(ACSH) Dispatch: E-Cigs Brings ACSH E-Harmony

[ezmoose]

Dispatch: E-Cigs Brings ACSH E-Harmony > Facts & Fears > ACSH

 

[rothenbj]

I emailed them my story as per the article. Anything that we can provide to friendly ears is important.

 

[Vocalek]

We all need to do this!


email morning@acsh.org or Tweet @JeffACSH

and tell your story.

 

[CJsKee]

I know there is a whole section of the forum devoted to folks' stories, but I can't find it Could we send Jeff a link to it?

 

[Lil' Lou]

Done! ;-)

 

[C-kool Dad '09]

Me to.

 

[ezmoose]

Emailed my story.

 

[GregH]

Emailed my story.

As did I....

 

[Vocalek]

I sent a second email to discuss the issue of "more research is needed." Here's an excerpt.

I agree with you that we need definitive research as proof that the electronic cigarette is one of the most effective smoking abstinence tools the world has ever seen. But I fear that the “Tics” (tobacco Control Community) will sabotage such research. They will insist on keeping the nicotine dosages low – which will be too low to help many people and thus make the product appear to be less effective than it actually is.

I, for example, was still experiencing problems with concentration and memory when I first began using an e-cigarette with what was then called the “high” level of nicotine – 16 mg. / g. When I purchased liquid and began refilling my cartridges with 24 mg. / g. solution, my problems were solved. Some of our community (e-cigarette-forum.com) report that something is missing from the e-cigarette experience and conjecture that it is the MAOIs present in tobacco. Those folks have added some snus to their program and their problems were solved.

Another issue that arises among new e-cigarette users is proper technique. Just puffing the way you do on a smoked cigarette is not the most effective way to get nicotine into the body. To really measure the effectiveness of the product, the research would need to allow new users to be coached by experienced ones.

Another way I could see the Tics sabotaging the research is by insisting that the design includes weaning down off nicotine like the FDA-approved NRTs. In that case, I fear that we well see the same results as NRTs. They work fine while folks are using them. Once they stop, the overwhelming majority of ex-users relapse. And, unfortunately, they tend to relapse to the most efficient means of nicotine intake: smoking.

Levothyroxine comes in a wide variety of dosages because all bodies are not identical. By the same token, all smokers are not identical. Some can and do wean off nicotine with no ill effects. Some can maintain for years on low doses of nicotine delivered via gum or lozenges. Some can achieve and maintain smoking abstinence by using the 6 mg., 12 mg. or 16 mg. e-cigarette liquid. The CASAA survey indicates that 57% of users need 18 mg. or stronger, with 34% requiring 24 mg. or higher.

So, any ideas on how we get an IRB to approve a design that allows subjects to be coached by experienced users on proper technique? And allow subjects to increase their nicotine dosage until they experience no cravings to smoke and no abstinence symptoms? And that doesn’t insist they stop using the product after a set period of time?

Food for thought, no?

The subject line was "Nicotine Maintenance Therapy"

 

[kristin]

Very good points to make, Elaine!

 

[ezmoose]

Indeed, any study that recruits inexperienced vapers or uses smoking machines designed to test cigarettes is bound to provide inaccurate results; such as the sucking study that sucked! lol Is anyone looking for test subjects? I'll volunteer; I'm a 36mg/ml vaper.

 

[rothenbj]

We all need to do this!


email morning@acsh.org or Tweet @JeffACSH

and tell your story.

I got a response back from them looking to do webcam interviews for youtube. Unfortunately, I don't have those capabilities due to my location, but I wrote back and let him know that I could probably find willing participants. I'm waiting for a return email, but figured I'd put the word out.

Anyone interested could PM me with and email address that I could provide them.

 

[Vocalek]

I got a response back from them looking to do webcam interviews for youtube. Unfortunately, I don't have those capabilities due to my location, but I wrote back and let him know that I could probably find willing participants. I'm waiting for a return email, but figured I'd put the word out.

Anyone interested could PM me with and email address that I could provide them.

TrueLove is already doing stuff like this.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/campaigning-discussions/99735-video-true-love-stories.html

I suggest you send TrueLove a PM and give him the contact information.

 

[Tampa2]

@Vocalek
"The CASAA survey indicates that 57% of users need 18 mg. or stronger, with 34% requiring 24 mg. or higher."

Believe this or not, but when I raised the High level from 24MG to 26MG, just those 2 MG made all the difference in a new convert vaper's urge to smoke an analog cig. This is tested and proven.

 

[bassnut]

Where are the comments? So far they're showing only one response.

 

[rothenbj]

TrueLove is already doing stuff like this.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/campaigning-discussions/99735-video-true-love-stories.html

I suggest you send TrueLove a PM and give him the contact information.

Sent of to him, hopefully he'll get it and get back affirmatively. Just in case, here is what I got back from Derek-

He could do the interview on skype ... or if someone wanted to record a short video for them, they could email it in a number of formats (DV, DV widescreen, HDV, Mpeg-4, Isight, Quicktime...). He'll probably need it by early next week.

"Here are some questions...
Could you tell us your name, age, and where you live? (You don't have to give your full name if you don't want to, but it helps to add credibility — so people don't think you're someone we've made you up or something.)
How long had you been smoking before you tried e-cigarettes?
Had you tried to quit before?
Do you still use regular cigarettes?
What made you want to try e-cigarettes?
How long have you been using them, and what was your experience been with them?
Do you feel like your health has improved?
Any negative effects related to e-cigarettes?

Anything else people should know about e-cigarettes?


Any help you could give us would be great!"

Anyone interested that has the time and video capabilities or wants to ask Derek any questions about the project, please PM me. I have his skype username and email address that I can provide, but didn't feel I should publicly post it here.

 

[rothenbj]

Where are the comments? So far they're showing only one response.

I would suppose they aren't or haven't posted the emails to the web site. I suppose the one comment was entered directly on the site rather than sending in an email.

 

[GregH]

Anyone interested that has the time and video capabilities or wants to ask Derek any questions about the project, please PM me. I have his skype username and email address that I can provide, but didn't feel I should publicly post it here.

I have been in contact with Derek and plan on recording a video for him this weekend.

 

[wv2win]

I just sent them an email with my personal experience. When I reseached their councel, I found out that John Stossel is a supporter and that his brother is on the Board of Directors. I have mentioned on ECF before that Stossel would be a good person to do a segment from his show on personal vaporizers. I also suggested that in my email to Jeff Stiel.

 

[rothenbj]

I have been in contact with Derek and plan on recording a video for him this weekend.

That's great Greg. I was hoping we'd have people step up and give it a go. All exposure we can provide at this point is positive in my mind. Well, unless you decide to do a trench coat thing while your vaping. Couldn't resist.