the wicking is fine, no hotspots or anything. i did a 2/3 wrap with 30 gauge wire. i didnt check the ohms though. it seems like there isnt enough, i guess, energy running the through the wires. the initial firing of the wires was fine. everything heated up pretty quick and at the same time. but once i added liquid to it, it would burn slowly and after 2-3 seconds, i see juice get sucked up the wick and floods the chamber. i've never experienced that on my aga-t2 or my rsst. could be the juice? as a dripper it works great. fires up nicely and i get a good amout of vapor(using a diff juice).
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the wicking is fine, no hotspots or anything. i did a 2/3 wrap with 30 gauge wire. i didnt check the ohms though. it seems like there isnt enough, i guess, energy running the through the wires. the initial firing of the wires was fine. everything heated up pretty quick and at the same time. but once i added liquid to it, it would burn slowly and after 2-3 seconds, i see juice get sucked up the wick and floods the chamber. i've never experienced that on my aga-t2 or my rsst. could be the juice? as a dripper it works great. fires up nicely and i get a good amout of vapor(using a diff juice).
Are you tilting too much maybe?
Or, this is less likely but possible: if you leave the fill screw in, have too fat a wick (so that it covers up all the wick hole) and too small an airhole, then those 3 factors combined can flood your chamber. Im leaning towards just too much tilting though.
Or, this is less likely but possible: if you leave the fill screw in, have too fat a wick (so that it covers up all the wick hole) and too small an airhole, then those 3 factors combined can flood your chamber. Im leaning towards just too much tilting though.
im not sure. i'll check it out and i'll post an update this weekend. thanks!
Difference between exceptions and the rule guys. Every AGI has a leaky deck. Every AGI has a badly designed spring and post. That is a rubbish device as I said. These makers don't give a hoot about you and you want to sling them your money instead of supporting committed small businesses. How does one "prove" a superior product? Ckuffed if I know but all I can say is you can sure experience it. I have none of the issues you claim exist with genuine products. If something slips by QC with a genuine item, makers will rectify. So, if it does not work out of the box, as it should, you have confidence that it will be fixed. I'll go and enjoy my Rolex now while you guys figure out how to get your Mickey Mouse watches to work 
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.SteveW. You are my idol. Why should i, on my student's budget, pay 25 dollars for an AGI, when i can get a DID for over 4x that amount of money. Or i can scour the web an classifieds and find a "used" one, thats at least 2x the agi, cus that sounds awesome. Oh man, where have u been SteveW? The voice of reason! I never knew that atomizers that are sold for over a hundred bucks, sometimes way over, are actually better than sub-30 dollar atomizers. Fascinating. A rolex keeps better time than a seiko? Omgggg, no way! i thought i made a good decision for buying a seiko cus i cant get a rolex at this point in my life, but more simply put, according to you, i am a damn fool. Thanks for this moment of shocking self-awareness!!
**As i blow tasty, glorious, massive, yet somehow inferior clouds on my agi and sigelei 19**
**As i blow tasty, glorious, massive, yet somehow inferior clouds on my agi and sigelei 19**
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Difference between exceptions and the rule guys. Every AGI has a leaky deck. Every AGI has a badly designed spring and post. That is a rubbish device as I said. These makers don't give a hoot about you and you want to sling them your money instead of supporting committed small businesses. How does one "prove" a superior product? Ckuffed if I know but all I can say is you can sure experience it. I have none of the issues you claim exist with genuine products. If something slips by QC with a genuine item, makers will rectify. So, if it does not work out of the box, as it should, you have confidence that it will be fixed. I'll go and enjoy my Rolex now while you guys figure out how to get your Mickey Mouse watches to work
Make sure you learn how to tell time first huh buddy? I heard it can be difficult for some.
So because you "feel" that your device is superior it must be true? Go find whoever taught you logic and clock him square in the face; there is so much wrong with your line of reasoning i dont even know where to begin. Aristotle is rolling over in his grave right now.
If you have neither reasoning nor evidence, all youre really doing is stomping your feet asking for ice cream. Unless youre 4 years old, that doesnt work. Sorry you have to find out this way. Aw now, dont cry.
I dont care if the makers care about me. Its a free market: supply, meets demand, transaction complete. What, you wanna pay an extra $100 so he ll listen to you sobbing over skype on those lonely Saturday nights? Its economics, its mathematics and logic. Im paying money for a product i deem worth the price; im not paying for the manufacturers affection.
Ohhh Stevie boy back when i started studying Econ there was this phenomenon called "Tragedy of the snob". Google it. I was laughing my .... off at the idea that it could ever be true. I guess the jokes on me huh?
