my vape gear and it rocks. APV, PV, mod, ego's, ego twist all are modifications of the original vaporizer, but would never refer to an ego as a mod, but one could argue that it could be. lmao.

 

[Riverboat]

Mechanical with a Kick2.....Now that's my idea of a Mod/APV

 

[DoctorBuzz]

in the beginning when big battery tubes were actually modified flashlight casings the term mod was born, and it stuck and usually references anything with replaceable batteries.

the correct terms should be
APV or advanced personal vaporizers for regulated or vv/vw units
and mechanicals meaning there is no circuitry of any kind.

^This is my understanding of how the term mod came into use. Although now it is used to cover almost everything that is more advanced than a cigalike, they are not technically mods. The modding sub forum has some really interesting stuff that people are doing, fun to look at now and then.

Hmm... so, basically, mod doesn't mean anything other than something that isn't a cigalike or an ego. Even some egos can be mods.

I could've sworn that mod was synonymous with "mechanical", not necessarily "replaceable battery". But now it is "advanced personal vape", which can actually include an ego.

I guess my real question now should be... what is the point of a mechanical vape? From another's post earlier, the benefit is the SHORT BURST in voltage after initially charging said mechanical vape. But wouldn't a VV/VW vape be capable of providing a GREATER BURST, not to mention a MORE ACCURATE *AND* PERSISTENT VAPE??

 

[Ryedan]

Hmm... so, basically, mod doesn't mean anything other than something that isn't a cigalike or an ego. Even some egos can be mods.

I could've sworn that mod was synonymous with "mechanical", not necessarily "replaceable battery". But now it is "advanced personal vape", which can actually include an ego.

I guess my real question now should be... what is the point of a mechanical vape? From another's post earlier, the benefit is the SHORT BURST in voltage after initially charging said mechanical vape. But wouldn't a VV/VW vape be capable of providing a GREATER BURST, not to mention a MORE ACCURATE *AND* PERSISTENT VAPE??

eGos are not considered mods or APVs.

There are only a few regulated pvs that allow current output above 5 amps. None that I know of go over 10A and 50 watts. Very few allow very low resistance coils to be fired, say below about 0.8 ohms. All these restrictions go away with a non electronic pv. You can discharge the battery at any current you want. Using that correctly gives a very nice vape that is difficult to accomplish with all but the few most powerful pvs.

We don't consider discharging a battery into its burst current rates a safe practice. We do use IMR or hybrid batteries, but coils short and people typically leave current headroom for that to avoid venting.

 

[Bunnykiller]

A VV/VW can be a mod. If I were to take a flashlight tube and modify it into a vaping unit and add a VV/VW board to that flashlite tube, then yes, its a mod

 

[BigDoctorJ]

I have a question. I have a dual coil igo w reading 1.3 ohms. Micro coil with 12 or 14 wraps (can't remember). It's on my vamo and I like it at 6v. From what I've read I'm really in an unsafe amp level right? I'm not burning out anything and the vape is awesome. Batteries are safe chemistry. Thoughts?


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[bcalvanese]

My Head hurts.

 

[AttyPops]

I have a question. I have a dual coil igo w reading 1.3 ohms. Micro coil with 12 or 14 wraps (can't remember). It's on my vamo and I like it at 6v. From what I've read I'm really in an unsafe amp level right? I'm not burning out anything and the vape is awesome. Batteries are safe chemistry. Thoughts?


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Don't be afraid to start a new thread and re-ask this. It's more focused that way.

 

[AttyPops]

Adding to the confusion....Mods and Modding are (now anyway) different things.

A mod can be mass produced and purchased.
Modders, are NOT people that use mods, bur rather people that MODify things and build their own e-cigs. Both mechanical and APV ish and everywhere in between. It can also include paint, wrappers, etc. (bling added to stock stuff). There's a separate sub-form for modding.