Aaron from A Billion Lives responds to questions

Status
Not open for further replies.

Debadoo

ECF Guru
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
May 18, 2012
18,052
133,969
Texas, near Fort Hood
vape" data-source="post: 17997621" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch">
Von vape said:
Deba..... I think it is more of an "awareness" tactic (geeze I hate using that term) Chances are NO U.S. theatre has even heard of this film and if enough people call in and ask about it, the hope is that they will in turn start inquiring themselves, creating even more "buzz" in the very place the "buzz" needs to be, the motion picture distributors. (Brilliany idea BTW!!! That's what I'm talkin' about when I say ALL of us are smarter than any ONE of us.
ok......that makes sense! lol Will add this to the other thread.
 

mcclintock

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
  • Oct 28, 2014
    1,547
    1,787
    This is all depends on how we take this product.
    If it is an alternative and helps to quit smoking,then it is OK.
    If it is an alternative but some new users may develop ,then
    it is not OK.

    That in a nutshell is what the anti-tobacco, anti-harm-reduction crowd fears the most, that it will be found all but harmless and become as or more popular than smoking is now. And I think it will if seen as that safe and quite enjoyable, and what's wrong with that if it's true, and popularity is not driven by substantial addictiveness either? Only if you dislike people enjoying themselves or can't see past the appearance.

    And, no one can say what would have happened to any of the affected people in an alternate reality where vaping was never invented.
     

    Lisa66

    Vaping Master
    ECF Veteran
    Jan 23, 2011
    4,729
    25,555
    Florida
    Thank you for your efforts....so glad you have this connection and that he generously explained a lot of the outstanding questions. I cannot wait to view this film.

    I essentially ditched this site some time ago. The current events have brought me back. The size and power of a site like this......makes me reconsider in times like these.
     

    Robino1

    Resting in Peace
    ECF Veteran
    Sep 7, 2012
    27,447
    110,403
    Treasure Coast, Florida
    Thank you for your efforts....so glad you have this connection and that he generously explained a lot of the outstanding questions. I cannot wait to view this film.

    I essentially ditched this site some time ago. The current events have brought me back. The size and power of a site like this......makes me reconsider in times like these.
    Welcome back, Lisa :) Nice to see you again!

    Advocacy and information are very much a big part of ECF.
     

    StratOvation

    Super Member
    ECF Veteran
    Mar 10, 2009
    373
    17
    Michigan, USA
    Another idea for those that subscribe to any "streaming services" Netflix, Amazon Prime, ETC... Contact your provider and request that they offer the movie. I received this reply from Amazon:

    Hello Michael,

    From your email, I understand that you want us to add "A Billion Lives" video to prime videos.

    First of all, let me thank you for suggesting such an interesting video for adding to the Amazon Videos. We would definitely try to contact the production house and make agreements with them, so that we can provide this video for our valuable prime customers.

    But please understand that we can make the video available to you only after the content accepts our request to provide it to us.

    I have personally forwarded your comments to the Amazon Video team and requested them to consider this for adding it to the Prime catalog in the coming future. Please be rest assured, we value every feedback or recommendations of our customers and strive hard to reach your expectations in providing the services.

    Thank you for being a great customer. We value your relationship with us.

    We look forward to seeing you gain soon.

    We'd appreciate your feedback. Please use the links below to tell us about your experience today.

    Best regards,
    Vinay S
     

    sofarsogood

    Vaping Master
    ECF Veteran
    Oct 12, 2014
    5,553
    14,168
    Perhaps some delay in release of the movie in the US will be a good thing. May be in some months there will be more public interest in the topic. May be some more drama in court or congress will tune more people in. May be the supply restrictions starting in August will stir things up. The important thing is what gets done legally or politically in the long run.

    Somebody mentioned a trend of people taking up vaping who never smoked. On principle I feel some regret about that but I bet most of them will lose interest eventually ,especially the kids. Blowing clouds is a novelty that could fade. All my contacts with never smoking vapers so far indicate that they aren't jonsing for nic. If that was a problem it would be a problem with the gum and patches and it isn't, which is why they are sold without a prescription.

