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This is interesting. Wlad is definitely not the type to replicate a different vendors juice. He may use it as an inspiration to create something he believes people will find satisfying.

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I'm almost positive it's just a false rumor that Ahlusion is going to offer an njoy King flavor clone. For one, they don't offer any synthetic tobaccos, all are NETs. And two, to suddenly offer one based on a disposable's flavor would be very odd. It's not very unique, the taste is pretty similar to other pre-filled cartos and disposables with Chinese liquids labeled "Tobacco", "Cowboy", or "USA mix". I've see comparisons to Hangsen, Janty, and Dekang. What seperates it from others is the very high nicotine impact at 45mg, which gives it more of a cig feel, and is an amount I can't see Ahlusion offering, with good reason.

For this to be true it would be Ahlusions first synthetic tobacco, firt juice clone, first attempt at a generic cigarette flavor, first 45mg nic. None of that fits in to what they're doing.

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How long does it take you guys to get your orders from Alhusion? I ordered over a month ago and still hasn't even shipped yet.
I ordered from the AIV the same day and have already received and smoked through all my juice and they are the guys who are suppose to take the longest. I dont think I will order from them again if this is how long it takes.
 

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I'm almost positive it's just a false rumor that Ahlusion is going to offer an Njoy King flavor clone. For one, they don't offer any synthetic tobaccos, all are NETs. And two, to suddenly offer one based on a disposable's flavor would be very odd. It's not very unique, the taste is pretty similar to other pre-filled cartos and disposables with Chinese liquids labeled "Tobacco", "Cowboy", or "USA mix". I've see comparisons to Hangsen, Janty, and Dekang. What seperates it from others is the very high nicotine impact at 45mg, which gives it more of a cig feel, and is an amount I can't see Ahlusion offering, with good reason.

For this to be true it would be Ahlusions first synthetic tobacco, firt juice clone, first attempt at a generic cigarette flavor, first 45mg nic. None of that fits in to what they're doing.

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This +1.

I used the Njoy King menthol (as well as all the usual disposable suspects) when I was getting into vaping. Hands down it's the best
disposable. I owe my present non-smoking Happy Vaper state partly to it having been available when I was forced to abandon my
3 PAD habit - but knowing Wlad and A+ I'd be extremely surprised if he wanted to imitate their "flavor" in an Ahlusion liquid.

What sets Njoy King apart from the other disposables is the high nic and accompanying TH. The underlying flavors are not particularly
unique. That's not to say they are bad- the menthol is clean, non-offensive and didn't make me feel like I just sucked on a weird old
mint. NjK satisfied all my needs for the hand-mouth-lung sensations of smoking without making me die or need an oxygen tank. I finally
didn't miss analogs, which for a 40 year smoker was huge. I would surely still be using them if their high cost (the same or more as the
equivalent in premium brand cigarettes here) hadn't led me to search the interwebz for options.

I mean no disrespect to NjK- but their flavors can be purchased at a bazillion places only with a lower percentage of nic. I'd bet my
husband's paycheck that any moderately competent diyer (including myself) could come very close to replicating them in their kitchen
if they wanted to. Comparing Ahlusion to NjK is almost silly- it's apples and oranges, two different types of experiences. The idea of
Wlad adding a 45 mg Hangsen juice to his menu makes me want to giggle..it would be like Morimoto putting a Big Mac on his.
 
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This +1.

I used the Njoy King menthol (as well as all the usual disposable suspects) when I was getting into vaping. Hands down it's the best
disposable. I owe my present non-smoking Happy Vaper state partly to it having been available when I was forced to abandon my
3 PAD habit - but knowing Wlad and A+ I'd be extremely surprised if he wanted to imitate their "flavor" in an Ahlusion liquid.

What sets Njoy King apart from the other disposables is the high nic and accompanying TH. The underlying flavors are not particularly
unique. That's not to say they are bad- the menthol is clean, non-offensive and didn't make me feel like I just sucked on a weird old
mint. NjK satisfied all my needs for the hand-mouth-lung sensations of smoking without making me die or need an oxygen tank. I finally
didn't miss analogs, which for a 40 year smoker was huge. I would surely still be using them if their high cost (the same or more as the
equivalent in premium brand cigarettes here) hadn't led me to search the interwebz for options.

