I just received my first carto tank, I filled a couple boge cartos with juice and now it seems that the carto keeps flooding and juice begins leaking out of the bottom connection, apparently where the carto sticks out at the bottom. I primed and filled it then allowed it to sit upright for an hour or so and no leaks or anything, and as soon as I began to vape on it that's when all hell breaks loose. What do the experts think?
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Are you sure the locking ring is properly secured? There should be no movement in it at all
I don't know how much tighter I can get it, after the cartomizer is in there is really no way to secure it any tighter, I believe I have it as tight as I can get it. I've been putting the drip tip on and pushing and turning the locking ring at the same time to try and make the connection as best as I can. Someone else suggested to take the fill screw out when I'm putting everything together to make sure I'm not getting a vacuum stuck in the tank and messing things up. It does seem that the carto is flooding after a few decent vapes on it.
To unflood : hoping that you haven't filled the tank to the brim, and that you can turn the tank upside down and have the two holes in the bottom of the centre post clear of the e-liquid and in air. If not, drain a bit out of the tank with a syringe. (If you skip making sure those holes aren't submerged you will never ever get the flood cleared)
1. Turn the AGR+ upside down.
2, Put the drip-tip to your lips (tank still upside down) and blow.
3. The flood will clear, and excess liquid will come out of the air-holes between the tank base and the locking ring. You'll need a tissue round that bit.
4. Repeat until the liquid clears.
5. Turn the AGR+ the right way up. Take a primer draw (unpowered). If it gurgles, repeat this entire process.
To avoid this happening in future, filling the tank properly is key. Only use the fill-hole. use a real needle filler or syringe and be mindful that if you block the entire fill-hole, air will be unable to escape and the carto will flood again. Fill slowly.
Another angle to approach is to be mindful of how many holes you punch in the cartomizer and how deep the holes you make are. (ignore me if you use pre-punched or slotted cartos). If you punch your own, stop turning as soon as you hear the carto pop. Use two holes.
Another consideration is that if you punch the cartomizer too close to it's 510 connector (the battery end) it deforms the circular shape of the carto. If you did it too low, you break the seal between the eliquid in the tank and the 510 connection, because the deformation might be causing the O-ring located at the bottom section to be unable to make a seal. To avoid this, when assembling, screw the centre post into the bottom section, insert an unpunched cartomizer and screw the locking ring on. With a marker pen or sharpie, mark through the center post holes. Take the cartomizer out and punch your holes where the pen marks are.
Another thing to consider is to make sure that all the tank sections are screwed down tight, and that more critically the O-rings are there. The tank works on air pressure to constantly feed the carto with eliquid. If you remove the top-cap to refill you break the air-pressure system and your cartomizer will flood (unless you replace the top cap REAL slow and careful with the fill-hole scew out). If you fill wth the fill-hole but don't let the air escape the air pressure will force eliquid into the cartomizer which will flood it.
Hope it helps
1. Turn the AGR+ upside down.
2, Put the drip-tip to your lips (tank still upside down) and blow.
3. The flood will clear, and excess liquid will come out of the air-holes between the tank base and the locking ring. You'll need a tissue round that bit.
4. Repeat until the liquid clears.
5. Turn the AGR+ the right way up. Take a primer draw (unpowered). If it gurgles, repeat this entire process.
To avoid this happening in future, filling the tank properly is key. Only use the fill-hole. use a real needle filler or syringe and be mindful that if you block the entire fill-hole, air will be unable to escape and the carto will flood again. Fill slowly.
Another angle to approach is to be mindful of how many holes you punch in the cartomizer and how deep the holes you make are. (ignore me if you use pre-punched or slotted cartos). If you punch your own, stop turning as soon as you hear the carto pop. Use two holes.
Another consideration is that if you punch the cartomizer too close to it's 510 connector (the battery end) it deforms the circular shape of the carto. If you did it too low, you break the seal between the eliquid in the tank and the 510 connection, because the deformation might be causing the O-ring located at the bottom section to be unable to make a seal. To avoid this, when assembling, screw the centre post into the bottom section, insert an unpunched cartomizer and screw the locking ring on. With a marker pen or sharpie, mark through the center post holes. Take the cartomizer out and punch your holes where the pen marks are.