    But never smoking vapers are probably a political asset. They aren't used to being treated disrespectfully the way former smokers are. They may not take kindly to being treated that way. In the mean time it appears vaping is crushing smoking by kids. They see vaping as cooler than smoking. If that took hold it would save a billion lives (to coin a phrase).
     

    Drumonron

    Ultra Member
    ECF Veteran
    Verified Member
    Sep 25, 2009
    2,312
    1,487
    58
    Perhaps some delay in release of the movie in the US will be a good thing. May be in some months there will be more public interest in the topic. May be some more drama in court or congress will tune more people in. May be the supply restrictions starting in August will stir things up. The important thing is what gets done legally or politically in the long run.

    Somebody mentioned a trend of people taking up vaping who never smoked. On principle I feel some regret about that but I bet most of them will lose interest eventually ,especially the kids. Blowing clouds is a novelty that could fade. All my contacts with never smoking vapers so far indicate that they aren't jonsing for nic. If that was a problem it would be a problem with the gum and patches and it isn't, which is why they are sold without a prescription.

    But never smoking vapers are probably a political asset. They aren't used to being treated disrespectfully the way former smokers are. They may not take kindly to being treated that way. In the mean time it appears vaping is crushing smoking by kids. They see vaping as cooler than smoking. If that took hold it would save a billion lives (to coin a phrase).

    Some people eat chips, fast food, diet coke, too. The right to start doing something you like such as drinking coffee, eating food that is perhaps not good for oneself is a liberty. Listen, the horrible snack foods of the world are far more dangerous to our lives than "e-cigarettes". The only thing that matters is that folks are given "The Truth" about what is going into their bodies. If a non-vapor decides to take up vaping, that is a liberty. My two cents - the gov't is suppose to be there to verify what is said to be in something IS in fact the ingredients that are contained therein. Not to misinform. This reminds me of subprime stocks that caused the world economy to collapse. The public was misinformed over and over to the detriment of the middle class....here we go again....misinforming and incorrectly regulating and taxing all at the expense of....let's hear it...you know the answer...the middle and lower classes.
     
    Last edited:

    Tamalam

    Full Member
    Jul 15, 2015
    6
    2
    46
    • Deleted by sonicdsl
    • Reason: Unequivocally off topic

    Debadoo

    ECF Guru
    ECF Veteran
    Verified Member
    May 18, 2012
    18,052
    133,969
    Texas, near Fort Hood
    Another idea for those that subscribe to any "streaming services" Netflix, Amazon Prime, ETC... Contact your provider and request that they offer the movie. I received this reply from Amazon:
    Thanks! That is great, but what I gather from the webinar, he's only interested in doing this, if they will promote it in theaters. If it goes on YT, netflix, amazon prime etc, then pretty much only those folks will see it and it won't make a big enough impact for those in Congress to sit up and take notice.

    Appreciate everyone's help so much!! Also let those you know, know about this thread. The more we get working on this, the better!
     

    GunMonkeyINTL

    Senior Member
    ECF Veteran
    Verified Member
    Jun 14, 2014
    244
    1,002
    NC
    This film was one of the few sources of hope that I thought we had, in the long term, once it made it to wide distribution. Honestly, though, I hadn't watched anything on it yet, and was just going on what I was told it was about.

    Watching the interview on this thread, I decided to watch the trailer...

    ..ohhhh...noooo...ooo....

    There's a clip where the director says "165,000 kids will die this year from second-hand smoke..."

    Really?
    I mean....really?

    I hope that's just one example of a poor choice on their part, just an anomaly, and not representative of the tack they take throughout the whole film.

    I'm still open minded, and hopeful that this film can be great, but telling the same sort of lies that the anti-vaping crowd uses, just with a pro-vaping slant, could ruin the value of this thing.

    Fingers crossed that that is the only (or, at least, one of the only) outrageous lies the filmmakers chose to use.