I mean no disrespect to NjK- but their flavors can be purchased at a bazillion places only with a lower percentage of nic. I'd bet my
husband's paycheck that any moderately competent diyer (including myself) could come very close to replicating them in their kitchen
if they wanted to. Comparing Ahlusion to NjK is almost silly- it's apples and oranges, two different types of experiences. The idea of
Wlad adding a 45 mg Hangsen juice to his menu makes me want to giggle..it would be like Morimoto putting a Big Mac on his.

I have tried many tobacco flavors and none come close to the NjK flavor. Do you have any personal experiences?
 

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I mean no disrespect to NjK- but their flavors can be purchased at a bazillion places only with a lower percentage of nic. I'd bet my
husband's paycheck that any moderately competent diyer (including myself) could come very close to replicating them in their kitchen
if they wanted to. Comparing Ahlusion to NjK is almost silly- it's apples and oranges, two different types of experiences. The idea of
Wlad adding a 45 mg Hangsen juice to his menu makes me want to giggle..it would be like Morimoto putting a Big Mac on his.

Exactly what I think too. The only thing I found interesting was how close it mimics a cig in look and feel. They nailed how to make a disposable just like a smoke. Flavor-wise was pretty close to what I expected, the same "tobacco" flavor I've had before in prefills, which I don't care for, just a lot more nic impact. To reproduce it buy some Hangsen and up the nic, a lot. I personally have no interest in 45mg nic vaping or that flavor. It's all nic flavor and kick with that tang of Chinese tobacco juices.

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I have tried many tobacco flavors and none come close to the NjK flavor. Do you have any personal experiences?

I never cared for the taste of tobacco- analogs for me were about getting nicotine and throat hit, not the pleasant taste. I smoked Kool 100s and then Newport Light 100s. The Njoy King Menthols feel very much like the Kools- cold and very strong thanks to the 45 mg. As a new vaper with a couple of vv devices I bought a bunch of menthol juices since that was what my analogs were- but I also bought a ton of small bottles of non-tobacco flavors because so many people here advised me that it was going to be very different with a pv. They were right. I don't want to vape cigarette flavor, though I do like a light touch of menthol with some fruits.

I think DeKang or Halo's menthol flavors are similar to Njoy's- but it's just not going to taste the same with half or less of the nic, so Diy would be the way to go if you really wanted the same experience. I chain vape at 9 volt on Zmaxes so 45 mg would be waaay higher than I'd go. I can't imagine wanting to taste cigarettes in my vape when I can have things that are so much more pleasant and still have the TH, but to each their own.

I have a lot of experience with non-menthol tobacco vapes. My husband loves a strong tobacco, sometimes likes cigars, pipes, unfiltered cigarettes (yuck!) so I went on a mission to find a liquid that would turn him into a vaper. I followed threads, read reviews, did a ton of research about Nets etc while vaping churro and mimosa. I bought the top choices from the most popular and well regarded tobacco-type vendors. Some are very good, a few are amazing- if you like the taste of tobacco. None of the good ones taste like a 45 mg Njoy King though. Imo the Njoy King tastes very much like a real American name brand cigarette, which doesn't have much to do with good tobacco. I was talking to a friend who started with the NjK Golds and he shares my opinion that DIY with the Chinese flavors and your own high strength nic would be just like the NjK. His taste has evolved like mine did but in a different direction, and he's all about aromatic tobaccos and RY4 now.

If you're buying juice the closest would probably be DeKang or something similar etc..maybe Halo? I don't think anyone will mix at 45 mg for you. :( Ahlusion, HHV, and the other premium juice chefs aren't likely to have anything that tastes like an NjK. Njoy uses chinese flavors for sure but you just aren't going to get the same taste without the high nic. Have you tried the lower nic Njoys? They don't taste nearly as good, but they're the same flavors. The only difference is the nic strength.
 

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The NjK Gold has 30mg, so its strong but not over the top strong. I will definitely try DeKang tobacco because that is the top recommended to taste closest to the NjK. Thank you!

Another thing you may want to try is some 36mg unflavored. Never had unflavored myself, but have heard from quite a few if you get a good quality nic it nails the taste of a light cig, though stronger of course with the high nic. Makes sense to me, American cigs have very little actual tobacco flavor like pipe tobacco or cigars. It's mainly the nic and combustion of paper and bland tobacco. Any added flavoring like synthetic tobacco will actually take it further from what we've smoked for years. It won't totally mimic the sensation of burning material of course, but will get closer than a flavored juice in taste. A tiny bit of Tobacco Absolute could add some ashiness.

