Advice Needed - Pee Wee or Not?

[dham340]

Hi. Been lurking around here for a few weeks and now in bit of a quandary, maybe someone can advise...

First some background: First came across Smoke 51 in mall and bit without doing my research. Yes, over paid and a battery died on me quickly but the amount of vapor was amazing. Two big problems: carts were expensive and even if I wanted to pay the money, couldn't get them. Problem number 2: using the device just wasn't enough for me to stay off analogs (I would come to find out that was because I was using low nic carts).

So, after reading here and some other places, decided to get a 901 and some higher nic cartridges. This is working OK, but I miss the big vapor the 51 device (longtotem?) gave. I am not a big throat hit person - medium carts in the 901 work great for me there.

I'll continue to use the 901 (I've got enough stuff for it - lol - carts, juice, case, usb charger) but I want to address 2 issues: (1) more vapor and (2) ability to quickly get resupplies if I need it.

So I am looking at one of 2 options - getting a puresmoker pilot (although they our out of them today) or getting a pee wee. Both of which I think may address the vapor issue. The pilot seems to be all the rage right now but, the pee wee has one big advantage to me: its parts are interchangeable with the NPro, which, because I travel a lot, I can get carts right at several truck stops (including one down the street from me) in an emergency. So, if its 12 am on a friday night and I am out of carts or I'm off in Barstow, California and out, I can always drop a few bucks and keep going until the mail order gets to me.

So thats my quandary - any thoughts?

 

[ZambucaLu]

Whichever you choose, you're going to need juice because in the long run, the cart juice itself won't last long. So stocking up on juice ahead of time will be more cost effective for you in the end as opposed to buying the carts.

You are probably aware that the peewee needs to be both charged and carts refilled more than the 901, because of its size. If that appeals to you, then that's obviously a plus.

As far as vapor....I've never tried a 901 but I can say I get decent to great vapor with my penstyle...they are bigger than the 901....and are compatible with the njoy pen. So if you do need to pick up carts, those would be available too.

This is all up to you but most would not recommend the peewee just because of the inconvenience of the short battery charge and need for constant refilling the carts.

Good luck which ever way you go!

Lu

 

[GrimmGreen]

next to my smoke51 , my 901 produces a great amount of vapor. For what it's worth i have had my eye on the Pilot *Hybrid for a while now

 

[dham340]

Thanks for the feedback. The penStyle is an option I am considering, but one of the things I am thinking about is with a peeWee/NPro I can try to be a bit less conspicuous in public. My 901 (black with blue LED) is cool but screams out "look at me". I am thinking a peewee would be good for those times when I dont want to call too much attention.

Does anyone have any experience with them as a "second" device. I assume the carts can be refilled/topped with juice ? (I've got a sampler pack on the way and other bottles cola and marlboro)

 

[Terraphon]

To pee-wee, or not to pee-wee; That is the question.
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous toxins,
Or to take arms against carbon monoxide,
And by opposing end them? To vape: to smoke;
No more; and by vape to say we end
The coughing and the thousand carcinogens
That smoke is home to, 'tis a vaporization
Devoutly to be wish'd. To drip, to vape;
To vape: perchance to fog: ay, there's the rub;
For in that liquid from Cash what mist may come
When we have primer puffed this heating coil,
Must give us buzz: there's the respect
That makes calamity of such long draws

 

[dham340]

Awsome!

 

[shakey ceasefire]

.... I can get carts right at several truck stops (including one down the street from me) in an emergency. So, if its 12 am on a friday night and I am out of carts or I'm off in Barstow, California and ....out

You can get nPro carts at truckstops in Cali? Wow, I didn't know that.

The problem I have with my nPro are as follows:

A) the tiny little cup for the juice, it runs out too fast. doesn't hold very much juice at all. nPro carts are a rip off, and you get about 6 good puffs before they start to fade.

B) the flavor in the default carts is disgusting. Tastes like a 5 day old can of beer full of cigarette butts if you ask me.

C) Not much vapor or throat hit, once in a while, with fresh battery and cart you can get a good one, but you kill your batteries trying to get it.

My 2¢

 

[e-pipeman]

To pee-wee, or not to pee-wee; That is the question.
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous toxins,
Or to take arms against carbon monoxide,
And by opposing end them? To vape: to smoke;
No more; and by vape to say we end
The coughing and the thousand carcinogens
That smoke is home to, 'tis a vaporization
Devoutly to be wish'd. To drip, to vape;
To vape: perchance to fog: ay, there's the rub;
For in that liquid from Cash what mist may come
When we have primer puffed this heating coil,
Must give us buzz: there's the respect
That makes calamity of such long draws

Shakespeare had a pen style...

 

[CssReb]

I just got a pen style yesterday
9 hours on 1 battery and 1 cart. Awesome!

 

[Terraphon]

Shakespeare had a pen style...

