Adding 50mg/ml nicotine to juices already containing nic

[zoiDman]

Kudos to you Zoidman,
I appreciate your polite answer to my post.

In your latest post, I agree with everything although most doesn't apply to me because I have a proven high tolerance to NIC.

I appreciate your reserve, You were nice not to call me a Numbskull or Idiot, My tolerance level to nicotine is sky high, but I agree the average joe should be very careful. What has no effect on me could do some serious damage to another.

By the way I thought my solution to his mixing was a great rubber band solution. I wish that was what had received the comments on. Sigh...

I never call people a Numbskull or an Idiot. That is, Unless they post like a Numbskull or an Idiot.

I didn't see anything wrong with your post.

I just wanted to say to Anyone using High mg Nicotine Base that it Can Be Dangerous if not handled Properly.

 

[Blaziken1222]

If you need to ask it's probably not a good idea IMO.
Using nicotine solutions > 36mg/ml can get dangerous real quick, I'm not trying to be a wise ____ here just want everyone to stay safe and enjoy vaping. One bad calculation/error "could" be really bad .

Tbh I've vaped 120mg/ml on accident and it was just a crazy nic rush

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[maxstern33]

Why do you want to custom make your juices. I order my juices from Dropsmoke and it taste great!

 

[zoiDman]

Why do you want to custom make your juices. I order my juices from Dropsmoke and it taste great!

A Couple of Reasons:

1 - Much Cheaper.

2 - Ability to Fix/Tweak/Sweeten an existing e-liquid.

3 - Able to make Unlimited Flavor Combinations.

4 - Fun to Do.

 

[amoret]

You know, I am very impressed with my daughter's school in this respect. They are already teaching them algebraic concepts in 3rd grade (and were introducing it in 2nd).

She gets problems like 3 + [] = 7, so not an x, but at least a box which can easily be substituted for x later on. Also they spend a lot of time on word problems, which is fantastic for incorporating math into every day life. They were even graphing in kindergarten. Love it!

Oh, I also remembered that they are teaching equations in the sense that she'll get a problem like:

3 + 4 = 2 + []

This allows them to understand that it doesn't really matter if it's one number or more on each side of the equation. As long as they are *equal*.

This is such a great way to do the teaching. I think that the problem that a lot of us have with math actually goes back to the way we were taught arithmetic. Pure rote memorization with no information about the why is a bad way to teach anything. I still remember the aha moment when as an adult I found out that there were many ways to figure out the numbers in multiplication tables, and never had a problem with them again.

One of my projects, now that I'm disabled and have lots of time and not much that I'm able to do, is to find some good internet classes on the math topics that I always had problems with, and finally learn them as an area of thought instead of as spoonfed factoids. (Fairly late in life I got involved with database design and management, and was quite startled when I finally took some courses and found out that I understood and was using algorithms. If you had just asked if I could, I would certainly have said that I couldn't.)

 

[zoiDman]

Yeah... People Max-Out in Math if they are not taught the Fundamental Concepts of How/Why Algebra Works.

Memorization may get you thru a History Class, but it Doesn't get you very far when it comes to Math.

 

[peterforpats]

When you go to Calculate the mg/ml of Nicotine it’s going to be the Total Amount of Nicotine Divided by the Total Amount of Milliliters.

Let’s forget about making Exactly 2ml for the time being.

Just think about making some amount of 24mg/ml e-Liquid out of Both 50mg/ml and 18mg/ml e-Liquids.

So the Formula is…

Some 50mg Plus some 18mg Divided by the Total Amount of 50mg Plus the 18mg Equals 24mg.

Yuk… A word Problem. Everyone Hates Word Problems. Let’s convert it into a Math Problem.

Let: X = The Amount of 50mg e-Liquid and Y = The Amount of 18mg e-Liquid

So…

( (50X + 18Y)/(X + Y) ) = 24

Most people don’t Like to work in Two Variables X & Y. So why don’t we make One of the Variables something that is Easy to work with? How about Y = 1

Replacing Y with 1…

=> ( (50X + 18)/(X + 1) ) = 24

Throw a Little Algebra on it…

=> 50X + 18 = 24(X + 1)
=> 50X + 18 = 24X + 24

Collect up some Like Terms…

=> 50X -24X = 24 – 18
=> 26X = 6
=> X = 6/26
=> X = 3/13
=> X = .23

So when there is .23 ml of 50mg e-Liquid Added to 1 ml of 18mg e-Liquid the Result is 1.23 ml of 24 mg e-Liquid.

