that seems too pricey to me for what it is (and what it appears to be). For another $40 I'd take the full system like Penelope or Ody any day.
Imeo, maybe you could minimize the engraving to cut down on production costs.
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that seems too pricey to me for what it is (and what it appears to be). For another $40 I'd take the full system like Penelope or Ody any day.
Imeo, maybe you could minimize the engraving to cut down on production costs.
no, never, engravings are one of the many details that make GG products so special!!
Maybe there could be engraved Achilles for those who want to pay a little more for something beautiful and functional, and unengraved Achilles for less cost for those who prefer functionality over aesthetics.
Agreed - it's going to sell like hotcakes!
(agreeing with roszam's earlier post - I couldn't get the qoutes to work - lol)
(agreeing with roszam's earlier post - I couldn't get the qoutes to work - lol)
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ana, first of all Achilles is not carto. Second, its not Iken or cisco. And third, you said it yourself that the atomizers you mention are far too expensive for not been rebuildables. Fouth, Achilles is not a pain to make it. Its not made like phoenix or viva that its a pain to rebuild them. I didnt know about those atomizers until I saw them in a video after your post
River, Achilles has a little lower cost than Ody. Thats why I desided to sell it at that price. And think that a rebuildable that is not a pain to build it and at that size and with liquid control really worth its money.
Ody was very cheap for what he was. Also if you compare it with other mods's prices was even more cheap.
I understand why you find Achilles expensive. Its because you think its made cheap like the rest thin atomizers but its not like this. You will understand when you will see its internals
River, Achilles has a little lower cost than Ody. Thats why I desided to sell it at that price. And think that a rebuildable that is not a pain to build it and at that size and with liquid control really worth its money.
Ody was very cheap for what he was. Also if you compare it with other mods's prices was even more cheap.
I understand why you find Achilles expensive. Its because you think its made cheap like the rest thin atomizers but its not like this. You will understand when you will see its internals
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i have to apologize to you, first of all, your products are the best In my very humble opinion, Imeo. You have been nothing but kind and helpful. I know its it nothing like a carto only in the size and shape and purpose, which is to enjoy vaping. I know its nothing like the Cisco and HH....357 nor the IKV. THe achilles is something for a lifetime and the quality and the hours it took for you to go from Imagining it to bringing it to life is the difference in this and all other items.
I suppose I thought I would be able to throw all my cartomizers away and never look back. I have about 15 beautiful pyrex and 6 Kir Fanis tanks ( a small fortune in itself in the sceme of things) but I really was looking forward to getting at least 5 so I could have them in rotation. I guess Im not in the same league as most GG customers and most likely never will. It was hard to save all the money I did on the Ody I was lucky enough to get and all the parts I bought to put another one together in the last presale was only possible because of my overextended credit cards. I will pay them off with Christmas money.
Enough whining, on my part. I guess you hear enough of that. I just got surprised by the price. I will hopefully be able to get one and treasure it like a rare thing. I thank you and hope you can forgive a moment of childish envy.
I suppose I thought I would be able to throw all my cartomizers away and never look back. I have about 15 beautiful pyrex and 6 Kir Fanis tanks ( a small fortune in itself in the sceme of things) but I really was looking forward to getting at least 5 so I could have them in rotation. I guess Im not in the same league as most GG customers and most likely never will. It was hard to save all the money I did on the Ody I was lucky enough to get and all the parts I bought to put another one together in the last presale was only possible because of my overextended credit cards. I will pay them off with Christmas money.
Enough whining, on my part. I guess you hear enough of that. I just got surprised by the price. I will hopefully be able to get one and treasure it like a rare thing. I thank you and hope you can forgive a moment of childish envy.
Well I won't jump or complain about the price yet ... We all just saw the size right . How can we judge something , if we dont know what's under the hood.
Now about comparing the oddy/penny to Achilles , well maybe right now I understand that for only 40/50 more you can get a penny or oddy or a ufs ... And I understand , But in life is not always , the bigger the better
"well maybe I better speak only for men " 
...... But I mean we don't know much yet really about Achilles exept that ..it works in a tank, it has air control and flow control and it's rebiuldable ........ For me these things will already make me feel better in justifying paying the 20 more then I pay for an atty " that is good , but those not do a friction more then that"..