Me, I'll take a good pipe or cigar NET anyday, but many want as close to an American cig as possible.

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Some people on the eRoll thread who wish to closely mimic smoking cigarettes with vaping seem pleased with WordUp juices. They offer 48 mg. strength but indicate that it should be used for mixing only rather than vaping directly. I've not tried WordUp juices but you might want to ask on the eRoll thread if you have any questions.

I just got an NJOY 30 mg. Gold to try. I strongly agree with the other posters that that the flavor would not be something that one would ever expect to find on the Ahlusion juice menu.
 

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Was hoping I could order for the first time today. Looks like it will be Monday, if I'm lucky. I'm going to try their house blend, smokin' cherries, pineapple upside down cake, peachy criminal, gold rising and zing (to cleanse my palate). Can anyone give me their opinions on these flavors, please?

P.S. I'm using an eGo C Twist VV battery with a Smoktech Lock DCT and their Dual Coil cartomizers. Do you think I can still vape the 50/50 blends with this rig? Do I need to get a clearomizer? Thanks!
 
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Was hoping I could order for the first time today. Looks like it will be Monday, if I'm lucky. I'm going to try their house blend, smokin' cherries, pineapple upside down cake, peachy criminal, gold rising and zing (to cleanse my palate). Can anyone give me their opinions on these flavors, please?

P.S. I'm using an eGo C Twist VV battery with a Smoktech Lock DCT and their Dual Coil cartomizers. Do you think I can still vape the 50/50 blends with this rig? Do I need to get a clearomizer? Thanks!

50/50 will work fine with your cartomizers. Smokin' Cherries will be the only one that's problematic. Like the entire aromatic line, this juice isn't recommended for carto/tanks. It'll clog up much faster than the other juices. It's wonderful for dripping, but if you need to take it with you then a clearomizer is a decent solution.

You have a nice selection there. You should be happy with all of them, depending on what you like. Just remember to give the juices a long steep, except for Smokin' Cherries which will be good to go when you get it.
 

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Was hoping I could order for the first time today. Looks like it will be Monday, if I'm lucky. I'm going to try their house blend, smokin' cherries, pineapple upside down cake, peachy criminal, gold rising and zing (to cleanse my palate). Can anyone give me their opinions on these flavors, please?

P.S. I'm using an eGo C Twist VV battery with a Smoktech Lock DCT and their Dual Coil cartomizers. Do you think I can still vape the 50/50 blends with this rig? Do I need to get a clearomizer? Thanks!

Sorry didn't see your earlier post until just now. The only one of these I have had is House Blend. It reminds of my late great uncles after dinner cigars. For me, would go good with an after dinner port/brandy. It has a good weight and fits more of a cigar profile than a cigarette. It changes over time as do most of the A+ juices but really hit the sweet spot after about three weeks.

I recommend Smooth Criminal as a good tob juice to try. Most seem to like it.
Current favs-
Sleighride; Smooth Criminal, lemon lime breeze, Boba tea with Coffee, JG Blend, melon-berry frost, W&A sasparilla, Grapvine

No don't get a clearo. They will work but mute the flavor some. You should be okay but remember, Ahlusion juices generally vape best in the 3.7 and slightly higher voltage ranges.
I get anything baked or fruity at 50/50 and mostly stay at 30/70pg on the tobs. Haven't had any of the aromatics so Smoking Cherries is an unknown for me. The juices generally vape very clean and are not atty killers.
Good luck with the juices. Dont forget to shake and steep.

And yes, RPAD posted while I was typing this essay..... Howdy!
 
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50/50 will work fine with your cartomizers. Smokin' Cherries will be the only one that's problematic. Like the entire aromatic line, this juice isn't recommended for carto/tanks. It'll clog up much faster than the other juices. It's wonderful for dripping, but if you need to take it with you then a clearomizer is a decent solution.

You have a nice selection there. You should be happy with all of them, depending on what you like. Just remember to give the juices a long steep, except for Smokin' Cherries which will be good to go when you get it.

Yep, what he said. There's a gal here on ECF that uses dual-coil cartomizers too, I think Smoktek ones, that has had pretty good luck using darker NETs in them. I tried BGB once in a single-coil Boge once and it thrashed it, no experience with other cartos though.

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