Add Water ti VG/PG?

[Fuzzy Thunderbear]

Somewhere on here I thought I read something about someone (pretty vague, right?) adding distilled water to the e-liquids. Given that both VG and PG are water based liquids, this seems feasible, but...

Well, what, if any, advantages does this have? '
Why?
How much?
Won't you lose flavor?
Will the coil heat such a solution at a different rate?
Less vapor?

Anything you knowledgeable vapers can add would be greatly appreciated.

Hogs & Quiches y'all.
Fuzzy

 

[Debadoo]

The only reason you'd really want to add water to vg is to thin it down if you're vaping nearly all vg and it's too thick to wick properly. Can't imagine any reason you'd add it to a high pg juice. You only need to add 1 drop at a time, just a little will do a lot and most agree that distilled water is best to add.

 

[Fuzzy Thunderbear]

Thanks Debadoo. If my liquid mix is max VP (what is that? 80/20?) then a tiny bit of water is OK, but only if it doesn't wick well... I'm a total newbie on this, so I am going to assume that as long as I am getting an acceptable about of vapor, I should leave it alone. Right?

Hogs,
Fuzzy

 

[WonderDude32]

Right. If you're dripping and using max vg, you won't have any problems. If you use a tank that is having some trouble with thicker juices, an option is to add distilled water. Some people use vodka or grain alcohol. If you encounter a juice too thick, DO NOT add tap water. There's too many chemicals in it to vape without harm.

 

[Fuzzy Thunderbear]

Well, our tap water is deep aquifer well water, not city or reservoir water (no added chemicals, no pollution), but I wouldn't even bother to use that because there is a slight (very slight) mineral content that could possibly contaminate the coil or clog the wick. As remote as that possibility is, why take the chance of screwing up the equipment?

Wifey just read somewhere else on this forum that some guy adds 5% water to his because of chest pain or something like that (I personally did not see that particular thread).

Thanks for the responses,
Fuzzy

 

[WonderDude32]

It's not about what will happen to the gear. It's about inhalation. You can eat things that don't harm you in the least bit, but if you vape them, you could die. Last night someone asked if you could add lemon juice concentrate to give it a acidic flavor or would using real lemon juice be better. Vaping lemon juice or any fruit juice might land you in the hospital. Even the best treated well water has traces of sulfur and the salt not something you would want to breath either. Distilled water can dilute heavy VG juices so they can wick better but I've only ever heard of someone using a few drops in a 30ml bottle.

 

[Fuzzy Thunderbear]

I agree with you on most of your points, but not about my tested well water. I also understand that others are reading this thread and maybe some of them are silly enough to think their tap water will be OK.

I live on a farm/ranch in the middle of the prairie. I breathe in dust (and other particulates of Nature) all day long, which contains all (or more) of the minerals that might be in my well water. Thankfully, I do not have to contend with all the heavier (and worse for your health) pollutants of city life. I would never be even the least concerned with getting any of the minerals that are in my water into my lungs, given what else goes in there routinely... not to mention about 50 years of cigarette, cigar, and pipe tobacco smoke (over 66 if you consider my mother's secondhand smoke). But that is why I am here... I am trying to change that.

 

[Debadoo]

so I am going to assume that as long as I am getting an acceptable about of vapor, I should leave it alone. Right?

jup. But I would also say distilled, and did even lol But do as you see fit. Yeah we do breathe tons of pollutants, but it's not just the minerals that could be there, but the size of the particles that may not be so great for the lungs. For me, I just wouldn't use anything other than distilled as far as water goes.

You can eat things that don't harm you in the least bit, but if you vape them, you could die. Last night someone asked if you could add lemon juice concentrate to give it a acidic flavor or would using real lemon juice be better. Vaping lemon juice or any fruit juice might land you in the hospital.

I do add a few drops of lemon juice to many DIY's. According to Kurt Kistler who is kind of our resident chemist, he sees no issue in vaping a few drops of lemon juice or apple cider vinegar. I'm no expert by any means, but he is and I trust him. usually 3 drops per 10 mls makes the juice kinda pop sometimes.

 

[Alien Traveler]

You can add up to 10-12% water to your juice with no problems.
Do not be afraid to make a test butch with tap water (some people even add salt to their juices). If you decide you like juice thinned with water, the you'd better buy distilled water.

 

[Fuzzy Thunderbear]

As I said in a previous post... of course I would use only distilled water... regardless of how clean my well water is. But even then, all of you must know that factory-produced distilled water is not bottled in a clean room; it's open to factory air, and gawd only knows what crap is in their air. OK, somewhere between a couple drops and 12% of the total volume.

Lemon juice and AC vinegar? Never even thought of that. Do they heat well? How's the vapor density? Big cloud? Little cloud? No effect on cloud? Adds a pop???

Wary interestink,
Fuzzy

 

[garryg]

I use distilled water in my max VG mixes. If I add 10% I do notice a slight loss of flavor.

 

[GeorgeS]

Funny, I recently started a thread with about the same topic - adding DI-Water to your juice.

While my current tank of 25/75% PG/VG is 'sputtering' on the 5% water content, I had a tank this weekend with 1ml DI+4ml VG and it vaped heavenly. It flowed so much better in my Aspire Nautilus tank I was able to crank the wattage up much higher than without the water content. (I'm currently not using any flavors)

For the record, there are three popular methods of creating pure water: from steam collection, electrically (then recombine the gasses to reform water) and industrial particle filters.

 

[Debadoo]

Lemon juice and AC vinegar? Never even thought of that. Do they heat well? How's the vapor density? Big cloud? Little cloud? No effect on cloud? Adds a pop???

yeah, typically no issues on coils that I've ever found, you're just adding a small amount, so I notice no real change in vapor, although I vape very high pg, and get plenty of vapor for me, so it's not an issue. It's just something to make your juices pop a bit, like adding some lemon juice to a blueberry pie. You don't taste the lemon juice/zest, much if any, just makes the blueberries taste better. typically lemon juice for fruity juices 3 drops per 10 mls of juice, and ACV for bakery or savory juices. Some use lemon juice only. No issues with vaping it according to our resident chemist. Really makes a difference with DIY, but can also do the same for store bought juices. Give it a shot, see what you think

 

[Mark Spivey]

I tend to put about 10 drops of distilled water in my max VG 30 mil bottle mixes.

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