Part of the charm of the RBA for me is actually building, rebuilding, and tinkering. Making modifications that cost me pennies to have my atty work like a "superior" atty gives me a great sense of accomplishment. I enjoy it
Hey dude fellow Seiko wearer here, just wanted to say hey
Just got my first automatic watch today! Black Seiko snk809 for 65 bucks. Love it!!! Personally like it more than the $2500 movado that my fiance got me, but cant let her know that
Just got my first automatic watch today! Black Seiko snk809 for 65 bucks. Love it!!! Personally like it more than the $2500 movado that my fiance got me, but cant let her know that
Yeah i got my first Seiko dress watch when i was 17, just $50 and got tons of compliments from everyone. Those Japanese folks seriously know what theyre doing.
Yea i got at least 10 watches gifted to me through the years, but all were quartz, never really wore any of them, dunno why, and sure a lot of them cost more than 65 bucks. I finally got myself a watch ill wear every day and not care too much if i ding it up. Kinda like my agi, functions like the higher end attys after i made my mods to it, and dont care if i destroy it somehow.
What a joke . . . how the **** would you know if you never spend more than $30 on an atty?
Well... you know... because he "feels" that way... Isnt that your logic Stevie?
Seriously bro, unless you have something based on facts to add here, whatever you say next is just gonna be embarrassing yourself. Not that i wouldnt enjoy seeing that, just thought id give you a heads up.
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oh right, i forgot that those >$30 attys have magical air holes that whip up air faster than you can breathe, fairy dust sprinkled in the wick holes, silver covering the positive and negative posts to ensure 100% conductivity, love infused in the top cap, a tank made out of a hollowed-out diamond, an included wick that has a microchip in it to suck up juice at inhuman rates, and a coil provided from santa claus's kanthal beard.
how stupid of me to think that a genesis vape is based simply on wrapping a coil from a positive to negative terminal, is dependant on your wick and coil technique, your juice quality, and the mod that is providing the power. i foolishly forgot that the same resistance coil on the same mod will glow brighter and stronger on your high end atty
how stupid of me to think that a genesis vape is based simply on wrapping a coil from a positive to negative terminal, is dependant on your wick and coil technique, your juice quality, and the mod that is providing the power. i foolishly forgot that the same resistance coil on the same mod will glow brighter and stronger on your high end atty
i mean, you can be the judge Steve. I will shut up if you are in fact producing much more vapor, getting more flavor and joy out of your vape than i am out of mine.
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all are CLONES and knock offs in the video. each mod/atty setup is less than 50 bucks. the best set-up i have is the kts and the z-atty clone which one can get for 35 dollars total on the right site. but i don't know what i'm missing, clearly!
Just Vaping over Original Track - YouTube
all are CLONES and knock offs in the video. each mod/atty setup is less than 50 bucks. the best set-up i have is the kts and the z-atty clone which one can get for 35 dollars total on the right site. but i don't know what i'm missing, clearly!
Well, I just had to chime in here. I can see both sides of this argument, as I've been there either way... I started with a Phoenix dripper and AGA-T2 as my first rebuildables. The Phoenix was easy to rebuild, but the AGA was a major pain in the ... because of the design. It can be set up right, but it can also cause alot of headaches... I ended up modding it in a couple ways, including drilling out the wick hole to accommodate a fc-2000 ceramic wick, and drilled the air hole to 1/16". From there I bought an AGA-S, IGO-L, and KTS mod. They all worked well enough for me, but I was still looking for more.
I purchased an RSST and Diablo hybrid within a couple days of each other. The RSST performs quite well and is easy to set up on, but the center post is not very conductive, and I had juice slowly leaking down the center post to the 510 connection. To rectify that, I procured a silver plated center post, and used an insulator from an AGA-T2 and another washer to seal the center post. Now it works pretty decent. On the other hand, my Diablo hybrid arrived in my mailbox with a perfect polished finish, and was just begging to be set up. There was nothing I had to do other than to roll a wick and wrap a coil. The setup was the easiest I'd experienced at that point, and not to mention the build quality, which is excellent.
My latest acquisitions have been an Arrow atty, Kayfun 3.1, and GP Paps LUX. All of these products have exuded quality of build and functionality. To me, the greatest difference between Chinese made vape gear and higher end gear, is the quality of materials, machining, and design. The Chinese are obviously just copying well known designs, and not very well at that TBH. Higher end devices and attys are designed by people who actually use them. This gives them a distinct edge in producing a product that will require less maintenance, modification, and just provide an all around relatively hassle free experience. They also stand behind their products.. so if I ever have a problem with my PAPS for example, I can just PM perseas on this very forum, and get customer support! There are no Chinese products that come with a warranty, and all are sold as is.
Don't know what more I can add.. If you can't afford good quality gear, you can still get almost the same vape out of it. Personally though, I don't mind spending a bit more to get well made products that were designed by vapers, and made for vapers. To me, it's just less hassle at the end of the day!