    Who knows? Maybe it was out of context, and the rest of the clip was him saying "...is just an example of the type of lies that are being told about tobacco, and lies like that are now being used against vaping."

    Probably not, but could be, right?
    ...yeah.
    Probably not.
     

    Lessifer

    Vaping Master
    ECF Veteran
    Verified Member
    Feb 5, 2013
    8,309
    28,986
    Sacramento, California
    This film was one of the few sources of hope that I thought we had, in the long term, once it made it to wide distribution. Honestly, though, I hadn't watched anything on it yet, and was just going on what I was told it was about.

    Watching the interview on this thread, I decided to watch the trailer...

    ..ohhhh...noooo...ooo....

    There's a clip where the director says "165,000 kids will die this year from second-hand smoke..."

    Really?
    I mean....really?

    I hope that's just one example of a poor choice on their part, just an anomaly, and not representative of the tack they take throughout the whole film.

    I'm still open minded, and hopeful that this film can be great, but telling the same sort of lies that the anti-vaping crowd uses, just with a pro-vaping slant, could ruin the value of this thing.

    Fingers crossed that that is the only (or, at least, one of the only) outrageous lies the filmmakers chose to use.

    Who knows? Maybe it was out of context, and the rest of the clip was him saying "...is just an example of the type of lies that are being told about tobacco, and lies like that are now being used against vaping."

    Probably not, but could be, right?
    ...yeah.
    Probably not.
    I haven't seen it so I don't know how they approach this. I've always been a little unsure how to approach this myself. It's part of the "nut job" aspect of all of this.

    I don't believe SHS is as bad as they say it is, but I also believe that long term exposure can cause some significant harm. It would be great if we knew the truth.

    However, the "masses" believe the lies, and this is one case where those lies can come back to bite them, so is it completely wrong to use that?
     

    Pinot

    Senior Member
    ECF Veteran
    Jun 7, 2014
    124
    140
    New Zealand
    I haven't seen it so I don't know how they approach this. I've always been a little unsure how to approach this myself. It's part of the "nut job" aspect of all of this.

    I don't believe SHS is as bad as they say it is, but I also believe that long term exposure can cause some significant harm. It would be great if we knew the truth.

    However, the "masses" believe the lies, and this is one case where those lies can come back to bite them, so is it completely wrong to use that?

    I have seen the movie, it is definitely worth supporting. It does not contain any of the second hand smoke garbage
     

    Debadoo

    ECF Guru
    ECF Veteran
    Verified Member
    May 18, 2012
    18,052
    133,969
    Texas, near Fort Hood
    There's a clip where the director says "165,000 kids will die this year from second-hand smoke..."

    This is awesome haha, much more relaxed, it's nice to just chat :rickroll:
    I haven't seen the film obviously, and I'm also not totally on board with the SHS issue, but..... I do believe that he would have used it in a way to promote vaping! That is what the WHO and FDA say, so ok.......let's get more people vaping there will be less SHS. Since y'all say this is for the kids.......less will die so there!! :pervy: that type of stuff.
     

    Von Vape

    Super Member
    ECF Veteran
    Mar 17, 2016
    491
    10,237
    I have seen the movie, it is definitely worth supporting. It does not contain any of the second hand smoke garbage
    Once again, THANK YOU for sharing this. :thumb: Sincerely! As a member from New Zealand who was fortunate enough to see the premier, you're direct knowledge is a HUGE benefit to this thread.
    Ironically, we here in the states, only have the trailers, some over a year old, to "go on/go by".
    As with any feature length production, "things" (including the directors thoughts & opinions) change and the "final cut" may very well be somewhat different than "snippets" from a year or more ago. ;)
    Perhaps if you felt like it and have the time, a condensed "review" of the film would be helpful. The comments you've already made are greatly appreciated though and I would just like to thank you again for the information and support. :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs:

    :cool: Von Vape :cool:
     
    Status
    Not open for further replies.

    Users who are viewing this thread