Adding Nic to no-nic liquid

[amiller36]

Ok so I have seen this question a time or two before, but everyone just says "use this calculator" or sends them to a link of a blog with a dude saying "use this calculator." This isn't working for me. I don't like the calculators, they confuse me.

Here is my problem. I DIY and have made some great 0mg flavors (most from recipes on this site) but now my buddy wants some of my flavors I have already made, but with nicotine. I didn't even have any, but he bought me some 100mg stuff online. So I have a bunch of 10ml bottles already made, I want to know how/how much to add nic to these already made bottles with as much ease as possible. I use 50/50 vg/pg base and add 10-16% flavor for most my recipes, if this helps.

Isn't there a SIMPLE equation to take the amount of base or total liquid and just add a drop or two of nic to strengthen it? Ideally he wants 12mg, but again... i'm doing simple since i dont care for nic.

Any help would be great! Thanks

 

[Red_Bird]

1.2 ml of 100 mg nic into that 10 mil bottle, with 5 mil of your zero nic juice will make the entire 10 mil bottle 12 mg.

The other 3.8 mil will be added flavorings, pg and vg.

 

[amiller36]

Ok so you are saying to open the bottle, put 1.2ml of 100mg nic to make 12mg/ml? So my bottle will have a total of 11.2ml of total fluid, right?

 

[Red_Bird]

I told u to add 1.2 mil of the 100 mg nicotine to your 5 mil of NO NIC juice.

This will total 6.2 mil

You need to add 3.8 mil (of which pg, vg and a bit more flavor) to make it a 10 mil bottle.

Maybe 1.5 mil more pg
Maybe 1.8 mil more vg
Maybe 0.5 mil more flavor

 

[Chornbro]

eJuice Me Up - Best eJuice Calculator

Thats the calculator I use. Plug in desired nic, desired pg/vg, flavor percentages and make-up (pg or vg), strength of your nic juice and make-up (pg or vg), how much juice you'd like to make... it will give you the amounts of each component to add (in ml). Even tells you how many drops of each. Of course, this requires that you tell it how many drops equals 1 ml (since it varies from dropper to dropper)

If that's too much work, and you're using 10ml bottle...

10-16% flavoring = 1 to 1.6ml of flavoring TOTAL (in whatever ratios you choose for your concoctions. For example, if one of your blends is half one flavor, half of another... you'd add .5-.8ml of each)
12% 100mg/ml juice = 1.2 ml (for 12mg)
72-78% pg/vg flavorless = 7.2-7.8 ml... OR, just fill the rest of the bottle with this blend, assuming you've already added the nic and flavoring.

The above will only work for a 10ml bottle. Making a 30ml bottle? Triple the ml figures. Making a 50ml bottle? Multiply by 5.

This may throw off your desired pg/vg balance. If you want a precise pg/vg calculation, I suggest the program I linked for you at the top. Using that program will require you to have your pg and vg separated, know whether your nic is pg/vg, and know the composition of your flavorings.

Hope that helped!

 

[LFC]

I get what you are saying Seagull, I usually order no nic juices (because I only like about 3-4 mg and nobody offers that) then add my own nic to get the level I like. You already have 10 ml bottles of the juice you have created and need to know how much 100 mg nic juice to add to make that already exisiting 10 ml into 12 mg juice. If that is right, it would actually be between 1.3 and 1.4 ml. 1.3 will give you 11.3 ml of 11.6 mg juice, 1.4ml would give you 11.4 ml of 12.4 mg juice.

 

[Chornbro]

I get what you are saying Seagull, I usually order no nic juices (because I only like about 3-4 mg and nobody offers that) then add my own nic to get the level I like. You already have 10 ml bottles of the juice you have created and need to know how much 100 mg nic juice to add to make that already exisiting 10 ml into 12 mg juice. If that is right, it would actually be between 1.3 and 1.4 ml. 1.3 will give you 11.3 ml of 11.6 mg juice, 1.4ml would give you 11.4 ml of 12.4 mg juice.

Ahh.. gotcha! Didn't quite follow that.

Keep in mind, just 'adding' nic will dilute the flavor of your juice. The method I shared with you is to recreate your juice with nic.

Good luck

 

[LFC]

Forgot to mention the flavor dilution, glad you caught that Chornbro.

Glad there is always someone covering my ...

 

[Chornbro]

Forgot to mention the flavor dilution, glad you caught that Chornbro.

Glad there is always someone covering my ...

Im on it! Team work. : )

 

[amiller36]

I get what you are saying Seagull, I usually order no nic juices (because I only like about 3-4 mg and nobody offers that) then add my own nic to get the level I like. You already have 10 ml bottles of the juice you have created and need to know how much 100 mg nic juice to add to make that already exisiting 10 ml into 12 mg juice. If that is right, it would actually be between 1.3 and 1.4 ml. 1.3 will give you 11.3 ml of 11.6 mg juice, 1.4ml would give you 11.4 ml of 12.4 mg juice.

YES!!! This is exactly what I am talking about, thank you so much. I knew the nic would dilute the flavors, but the reason I love this stuff is.... so what? If the flavor is TOO diluted ill just add a drop and try again. rinse and repeat. Exact science is over rated(for dumbies like me)

 

[LFC]

You are very welcome seagull, glad I could help.

 

[Hitmetwice]

If you are new to using nic. starting out working with the strong stuff may not be the safest for both you or your friend.
I'd recommend cutting it all down to at least a 24mg level then if you want to use up the 0mg juice you already have
it'll be easier. By just adding your normal flavour percentage to the 24mg nic. and diluting 50/50 with your premade 0nic you'll achieve your desired 12mg level.

OR...keep it simple...

You vape the zero yourself so why not keep that and just make new stuff for your friend. The calculations will be much easier with less room for errors. Just my advice, take it FWIW.

 

[amiller36]

OR...keep it simple...

You vape the zero yourself so why not keep that and just make new stuff for your friend. The calculations will be much easier with less room for errors. Just my advice, take it FWIW.

You make a good point. Our original idea was since I have so much juice already made, why not just add a bit of nic to it for him and not have to remix. I will still do as LFC suggested, but to mix from scratch for future batches, I guess it would be easier to add the nic in from the beggining. I guess I will have to use one of those horrible calculators to figgure out how to make my base with 12mg nic... The fun continues! Thank you all for the comments and teachings!

 

[LucentShadow]

If you think about the meaning of milligrams per milliliter, and plug in a few numbers for the nicotine portion, the math is fairly simple. Solve for total nicotine:

1.4 ml of 100mg/ml = 1.4 * 100mg = 140mg nicotine total

10ml of 0mg/ml = 0mg of nicotine

Add the ml and mg up:

11.4ml of liquid with 140mg of nicotine in it.

Convert it into mg/ml again:

140mg/11.4ml = 12.28mg/ml

As for equations - I've posted equations before, but that didn't seem to be well-liked...