I purchased an RSST and Diablo hybrid within a couple days of each other. The RSST performs quite well and is easy to set up on, but the center post is not very conductive, and I had juice slowly leaking down the center post to the 510 connection. To rectify that, I procured a silver plated center post, and used an insulator from an AGA-T2 and another washer to seal the center post. Now it works pretty decent. On the other hand, my Diablo hybrid arrived in my mailbox with a perfect polished finish, and was just begging to be set up. There was nothing I had to do other than to roll a wick and wrap a coil. The setup was the easiest I'd experienced at that point, and not to mention the build quality, which is excellent.
My latest acquisitions have been an Arrow atty, Kayfun 3.1, and GP Paps LUX. All of these products have exuded quality of build and functionality. To me, the greatest difference between Chinese made vape gear and higher end gear, is the quality of materials, machining, and design. The Chinese are obviously just copying well known designs, and not very well at that TBH. Higher end devices and attys are designed by people who actually use them. This gives them a distinct edge in producing a product that will require less maintenance, modification, and just provide an all around relatively hassle free experience. They also stand behind their products.. so if I ever have a problem with my PAPS for example, I can just PM perseas on this very forum, and get customer support! There are no Chinese products that come with a warranty, and all are sold as is.
Don't know what more I can add.. If you can't afford good quality gear, you can still get almost the same vape out of it. Personally though, I don't mind spending a bit more to get well made products that were designed by vapers, and made for vapers. To me, it's just less hassle at the end of the day!
What you said have been said many times before and i agree. As you can clearly see this is not so much a debate or discussion as it is feeding to troll to dance. Just good entertainment.
Steve? Steeeeeeviieee? Come do something funny. Humor me.
Steve? Steeeeeeviieee? Come do something funny. Humor me.
Well yes, I agree that SteveW is obviously not able to articulate himself in a way that gets his point across effectively. But really, you're acting as a troll of a troll, which is no better in my eyes.
Best way to deal with a troll is to ignore him. Most entertaining way however...
Hey im not here to behave myself. Im here for some humor.
I think I am getting my point across just fine. Codyjo, Your long post basically says exactly what I have said in fewer words. The only thing that you did not include is the impact the clone market has on the businesses of the makers whose work is being blatantly stolen.
The quality difference is really is obvious when you have tried the gear from either end of the spectrum. Take the DID as just one example. I have lived with this little beauty for a long time now and absolutely love it. Often copied but never equaled I think this simple device is one of the best little gennys ever made. A member here, DSmooch, described it in terms of quality as something you might find rattling around in the bottom of your grandfather's drawer. I don't know of better words to descibe it. It just has that beautiful precision feel about it. I salute MMV on an outstanding achievement, an obvious interest in vaping, and a commitment to quality and customer support. The perfectly aligned screw cap allows for gentle removal and perfect positioning. With this piece there is no fuss, spare parts on tap, simple functionality and reliability. It is a perfect yardstick to put up against any of the chinese knock-off DUDs out there.
Only grubby bottom feeders want to support the rip-off artists and use the excuse of cost as justification. It is false economy anyway when they break and you can't get spares so you have to buy another one. Or you burn fuel driving around to hardware stores looking for bits to make them work. Perhaps their time is worth nothing because these folk obviously don't value the time they spend piddling about with these dodgy devices very highly. My time, unlike theirs apparently, is worth money. They are the same people that have computers full of pirated music and videos and care nothing for the money and effort that it takes to bring a new design to the market. As I said earlier, if it continues unabated, there will be nothing left but cheap garbage.
The quality difference is really is obvious when you have tried the gear from either end of the spectrum. Take the DID as just one example. I have lived with this little beauty for a long time now and absolutely love it. Often copied but never equaled I think this simple device is one of the best little gennys ever made. A member here, DSmooch, described it in terms of quality as something you might find rattling around in the bottom of your grandfather's drawer. I don't know of better words to descibe it. It just has that beautiful precision feel about it. I salute MMV on an outstanding achievement, an obvious interest in vaping, and a commitment to quality and customer support. The perfectly aligned screw cap allows for gentle removal and perfect positioning. With this piece there is no fuss, spare parts on tap, simple functionality and reliability. It is a perfect yardstick to put up against any of the chinese knock-off DUDs out there.
Only grubby bottom feeders want to support the rip-off artists and use the excuse of cost as justification. It is false economy anyway when they break and you can't get spares so you have to buy another one. Or you burn fuel driving around to hardware stores looking for bits to make them work. Perhaps their time is worth nothing because these folk obviously don't value the time they spend piddling about with these dodgy devices very highly. My time, unlike theirs apparently, is worth money. They are the same people that have computers full of pirated music and videos and care nothing for the money and effort that it takes to bring a new design to the market. As I said earlier, if it continues unabated, there will be nothing left but cheap garbage.
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