True story.

 

[Cuando]

To pee-wee, or not to pee-wee; That is the question.
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous toxins,
Or to take arms against carbon monoxide,
And by opposing end them? To vape: to smoke;
No more; and by vape to say we end
The coughing and the thousand carcinogens
That smoke is home to, 'tis a vaporization
Devoutly to be wish'd. To drip, to vape;
To vape: perchance to fog: ay, there's the rub;
For in that liquid from Cash what mist may come
When we have primer puffed this heating coil,
Must give us buzz: there's the respect
That makes calamity of such long draws

Haha, that was great!

*bows*

 

[rsngfrce]

I just got the Pilot last week. So far the vapor is no where near my Eaze Magnum (same e-cig as Smoke51). I've seen recent posts from several others complaining of a lack of vapor from the Pilot... maybe the atomizer has to get worked in, but what is the point of having to work in a part that is considered disposable?

Unfortunately, the Eaze Magnum carts are somewhat painful to refill plus I haven't been able to do so without staining the carts and the covering on the outside of the carts developes lots of teeth marks making them look like crap. (Also, one of my batteries also died after less than a week).

So, if you are looking for Smoke51 vapor from a Pilot, I haven't achieved anything like that up to this point. However, I doubt the PeeWee would produce better vapor than the Pilot from what I have read.

 

[ill_dawg]

Re: more vapor from the 901

If all you want is the vapor, add glycerin. You can get it at wal-mart for less than a dollar. Just make sure it's the 99.5% or higher stuff. Either buy high nic liquid and cut it down to save cash (at the expense of flavor - it has a sort of sweet nothing flavor by itself) or just throw a drop in the cart with your normal liquid when you top up. You'll be smoking like a fog machine, and it makes the liquid a little thicker so you get less leakage. Don't swap out the 901, just kick it up with some glycerine.

More smoke, less leakage, and $$$ saved. This stuff just wins.

Just my .02

-=ADAM=-

 

[Cage]

To pee-wee, or not to pee-wee; That is the question.
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous toxins,
Or to take arms against carbon monoxide,
And by opposing end them? To vape: to smoke;
No more; and by vape to say we end
The coughing and the thousand carcinogens
That smoke is home to, 'tis a vaporization
Devoutly to be wish'd. To drip, to vape;
To vape: perchance to fog: ay, there's the rub;
For in that liquid from Cash what mist may come
When we have primer puffed this heating coil,
Must give us buzz: there's the respect
That makes calamity of such long draws

Wow Terraphon... impressive! I think Cash should keep your cola supply stocked in perpetuity for including him in that. LOL...

Alas... it is well known the Bard discreetly used a Penstyle.
He was oft heard to mutter when the muse inspired... uh, oh

 

[Terraphon]

I was going to do the whole soliloquy but I was tired, tanked on nyquil and had a belly full of Del Taco so I had to stop before my brain exploded.

Maybe I'll finish it someday

 

[snf]

Re: more vapor from the 901

If all you want is the vapor, add glycerin. You can get it at wal-mart for less than a dollar. Just make sure it's the 99.5% or higher stuff. Either buy high nic liquid and cut it down to save cash (at the expense of flavor - it has a sort of sweet nothing flavor by itself) or just throw a drop in the cart with your normal liquid when you top up. You'll be smoking like a fog machine, and it makes the liquid a little thicker so you get less leakage. Don't swap out the 901, just kick it up with some glycerine.

More smoke, less leakage, and $$$ saved. This stuff just wins.

Just my .02

-=ADAM=-

are you sure adding glycerin is ok to smoke?

 

[Terraphon]

are you sure adding glycerin is ok to smoke?

We're not sure ANY of this is safe to smoke.

Probably safer than smoking a proper cigarette, though.

 

[GrimmGreen]

just as an fyi to all , i purchased some glycerin from the good ol WalMart today. I added 2 drops to the cart in with my Riskee eJuice , M-O-N-S-T-E-R vapor , i'm assuming it cuts the nic down in my cart since the juice i have is the "fierce" 32mg stuff. It has no real taste to speak of

 

[yvilla]

are you sure adding glycerin is ok to smoke?

Glycerin, aka vegetable glycerin, aka VG, is what Johnson Creek uses as the base for their non-PG liquid. Those who are allergic to PG (some people are) use VG regularly.

 

[Terraphon]

just as an fyi to all , i purchased some glycerin from the good ol WalMart today. I added 2 drops to the cart in with my Riskee eJuice , M-O-N-S-T-E-R vapor , i'm assuming it cuts the nic down in my cart since the juice i have is the "fierce" 32mg stuff. It has no real taste to speak of

You're correct. If you get 36 and cut it 50/50, you're looking at 18. cut it like 10mil juice to 5mil glycerin and you've got 24, etc...

I'll be buying 36 from now on and cutting to 24 / 18.