Cool. But you want to make Exactly 2ml. So we need to add More of both the 50mg and the 18mg to get to 2ml. But How Much More?

If I Divide 2 by 1.23 I get 2/1.23 = 1.626

So it sounds like I Need 1.626 Times more 50mg and 1.626 Times more 18mg to get me to 2ml

=> 1.626(.23) = .374ml of 50mg

And

=> 1.626(1) = 1.626ml of 18mg

Hence it sounds like if I Added .374ml of 50mg to 1.626ml of 18mg I would end up with 2ml of 25mg.

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I know you might be getting lost but Stay with me, this is the Important Part

Knowing how to make 2ml of 24mg is Great. But would it be Better to know how to make ANY amount of 24mg?

Once we found a Ratio of 50mg to 18mg why don’t we just Express it as a Percentage which could be used to Make any amount of ml?

Since we know that the Ratio is .23ml of 50mg to 1ml of 18mg for a Total of 1.23ml, let’s find the Ratio for 1ml

1ml / 1.23ml = .81

So if I made both the 50mg amount in the Ratio and the 18mg amount in the Ratio Smaller by .81 times, I would have a Ratio for 1ml

.81(.23ml) = .19ml of 50mg

And

.81(1ml) = .81ml of 18mg

So in 1ml of 24mg e-Liquid there is .19ml of 50mg and .81ml of 18mg e-Liquid.

Thus the Percentage for ANY amount of 24mg e-Liquid is: 19% of 50mg and 81% of 18mg

Always Double Check your Work!

.19(50) + .81(18) = 24.0 Good!

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You might want to print this out because you can use this Approach for Any mg e-Liquids.

You might also want to do the Math Yourself because I have been known to make some Pretty Bad Math errors First thing in the Mourning.

this is the reason i don't make my own juices. never wanted to think that hard for a vape. to some it may be easy, but it isn't for me. know what is easy? finding a few juices you love, buying them, and vaping away without a care in the world. thanks to all those wonderful juice makers out there. you saved me from doing and thinking about that.....

 

[zoiDman]

this is the reason i don't make my own juices. never wanted to think that hard for a vape. to some it may be easy, but it isn't for me. know what is easy? finding a few juices you love, buying them, and vaping away without a care in the world. thanks to all those wonderful juice makers out there. you saved me from doing and thinking about that.....

Don't let All this Math put you off to DIY.

Whereas I think Everyone should be able to do a mix with a Pencil and Paper, Many Can't, and use e-Liquid Calculators to "Help" them.

 

[ForeverDiving]

When I was in high school, math (algebra up to 2nd degree eq's, trig) plus basic physics and inorganic chemistry was mandatory. You didn't make it to college if you flunked that (unless you wanted to be a lawyer, and that was stigmatic) <LOL!>. Now they have "humanities" prep schooling for kids who cannot handle %s & a:b::c:x. When I hear kids say "why do I need math? there are calculators", I think of these examples. You can blow your face off by not being able to calculate some proportion.

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[fraychek]

Math was always my nemesis until I took a class in teaching math in elementary school when I was studying elementary education in college. Some time during the course I remarked that I wished I had been taught math that way. The dark cloud had been lifted. Now, my only question is: If it comes to pass that we have to buy 0 nic juice, what strength of nic do we need to buy and how do we know how much to add to our juice to get to the level we want?

 

[Fizzpop]

As a mathematician, I approve this post.

 

[WillyZee]

18mg bumped to 24 using 50mg?

simple ... use a calculator and input the 18 as 0mg with a final target of 6mg

Result is 26.4ml of 18mg + 3.6ml of 50mg = 30ml of 24mg

 

[zoiDman]

Math was always my nemesis until I took a class in teaching math in elementary school when I was studying elementary education in college. Some time during the course I remarked that I wished I had been taught math that way. The dark cloud had been lifted. ...

Sometimes when the Underlying Concepts are reveled, and All the Algebraic Steps are shown, that Cloud Isn't as Dark as it seems.