Another thing to consider is to make sure that all the tank sections are screwed down tight, and that more critically the O-rings are there. The tank works on air pressure to constantly feed the carto with eliquid. If you remove the top-cap to refill you break the air-pressure system and your cartomizer will flood (unless you replace the top cap REAL slow and careful with the fill-hole scew out). If you fill wth the fill-hole but don't let the air escape the air pressure will force eliquid into the cartomizer which will flood it.
Hope it helps
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If you over-tighten stuff you risk causing the O-rings to be pushed out of place, making a bad seal. Check the O-rings aren't damaged the next time you take the AGR+ apart
With cartotanks which use a fill hole, and the AGR in particular, this is KEY.
Cartotanks work on the principle of negative pressure within the tank to properly fill the cartomizer. Upset this pressure, and the carto will flood. The issue with filling a tank through the fill hole is if the needle or juice filling device blocks off the hole entirely, the air in the tank has no where to escape to equalize the pressure as juice is added. The increased air pressure forces too much juice into the carto and causes it to flood.
Use a finer-size needle which will allow the air pressure to equalize as you add liquid. PBusardo discovered this tip when he reviewed the AGR tank.
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The same thing can happen if one removes the top cap entirely to add liquid to the tank. When you replace the top cap, too much pressure within the tank causes too much juice to enter the carto, again flooding it. Tanks should only be filled with both caps on the tank, filled through the top cap's hole with the cartomizer pulled halfway down the bottom cap.
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Alright gave it another try again today with the last of my cuppa jolt from rocketfuelvapes, and I must say I think I did a good job this time, I've been vaping on it for a while now and its not making a mess all over the place like the other day. I have taken it off the battery a couple times just to check on things and maybe a coule small drips at the beginning but for now it seems to be perfect, hasn't flooded yet but what do I know this is my first time, seems to be pulling and producing good clouds of vapor, I put the tank together this time with the fill screw removed and filled very slowly, i'm excited I semi figured it out.
Although I did find out where the drips were coming from and that was out of the connector on the bottom of the cartomizer, I suspect I must have primed the carto too much? Would that be a safe assumption? I used a syringe needle and shook the carto like a thermometer to get the juice down lower and eventually it started coming out of the pre punched holes, is that when I'm supposed to stop and know the carto is filled and expect a bit of leakage out of the connector at that time?
I also occasionally see a couple little air bubbles come through the tank after I take a vape, and wondered if this was what was supposed to happen?
And I don't see what the problem is with the draw, I think that it draws just fine but this is also my first tank system, maybe I'll eventually file the air passages out a little but right now I think they are great and I'm just happy I don't need stock in a paper towel company to use this thing.
Does it matter if I set this tank on it's side or does the idea of there being a partial vacuum inside the tank make it safe to put it any which way?
Thanks for the help and sorry for the long post with so many questions.
Although I did find out where the drips were coming from and that was out of the connector on the bottom of the cartomizer, I suspect I must have primed the carto too much? Would that be a safe assumption? I used a syringe needle and shook the carto like a thermometer to get the juice down lower and eventually it started coming out of the pre punched holes, is that when I'm supposed to stop and know the carto is filled and expect a bit of leakage out of the connector at that time?
I also occasionally see a couple little air bubbles come through the tank after I take a vape, and wondered if this was what was supposed to happen?
And I don't see what the problem is with the draw, I think that it draws just fine but this is also my first tank system, maybe I'll eventually file the air passages out a little but right now I think they are great and I'm just happy I don't need stock in a paper towel company to use this thing.
Does it matter if I set this tank on it's side or does the idea of there being a partial vacuum inside the tank make it safe to put it any which way?
Thanks for the help and sorry for the long post with so many questions.
Yes, when you see eliquid start to come out of those punched holes, it's pretty full.
That's normal, it's just the air pressure equalising.
Mine is always on it's side, escpecially when I'm not using it and just put it a carry case, and it never leaks.
Thanks jhelliwell you're help is appreciated, if I have more issues I'll be sure to post
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