May its just me.
Now about comparing the oddy/penny to Achilles , well maybe right now I understand that for only 40/50 more you can get a penny or oddy or a ufs ... And I understand , But in life is not always , the bigger the better
"well maybe I better speak only for men " ...... But I mean we don't know much yet really about Achilles exept that ..it works in a tank, it has air control and flow control and it's rebiuldable ........ For me these things will already make me feel better in justifying paying the 20 more then I pay for an atty " that is good , but those not do a friction more then that"..May its just me.
Oddy was 
... what you mean was 
... Hope to see more runs of oddy too " I know there's Achilles but oddy is a very very very very gooood atty Imeo .
And about price ... We all know Imeo never pushed his prices !!
Oddy at €90
Penny at €90
Vs
Russia €150
So make the math ...... If Imeo said its the best price , just trust him it is !!
... what you mean was ... Hope to see more runs of oddy too " I know there's Achilles but oddy is a very very very very gooood atty Imeo .And about price ... We all know Imeo never pushed his prices !!
Oddy at €90
Penny at €90
Vs
Russia €150
So make the math ...... If Imeo said its the best price , just trust him it is !!
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can I have some apple pie with that? (aka as bookmark thread so it shows on "my posts")
If you throw in numbers - please do the math right. You can't compare apples with peaches. Add a few tanks (15ml) , long mouthpiece and a "not available cone" to your calculation. Don't get me wrong - i love gg-products and got a few of them - but stay fair.
Just watched the video and it's looking great!
for use in carto tanks though, it seems the holes are a bit too high?
it looks like you'd have to keep your tank filled halfway in order for it to keep wicking properly, kind of defeating the purpose of the tank.
for use in carto tanks though, it seems the holes are a bit too high?
it looks like you'd have to keep your tank filled halfway in order for it to keep wicking properly, kind of defeating the purpose of the tank.
Any chance at getting a sneek peak before the pre sale if there is one? It might help push some people over the edge to buy one if they see how easy it is to rebuild.
i hope its something different than italian abr mc A.R.B. (atom rigenerabile per box mod) .
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What is the price of that mod? As far as I can see this is made by a private modder and you cannot compare prices between a private man and a company. Imeo has to pay material and the machine shop, the shops have to earn something as well, then there are taxes and last but not least Imeo should also earn a few bucks with his work!
Despite that I am pretty sure that Achilles will have more features and be more stable and convenient than this mod, to be fair it looks not bad and I would have tried to get some a few month ago but now I will happily wait for Achilles cause I am sure that it will be great!
Despite that I am pretty sure that Achilles will have more features and be more stable and convenient than this mod, to be fair it looks not bad and I would have tried to get some a few month ago but now I will happily wait for Achilles cause I am sure that it will be great!
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i dont know the prices of both,dont know for the italian modder but for the greek(its a team,not only one) they dont own a cnc,and what they made they sell from shop,so they also pay taxes.last driping mod was at 45€.
as i wrote before im very interesting how achilles looks from inside but i prefer to see ithaka first to production line
as i wrote before im very interesting how achilles looks from inside but i prefer to see ithaka first to production line
Everything has it's price. It based on many factors like production cost, taxes, transportation and many more. I'm sure Imeo will set minimum possible price, but it is a bottom mark he can not go below. The small device like Achilles require more work than most larger devices. So, because less material used the final price has to be lower?
You're walking into Mercedes dealership and telling 'em you want your 600 for the price of Toyota Camri because the KIA dealership across the street sells their cars dirt cheap.. LOL
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So Tarkve,different quantities of ss will have the same price! for god shake! I think buying Achilles youll pay the idea and the absolute result not the weight of ss.On the other hand someone can stay vaping chinese atties and not the First GG Rebuildable 510 dimensions atomizer in the world.
basic feeding holes come exactly 1mm after the base of the tank that I use pho
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